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mineistaken 07-21-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreweb (Post 19726230)
Everything is great about him! He is one of the best bodybuilders in the world and he is on 3 place in europe in the history of bodybuilding after Arnold and Dorian Yates! I admire him a lot because I realy know how hard is to build that body maybe for the most of you he is just a freak but for an amateur bodybuilder like me he is just great!
Cheers! :winkwink:

Nobody argues that its hard to build like him, but also it does not change the fact that he is a freak mutant.

PornDude 07-21-2013 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19726323)
i hope you don't believe that he achieved that just with hard work and rice with chicken breast...

He probably did not. But he does most likely train 8 times weekly like a robot when you are typing useless messages like this.

MaDalton 07-21-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by PikaPoka (Post 19726342)
He probably did not. But he does most likely train 8 times weekly like a robot when you are typing useless messages like this.

training like a robot while injecting steroids to look like a blown up mutant...

nah, i rather stick to useless messages.

Robbie 07-21-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19726345)
training like a robot while injecting steroids to look like a blown up mutant...

nah, i rather stick to useless messages.

It's a misconception that bodybuilders using steroids aren't working their asses off.
You could take every steroid he is taking and unless you followed his strict diet and workout regimen you would just get really, really fat.

Pro Bodybuilders make a lot of money off of endorsements by winning contests. It's a science for Mr. Olympia IFBB competitors.
All they do is eat, workout, and sleep (sleep is when your muscles actually rebuild and grow).

I used to read Muscle And Fitness a lot when I first started getting into shape. And the pro bodybuilders day is very, very strict. Steroids won't do anything except help them rebuild muscle faster so there is less "downtime" for the next workout.

A guy like that will mostly sleep and eat. They set alarm clocks and keep their pre-prepared chicken or fish and rice meals in their bedrooms. They get woke up every 2 hours to eat.

It takes a lot of protein and calories to achieve that kind of muscle mass...and it's a full time job for them.

Of course people just think it's as easy as taking steroids and lifting some weights. But it's much, much more than that. They have entire teams that are measuring meals, protein, calories, hours of sleep, water retention and of course almost daily blood draws to be tested for any liver or kidney damage.

There is a lot of money at stake in pro bodybuilding.

mineistaken 07-21-2013 03:08 PM

Robbie, you got it wrong. He was not saying that they did not work hard. He actually said/agreed that they are "working like robots".

Robbie 07-21-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19726363)
Robbie, you got it wrong. He was not saying that they did not work hard. He actually said/agreed that they are "working like robots".

We all work like robots if you think about it.

I was just pointing out that steroids alone won't do anything and that bodybuilding (just like anything in life) takes 100% dedication to be at the top of the game.

Just like the porn biz or the car biz or anything you do in life.
Most people do everything half-ass and their station in life reflects that. But a handful of people really, really love what they do and LIVE it. Those are the ones who rise to the top in any profession. :)

Dankasaur 07-21-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19726356)
It's a misconception that bodybuilders using steroids aren't working their asses off.
You could take every steroid he is taking and unless you followed his strict diet and workout regimen you would just get really, really fat.

Pro Bodybuilders make a lot of money off of endorsements by winning contests. It's a science for Mr. Olympia IFBB competitors.
All they do is eat, workout, and sleep (sleep is when your muscles actually rebuild and grow).

I used to read Muscle And Fitness a lot when I first started getting into shape. And the pro bodybuilders day is very, very strict. Steroids won't do anything except help them rebuild muscle faster so there is less "downtime" for the next workout.

A guy like that will mostly sleep and eat. They set alarm clocks and keep their pre-prepared chicken or fish and rice meals in their bedrooms. They get woke up every 2 hours to eat.

It takes a lot of protein and calories to achieve that kind of muscle mass...and it's a full time job for them.

Of course people just think it's as easy as taking steroids and lifting some weights. But it's much, much more than that. They have entire teams that are measuring meals, protein, calories, hours of sleep, water retention and of course almost daily blood draws to be tested for any liver or kidney damage.

There is a lot of money at stake in pro bodybuilding.

That's cool that they're dedicated to it and shit, but why someone would want to look like that is beyond me... Nothing wrong with being ripped and having some muscles, but looking like a freak? I'd rather be fat. :2 cents:

Also to the twink op, hey gurrrl

Robbie 07-21-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19726378)
That's cool that they're dedicated to it and shit, but why someone would want to look like that is beyond me... Nothing wrong with being ripped and having some muscles, but looking like a freak? I'd rather be fat. :2 cents:

To each his own I guess. People get obsessed with stuff. Like guys that can't stop getting tattoos or piercings.

Some people get obsessed with getting BIG. And the ones who have a good business mind can become millionaires from the endorsements that come to the very best in the world at doing it.

