50 racists on GFY . . . and yeah, I am talking about you.

Do you have to use Ben Gay to get your fingers to move properly when you type?

such an idiot.... I promice you I hit you once your gonna feel close to death if not knocked out and helpless....

not to mention forensics proves his head was bashed on concrete when did you get a degree in forensics ?

I heard the overturned truck was planted there so Zimmerman could emerge a hero.


FALSE FLAG OPERATION

Baddog when he was a youngin

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Yeah it was at close range so by then a gun isn't as much of an advantage because it's almost a crap shot what happens next versus a knife and two people at close range with one behind you and one in front. With a gun it's better to be a couple lengths away as it's more of an advantage. It made me think a lot afterwards. If I had a CCW at that time it probably would have resulted in someone getting killed - one or both of them or me. I would have hoped they would have ran off when they saw the gun but you never know. Now I know the key is to be more aware of your surroundings (I wasn't) so you can see it coming quicker and anticipate so you have more of a chance to react better or even avoid the situation entirely. A gun can't always save you if you don't do this.

I sympathize with GZ somewhat but like I said I question some of his story. If he told the truth then I wish him the best and am glad he got off but if he lied I think it's sad even though in a way I can understand how it could have turned into this. It's just too bad it happened the way it did. There are so many other things which could have happened instead.

I'd be willing to bet I am in better health than you. :2 cents:

Well now using Ben Gay is not really a health issue.....or is it.

He also keeps willfully ignoring the fact that Zimmermans nose was broken. which was the first blow, knocking Zimmerman to the ground. As you well know, thats already enough to put you in a pretty desperate state of mind... and that in itself is cause enough by Florida law to use a weapon in self defense. Rochard claimed after having it said Zimmermans nose was broken to him 100 or more times, after being corrected countless times and after seeing the pictures countless times "this is the first i've ever heard that". He's clearly incapable of being honest about any aspect of the evidence or facts.

Why would you use it?

I love how George who lied to the court , is considered a beacon of honesty and if he said thats the way it happened then its gospel. lol

No one said he's honest about anything. Thats a lie you are telling. The evidence is consistent with his version of events. That was proven in court.

It doesn't matter if he lied about every single thing he said. It's about what the facts demonstrate... and the fact that a jury heard the entire case (where Murder 2 was an insane, unprovable charge to appease idiots) and found him not guilty.

The ignorance runs deep with this one . . . . he never said shit in court Tony. He never got on the stand. :2 cents:

I'm really fascinated with the fact that these guys have created a whole new version of events that is not rooted in reality or consistent with the facts/evidence and then cling to it as if there is no other version... .forgetting that teams of investigators, detectives, FBI, chief of police, state prosecutor etc etc etc combed over everything and found no reason to charge him.... AND the prosecutor failed to prove otherwise... AND a jury found him not guilty.

It is a case of the investigators not being able to see the forest for the trees. It is much easier to see the truth when you are thousands of miles away from the event and you utilize the Internet to get your evidence several months later.

This was a fist fight that ended up with a teenager being shot and killed.

He fractured his nose. The EMTs at the scene didn't even give him so much as a band aid for the cuts on the back of his head - If his head was bashed on on concrete shouldn't he be rushed to the ER for a MRI or something? He wasn't. Because he wasn't even hurt.

You are wrong

You are a former Marine, right? You know the drill - If you don't handle things, you get handled. Zimmerman got handled, panicked like a little crybaby, and shot and killed Martin.

You mean it was an attack, that resulted in the attacker being killed? I mean... that is after all, what every involved detective, police officer, the chief of police, the state prosecutor and FBI investigators as well as the Jury determined.

Anyway,,, once again, you should stop and take a long hard look at yourself when people keep saying again and again that you can't possibly be serious.

