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Sly 07-23-2013 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728089)
No it isn't. Redneck is a very common term WHITE people use all the time - generally used to describe backward hicks...

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Black people use the N word fairly often, in my experience. Just now I have two black guys that work for me, I have heard them both use the word as casually as I would say "milk."

Does that mean it is no longer a racial slur?

BFT3K 07-23-2013 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19728484)
So based on the gun nuts/right wingers point of view its ok to shoot at a family for turning around in your driveway and the black man is to blame. Does that pretty much sum it up?

Yup, that's it in a nutshell. It may not make a stitch of sense to a thinking person, but hey, why let logic get in the way of mindless fear and blind hate!

MaDalton 07-23-2013 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19728475)
about 15 years ago Mexican gangbangers killed a family in Mt Washington for that very reason :2 cents:

british bombers killed half of my family, still i dont shoot at every english man i meet on an airplane...

BFT3K 07-23-2013 07:28 AM

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ottopottomouse 07-23-2013 08:18 AM

Without slavery all the blacks who winge about slavery would be up to their eyes in shit and flies somewhere in Africa.

Si 07-23-2013 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 19728586)
Without slavery all the blacks who winge about slavery would be up to their eyes in shit and flies somewhere in Africa.

I've always wondered how true this would be.

If you turned back the clock, and left them all in Africa, where would we/they be today?

SuckOnThis 07-23-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 19728586)
Without slavery all the blacks who winge about slavery would be up to their eyes in shit and flies somewhere in Africa.

And ironically the ones who complain about blacks the most are the ones who's ancestors brought them over here.

CDSmith 07-23-2013 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728089)
No it isn't. Redneck is a very common term WHITE people use all the time - generally used to describe backward hicks...

This is the correct definition.

CDSmith 07-23-2013 09:00 AM

What we need to do, obviously, is reexamine the definition of 'racist'.

Because last time I checked, "redneck" did not constitute a race.


All bullshit arguing aside, was the old lady arrested? Had her weapon(s) confiscated?

A carload of people pulling into the first ten feet of your driveway just to back out and turn around isn't reason enough to go off guns blazing. Or did I miss something?

candyflip 07-23-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dankasaur (Post 19728070)
Another day, another uninformed idiot giving his "opinion" about other people.

You're another idiot and looks like you're giving your opinion of him.

Another nick or yours trying WAY TOO HARD to fit in. It's fucking comical to watch :1orglaugh

Dankasaur 07-23-2013 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19728677)
You're another idiot and looks like you're giving your opinion of him.

Another nick or yours trying WAY TOO HARD to fit in. :1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/qQADG9o.jpg

50 candyflip posts following me around with a hardon.

Robbie 07-23-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Bourke (Post 19728267)
No Robbie, where did I say that?
Racial memory is LEARNED. They learn it from their parents, siblings, communities etc.

So it isn't a "memory" at all. It's just more racist shit that is no different than when white families teach their kids to hate blacks too.

That's what I thought.

Robbie 07-23-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728459)
Firstly, you don't shoot DIRECTLY AT THE CAR to "scare people off" and secondly, you can't totally blame some generic "ghetto group" for violence, when the white man has managed to profit off of all layers of that shit - from arms dealing, to private ownership of the prison system.

People who frame the argument like your ilk are the real (and traditional) racists.

This gun problem exists almost exclusively in America, and if you follow the money, it is NOT because of "ghetto" people - it is because of unmitigated greed, like almost ALL of the major problems on this planet.

You are a complete and total racist BFT3K

Not only do you call white people racist names, but now you are insinuating that black people are all stupid and easily manipulated by white people like a bunch of puppets.

You need to calm down and stop seeing everything as skin color bro.

As for a "gun problem" only in America?
Tell that to all the black people in Africa being slaughtered by the entire village by "warlords" (basically the equivalent of the Chicago street gangs on steroids)

I'd say put down the picture of Obama and stop jerking off to it for one second and open your eyes.

scubadiver626 07-23-2013 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19728498)
Black people use the N word fairly often, in my experience. Just now I have two black guys that work for me, I have heard them both use the word as casually as I would say "milk."

Does that mean it is no longer a racial slur?

They use the word to take its power away. Whites use the word redneck in a similar way, but its meaning doesn't run so deep.

Robbie 07-23-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by scubadiver626 (Post 19728812)
They use the word to take its power away. Whites use the word redneck in a similar way, but its meaning doesn't run so deep.