But rather be fat? No way. I'd rather be the guy who was the biggest and strongest man in the room and getting all the bodybuilder groupie pussy that comes with it.
Not sure if being lazy and fat scores many women. :1orglaugh

EDIT: But just to be clear...IF there are hot looking groupies for fat fucks, then I will stop going to the gym right fucking now and start eating like a pig. :1orglaugh

Robbie 07-21-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19726378)
Also to the twink op, hey gurrrl

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

MaDalton 07-21-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19726356)
It's a misconception that bodybuilders using steroids aren't working their asses off.
You could take every steroid he is taking and unless you followed his strict diet and workout regimen you would just get really, really fat.

Pro Bodybuilders make a lot of money off of endorsements by winning contests. It's a science for Mr. Olympia IFBB competitors.
All they do is eat, workout, and sleep (sleep is when your muscles actually rebuild and grow).

I used to read Muscle And Fitness a lot when I first started getting into shape. And the pro bodybuilders day is very, very strict. Steroids won't do anything except help them rebuild muscle faster so there is less "downtime" for the next workout.

A guy like that will mostly sleep and eat. They set alarm clocks and keep their pre-prepared chicken or fish and rice meals in their bedrooms. They get woke up every 2 hours to eat.

It takes a lot of protein and calories to achieve that kind of muscle mass...and it's a full time job for them.

Of course people just think it's as easy as taking steroids and lifting some weights. But it's much, much more than that. They have entire teams that are measuring meals, protein, calories, hours of sleep, water retention and of course almost daily blood draws to be tested for any liver or kidney damage.

There is a lot of money at stake in pro bodybuilding.

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19726363)
Robbie, you got it wrong. He was not saying that they did not work hard. He actually said/agreed that they are "working like robots".

^this..

i have nothing against fitness/body building - i wish i had the discipline to work out more

i just think there's a point where it becomes painfully obvious that the human body is not made for some results you see - like the dude above or women that have beards and clits like small penises

one of our long time male actors went through it all - steroid abuse until it didnt look natural anymore, breakdown, almost died, lost 30 kilo of muscles, started over again - this time without drugs.

he looks decent now but those guys have only one topic they can talk about and no other hobbies and interests.

and when i see that they even take their tasteless rice and chicken to parties cause they won't eat regular food anymore and get panic attacks cause they get stuck somewhere and won't make it home in time for their scheduled meal then i know that for myself that is something i would never even remotely consider.

i rather stay chubby and enjoy my life

Robbie 07-21-2013 04:03 PM

Got ya. I was just pointing out that it takes a lot of dedication to actually take your body to it's full genetic potential and get the maximum growth of every muscle on your body.

It's too much for me because it's not my thing. But I assure you...I'm just as badly obsessed with shooting our scenes and also playing music. So I do understand that mindset of thinking about it 24 hours a day.

I would guess that for a serious pro-bodybuilder making top dollar...that you would have to be in that "zone" 24 hours a day/7 days a week.
There's only room for a relative handful of people at the top.

Your buddy who "abused steroids" wasn't even in the same league as the pro bodybuilders. As I was saying earlier...they have a team of doctors who measure out their supplements, meals, and anabolic steroids for optimal growth and health all the while testing every day for any negative effects and taking actions to keep that under control.

None of us normal folks (like your buddy) could ever afford to do what the IFBB pro's do.
Just like none of us can afford to train like a top NFL star, etc.

So yeah, I can see how your guy could have tried to get to their level...and then failed. It just isn't possible for a person to do that on their own.

Lots of guys do however get really big and really ripped without a team. Just by taking testosterone and the correct anabolics along with hard workouts and proper diet.
The guys right here in Vegas at Chippendales at The Rio, or "Thunder Down Under" at Excalibur are good examples of being big and chiseled and still living a "normal" life.

EDIT: Fifty "fat ass" webmasters and twink OP's

Nicky 07-21-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19725328)
I don't think that stereotype generally applies to gay webmasters.

:1orglaugh

dyna mo 07-21-2013 04:20 PM

eddie van halen shot steriods directly into his fingers, doesn't mean he didn't practice


VforVendetta 07-21-2013 05:29 PM

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Young 07-21-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19726335)
Only if you take serious supplements. I know from my and friends' experience: if you are pretty skinny you won't reach almost ANY results in 3 months, if you do it 100% clean.

Bullshit. Your friend must not be eating right or working hard in the gym.

3 Months is enough time to put on 10 solid pounds of muscle if you do it correctly. ESPECIALLY if you're skinny and just started training.

Robbie 07-21-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 19726538)
Bullshit. Your friend must not be eating right or working hard in the gym.

3 Months is enough time to put on 10 solid pounds of muscle if you do it correctly. ESPECIALLY if you're skinny and just started training.

That's not necessarily true. Everyone has a different physiology.
You are right that a lot of people would indeed have that initial jump before hitting a plateau.

But not everybody. Me, for instance.

I was 135 pounds at 6 feet tall until I was 34 years old. My metabolism is so high that it is very difficult to put on weight and muscle. I'm what is known in bodybuilding as a "hard gainer".

To get my initial boost I had to start taking tons of supplements and drinking 4,000 calory weight gainer shakes on top of eating 4 times a day.