It's a good thing that the people in the SUV weren't packing Skittles and iced tea.

because he stopped it before he got killed or seriously hurt.... so by your statement if a grown man (yes 17 is grown you can die for your country at 17) is raping your daughter and beating her... she can't defend herself because he's only 17? or does she have to wait until she feels her heart stop beating to say ok now ive been beat up enough ....


since you recently hit your head hard and lost all your common sense let me remind you it only takes one punch

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I also know that I know when ive won a fight... I know it would take me about 2 seconds to knock you silly and put you in fear of your life so I would stop... obviously this punk little wanna be gangster kid did not know when he won a fight ..... so he got what was coming to him....
plain and simple... I stand by my word

im my only son was beating you like martin was beating zimmerman you have every right to shoot him dead cause your in fear of your life and my son better fucking know better....

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That's what Rochard would have done...and then declared himself a hero. :1orglaugh

And hey, wait a minute: was this family that he helped save black or white?

If they were anything BUT black...then it PROVES that Zimmerman is a fucking racist! Let the riots begin!!! :1orglaugh

let me also remind rochard since he's so fucking smart that many many many boxers have died days after a fight.... never sought medical attention cause they felt fine....

you can't judge fear of life based on injuries sustained.. thats just retarded.... and a very retarded statement rochard please man your giving the rest of usmc a horrible name

if your cornered in a back alley by fuckinf MS13 you have every right be in fear of you life....

how about this.... if someone told me in person "you gonna die tonight motherfucker" I would kill them on the spot , bare hands, gun, rock, knife by any means I could..... weather they touched me or not... and I don't care if the kid is 15 or 35 you tell me your going to take my life you just spoke your last words.... it's very simple.... so take the fight out of the picture martin told him he gonna kill him

Don't forget the prosecution "lied to the court" too. (withheld evidence) And yet you CHOOSE to go with their version of the way it happened as "gospel".

Hi BD,

There is audio of him saying something that could sound racist, but nothing I've read or heard makes him out to be a racist.

The whole issue with this is that Treyvon Martin would be alive today, If Zimmerman followed the advice of the 911 operator and he had not followed him.

Zimmerman was the head of the neighbourhood watch, right? All he had to do was WATCH tne neighbourhood and then call the cops. He didn't even have to get out of his neighbourhood watchin' chair.

The fact that he went after him, and got into a confrontation with him, and shot and killed him, AND got away with it, is what pisses alot of people off.

Treyvon would also be alive today if he simply continued walking.

Quality member of society :thumbsup

Justice for the ones that have to put up with this bullshit debate ...

legally 911 operators can not tell you anything....

if a car crashed and you called 911 and told them 2 people were dying the operator would tell you do not approach it's standard statement and no legal binding

And if you were "getting handled" on the way to your death you would not panic, right, tough guy? :1orglaugh

During the trial the Physicians Assistant that examined Zimmerman and was a prosecution witness...testified that Zimmerman...in her medical opinion...had a broken nose and several contusions/knots/bumps on the back...side and front of his head...as well as two lacerations to the back of his head...which would mean that his head was bashed either by concrete or fists or both...multiple times.

There are a multiple reasons why a person would not want to go to the ER...not the least of which it usually costs in the thousands of dollars.

Tell you what, if this had gone the other way, you wouldn't be reading about Trayvon doing anything positive if he got in the news. As far as I'm concerned it's a tragedy but the right person walked away.

I have seen Boxers die from head injuries, that "don't look that bad"

Once you get Knocked out, it isn't like the old days when people get off you and walk away. They use that time to Stomp you!

Teens kill people all the time..

dood boxers walk out of the ring all the time feeling fine only to die days later .... rochard argument is invalid I am convinced he is losing it... as a usmc myself I want you to know he has lost his marbles

Mark: You do not know the facts; you did not watch the trial. I did. What people think might have happened that did not watch the trial means less than nothing to me.

I have heard TM's family's attorney talk about the tape and she never says anything about it possibly being "coons" she says "they" in "they always get away with it" must mean blacks. She is the racist.

hubba hubba id like to ride that canoe with you :winkwink:

See this kind of comment is what I think makes many people see racism. What do you base this on? I know when I was his age I did pot (so does 50% of the population that age if not more) and I was suspended more times than him. I wasn't a bad person.

I would not expect a 17-year-old male that likes to get into fights doing many heroic things. Has nothing to do with being black. Take 17, male, and likes to fight? that's all you need.

They werent on trial for killing someone.