I'm wondering what the word even means anymore?

It hasn't been used by a slave owner to a slave since the 1860's.

It was used pretty commonly up until the late 1960's during segregation in a derogatory way.

But since the 1970's (Richard Pryor) it has been used almost exclusively by blacks. That's 40 years.
How much longer will we have to wait for a word to lose it's "power" when it already has no power for white people to use it?

I think that's what bothers a lot of non-blacks (white, asian, jewish, hispanic)...it seems like no matter how many decades go by, the "problem" is never solved.

I guess multi-millionaires like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, etc. would see their cash flow and power end if this shit were allowed to stop.
None of those guys were born millionaires. And none of them ever had "real" jobs.

But somehow, magically...through the horrors of "racism"...they have lived the kind of lives that the poor kids in Chicago will NEVER know.

dyna mo 07-23-2013 10:12 AM

interesting to see the racial memory theory stems from jung's archetypes::::::


Genetic memory is invoked to explain the racial memory postulated by Carl Jung. In Jungian psychology, racial memories are posited memories, feelings and ideas inherited from our ancestors as part of a "collective unconscious".


i used to think jung made sense, but his views were presented to me as the alternative to freud.

Robbie 07-23-2013 10:34 AM

dyna_mo you obviously have "daddy issues" and are a racist.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

BFT3K 07-23-2013 10:41 AM

The funniest thing about this thread is that the original story is about an innocent family who was shot at for using some idiot lady's driveway to turn around. The likelihood is that the family was also white. How racial nonsense got mixed in with this just shows how people REALLY feel about things, and how the Trayvon case is still a lightning rod.

Now that race has been introduced however, please show me the BLACK CEOs who manufacture and profit off of the sale of the assault rifles and illegal guns being used right now, in the US, Mexico, Africa, etc. You know, the LEGAL sales team.

Show me the BLACK leader of the NRA. Show me the BLACK CEOs who run the corporate for-profit prison system.

If you're a white guy in America, and you don't think your life is easier than a black guy's, you are delusional. It's like saying a Palestinian's life in Israel is equally comfortable to that of a Jew living in Israel.

If you think BLACK welfare costs in the US come anywhere near the cost of corporate welfare, which benefits mostly rich white guys, you are delusional.

If you think spending $8,000 per student for public education is a waste of taxpayer's money, but that $40,000 p/year to house a prisoner is a better use of taxpayer's money, you are delusional.

If you think the corporate owned media will ever be honest with you about almost anything, you are delusional.

If you think class warfare doesn't exist, you are delusional.

If you think the life of a dumb fucking hick, bible thumping, gun-owning, trailer park living, toothless idiot, will be improved by voting Republican, you are beyond delusional.

If you think Libertarianism is anything short of Anarchy, you are a fool.

Have I angered an adequate number of you, on enough levels to get your blood boiling? Good.

Flame away!

Robbie 07-23-2013 10:42 AM

I was just thinking...half the time I can't remember where I put my keys five minutes ago.

Yet SOMEHOW, young black gangbangers in Chicago that are gunning people down in "wars" over drugs (because the govt. made them illegal causing the same violence as alcohol prohibition did)...they have a "racial memory" that is a couple hundred years old???

Wow! That's impressive!

Now what the fuck did I do with my car keys...

Robbie 07-23-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728891)
the life of a dumb fucking hick, bible thumping, gun-owning, trailer park living, toothless idiot

Have I angered enough of you on enough levels to get your blood boiling? Good.

I'm not angry.

Just wondering why you are such a racist and an elitist.

You think that white people are either "dumb fucking hick, bible thumping, gun-owning, trailer park living, toothless idiots"
OR
They are evil geniuses who can control the poor stupid black sheep who have no power to change anything.

Damn bro. You are insulting to both whites and blacks.

Which one of the 2 white people types are you by the way?

I'm gonna guess that you consider yourself to be a special THIRD type:
The elitist white guy who considers himself "enlightened" and smarter and "better" than other people.

You should really look at what you are writing. You aren't even in the arena of ideas...you are standing outside of it (and in your mind you think you are floating above it because of your "enlightenment")

Reality is that you're telling black people that they are helpless and stupid.
And you're telling white people that they are evil geniuses AND stupid.

Meanwhile, YOU yourself are somehow above it all because you say those things about blacks and whites.