It took me almost 2 years to get to 155 pounds

And another 3 years to hit 200.

Now I hover around 210 for the last 10 years. But getting my body to get to this point took years.

Supz 07-21-2013 10:58 PM

this thread is still gay

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 07-21-2013 11:59 PM

http://oi49.tinypic.com/35a7y28.jpg

Funny, I've noticed that there are a lot of gay men into body building here in the Bay Area.

I've played sports most of my life, but I've never really been into weightlifting.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...01951701_n.jpg

I'm happy staying reasonably fit with tennis and other aerobic activities.

:stoned

ADG

Caldo 07-22-2013 01:44 AM

:Oh crap

John-ACWM 07-22-2013 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19725328)
I don't think that stereotype generally applies to gay webmasters.

:1orglaugh

mineistaken 07-22-2013 05:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Young (Post 19726538)
Bullshit. Your friend must not be eating right or working hard in the gym.

3 Months is enough time to put on 10 solid pounds of muscle if you do it correctly. ESPECIALLY if you're skinny and just started training.

Well, whats the correct way? And like Robbie said, it depends on factors, for instance me - I can not put that much weight, my weight is always the same, does not matter if I eat lots and lots of food (junk or healthy), does not matter if I go to gym 3 times/week. Weight does not grow without supplements (at least protein shake and similar stuff). And its not only me, like 5 friends of mine that were skinny. In fact the only friends that got results were the ones that had some fat on them - they turned that fat into muscle. But those that were skinny - they got in better shape, but not much additional weight. Except 2-3kg that you gain very quick when you just start the gym. But after that even after 12 months its hard to gain extra 2-3kg. Its just not that simple.

mineistaken 07-22-2013 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19726624)

I was 135 pounds at 6 feet tall until I was 34 years old. .

Thats really skinny. I am 6 feet and 150 pounds and I am considered pretty skinny. Anyway my situation is similar - I could not put extra 10 pounds in like 24 months going to the gym. It just was not happening.
If I used supplements - that would be other story, however it was not happening in a clean way. It would be a dream that I could put on 10 pounds in 3 months easily as someone said. Actually it would be a dream if I could put on 10 pounds in 12 months. But it is not happening without supplements.

lock 07-22-2013 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19726398)

I would guess that for a serious pro-bodybuilder making top dollar...that you would have to be in that "zone" 24 hours a day/7 days a week.
There's only room for a relative handful of people at the top.
proper diet.

Huge guys that can afford to have the 12+ hours of sleep a day and the biggest wallets grow the biggest because they are often the dealers. People with real jobs cannot eat sleep train and afford growth hormones etc. Mr Olympia without Steroids Sean Connery looks a bit different to Arnold Schwarzenegger and if your not using then your a weights trainer not really a body builder. Gregg Valentino has spend over a million on juice. I know many guys that you would question whether they do roids or not that don't but the supplements available will never offer the gain that is rife in the game. Sure their are natural competitions but they have nothing on the roid boys.

georgeyw 07-22-2013 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19726624)
That's not necessarily true. Everyone has a different physiology.
You are right that a lot of people would indeed have that initial jump before hitting a plateau.

But not everybody. Me, for instance.

I was 135 pounds at 6 feet tall until I was 34 years old. My metabolism is so high that it is very difficult to put on weight and muscle. I'm what is known in bodybuilding as a "hard gainer".

To get my initial boost I had to start taking tons of supplements and drinking 4,000 calory weight gainer shakes on top of eating 4 times a day.

It took me almost 2 years to get to 155 pounds

And another 3 years to hit 200.

Now I hover around 210 for the last 10 years. But getting my body to get to this point took years.

Jesus, wish I had that problem. I've never been a fat ass, but always struggled to be a skinny bloke. No big gut or anything like that, hovered around 120 or so kg so what around 270lbs? Now down to 220lbs and feel like a skinny little kid.

CaptainHowdy 07-22-2013 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Lace (Post 19725323)
Starting to get back into shape. :winkwink:

http://i.imgur.com/pUlTBbN.jpg


mamaliga 07-22-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19726662)
I'm happy staying reasonably fit with tennis and other aerobic activities
ADG

and this is not gay isnt it ?:winkwink:

alex.missyouth 07-22-2013 07:37 AM

gay thread

Dankasaur 07-22-2013 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by alex.missyouth (Post 19726998)
gay thread

Three rules that will make it not gay:
  1. Our balls don't touch
  2. We don't make eye contact
  3. We beat each other up afterwords

Lace 07-22-2013 08:19 AM

I want to motor boat Claudia Marie's tits.

_Richard_ 07-22-2013 08:22 AM

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7...qhtmo1_500.gif

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Originally Posted by Lace (Post 19727041)
I want to motor boat Claudia Marie's tits.

can't. too magnificent.. best you'll do is lightly lay your head upon them

Lace 07-22-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19727049)
can't. too magnificent.. best you'll do is lightly lay your head upon them

That'll do. As long as she cooks up a meal like Paula Deen after my nap upon her mammaries.


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