Yes but if an unarmed teen attacked me when witnesses were present and someone stated the cops were called I probably wouldn't be so kick to blow the kid away UNLESS I felt he were armed or that I were in very serious danger.

IF that was Zimmerman screaming like mad then I believe (rightly or wrongly) that he felt this. I respect that. But all the same it could have been Trayvon screaming upon seeing the gun too. People can say what they want but I seriously doubt TM was a criminal who was used to gunfights or life or death fights. Most kids that age are going to freak out when someone points a gun at them even if they act like tough gangsters (which TM was NOT).

If you pull a gun on most unarmed 17 yo kids or otherwise show that you have one during a fight they are going to run like hell, beg for their life, or scream for help. They aren't going threaten you with "you are going to die tonight" (unless they are on something). The whole thing just smells funny like GZ freaked out a bit and went overboard in more than one way and then made up some parts of the story to make him look the best. I don't know what is true. I wasn't there. But that is how it seems to me.

I liked fights too at 17. It didn't mean I ran around starting them with random people. It didn't mean I could do no good ever in my life and it definitely didn't mean I deserved to be shot. I've done a lot of good for people actually.

Like I said. I don't believe that GZ is a racist. But I'm prone to believing that some of his supporters are racists even if they don't yet realize it. I question which side many people would take if the races were switched around and TM were a white 17 yo kid and GZ were a black man.

I've NEVER heard anyone suggest before that 17 yo white kids who do little things like pot or get suspended from school (Bart Simpson type stuff) are thugs who deserve to be shot and "wouldn't do anything good in their lives anyway".

I'm NOT for civil rights charges against GZ for racial reasons. But I do think many of his supporters are racists and I can see why minorities are upset. The things many of you have said would likely qualify for hate speech in a few nations. Charles Barkley has it right.

Of course, when you add the women's jewelry and the screwdriver you definitely have the makings of a hero.

So, you think it is okay for the prosecution to lie and withhold evidence because they were not the ones on trial? Wow, I sure hope you are on trial someday, would be fun to watch.

But none of your comments change the fact that GZ could NOT LIE to the court because he NEVER TESTIFIED.

How racist are you?

Of course he may have had those items for legitimate reasons too. After all he was never charged let alone convicted. In fact TM had no criminal record from what I understand. Yet people treat it as if he were in a gang and he was doing drive-by shootings and dealing crack.

The screwdriver is almost meaningless. It's claimed that it is a burglary tool but it's also still just a screwdriver. Sometimes I carried one to school too after working on my car. The same for the women's jewelry. It could be for his girlfriend or a gift from someone paying him or something. Who knows. It could be anything. If something were stolen you would think someone would have reported it and he would have been busted. You can't just assume he is a criminal. I guess you can but it's not right.

LOL! You always have an excuse ready for the bad guys!

They are the officers of the court who are supposed to be seeking the truth. Not hiding it.

baddogs turning into paul markham quick

How do you figure that? We aren't even discussing off-line porn VS online porn.

Your analogy makes no sense.

Why do people have to bring stuff up as if it was a fact when the trial proved otherwise and is already over?

Zimmerman had a ganked nose until he pushed it back into place. It wasn't broken. Call it fucked up for about 10 minutes.

Zimmerman was not shown medically to have had his head "bashed." He was examined, please keep that in mind, and he had 2 abrasions and a couple of areas they thought might be bumps with one examiner even saying it's possible it's just the shape of his skull. The abrasions were treated with 2 band aids which is the proper treatment for skinned knees too. I'm not saying he wasn't in fear for his life, I'm just saying that there is no longer a need to continue embellishing the story.

The jury has spoken after hearing all of this. They didn't require him to have a "broken" nose and his head "bashed" and neither does anyone else. All you have to show is you were in fear regardless of who instigated it in the first place.

Uhm... when your nose is out of place... i.e. separated where the cartilage meets the bone... and has to be "put back into place" using your own words, its now called "ganked" and not "broken"?
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I can't believe Dave doesn't make you change your nickname so your unending stupidity is not associated with PimpRoll.

In fact, its sort of a pussy move to keep your nick if you don't work for them.