Reminds me of watching Ed Shulz on MSNBC.

Dankasaur 07-23-2013 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728891)
The funniest thing about this thread is that the original story is about an innocent family who was shot at for using some idiot lady's driveway to turn around. The likelihood is that the family was also white. How racial nonsense got mixed in with this just shows how people REALLY feel about things, and how the Trayvon case is still a lightning rod.

Now that race has been introduced however, please show me the BLACK CEOs who manufacture and profit off of the sale of the assault rifles and illegal guns being used right now, in the US, Mexico, Africa, etc. You know, the LEGAL sales team.

Show me the BLACK leader of the NRA. Show me the BLACK CEOs who run the corporate for-profit prison system.

If you're a white guy in America, and you don't think your life is easier than a black guy's, you are delusional. It's like saying a Palestinian's life in Israel is equally comfortable to that of a Jew living in Israel.

If you think BLACK welfare costs in the US come anywhere near the cost of corporate welfare, which benefits mostly rich white guys, you are delusional.

If you think spending $8,000 per student for public education is a waste of taxpayer's money, but that $40,000 p/year to house a prisoner is a better use of taxpayer's money, you are delusional.

If you think the corporate owned media will ever be honest with you about almost anything, you are delusional.

If you think class warfare doesn't exist, you are delusional.

If you think the life of a dumb fucking hick, bible thumping, gun-owning, trailer park living, toothless idiot, will be improved by voting Republican, you are beyond delusional.

If you think Libertarianism is anything short of Anarchy, you are a fool.

Have I angered an adequate number of you, on enough levels to get your blood boiling? Good.

Flame away!

http://i.imgur.com/QGyG2Vo.jpg

BFT3K 07-23-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19728906)
I'm not angry.

Just wondering why you are such a racist and an elitist.

You think that white people are either "dumb fucking hick, bible thumping, gun-owning, trailer park living, toothless idiots"
OR
They are evil geniuses who can control the poor stupid black sheep who have no power to change anything.

Damn bro. You are insulting to both whites and blacks.

Which one of the 2 white people types are you by the way?

I'm gonna guess that you consider yourself to be a special THIRD type:
The elitist white guy who considers himself "enlightened" and smarter and "better" than other people.

You should really look at what you are writing. You aren't even in the arena of ideas...you are standing outside of it (and in your mind you think you are floating above it because of your "enlightenment")

Reality is that you're telling black people that they are helpless and stupid.
And you're telling white people that they are evil geniuses AND stupid.

Meanwhile, YOU yourself are somehow above it all because you say those things about blacks and whites.

Reminds me of watching Ed Shulz on MSNBC.

Your opinions mean as much to me as mine likely mean to you.

Hurling insults, cherry picking, compartmentalizing, and combining issues to suit your positions, in an effort to appear well-informed, holier than thou, or generally more in tune with the realities of life as you see it, does not impress me.

I will never change your mindset, and you will never change mine, so to end the debate with "I win" or "you win" is an impossibility.

I can think you are completely wrong, and you can think I am completely wrong, but in the end, the best we can ever achieve is to agree to disagree.

Robbie 07-23-2013 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728951)
Hurling insults, cherry picking, compartmentalizing, and combining issues to suit your positions, in an effort to appear well-informed, holier than thou, or generally more in tune with the realities of life as you see it, does not impress me..

You just described what you have been doing since you started this thread.

You really don't see that do you?

BFT3K 07-23-2013 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19728965)
You just described what you have been doing since you started this thread.

You really don't see that do you?

Here's what I see: I started a thread pointing out that some people should not own guns.

Since this post started, you, specifically, have called me a racist, an elitist, a person who believes they are smarter than anyone else, that I am "above it all" etc.

Other than that, you haven't added anything useful to the thread, you haven't said anything consequential, and you haven't even stayed on track with the original story.

Did I miss something?

Dankasaur 07-23-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728066)
Stupid ass redneck hick lady

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728974)
Here's what I see: I started a thread pointing out that some people should not own guns.

Since this post started, you, specifically, have called me a racist, an elitist, a person who believes they are smarter than anyone else, that I am "above it all" etc.

Other than that, you haven't added anything useful to the thread, you haven't said anything consequential, and you haven't even stayed on track with the original story.

Did I miss something?

:upsidedow:upsidedow:upsidedow

Robbie 07-23-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19728974)
Here's what I see: I started a thread pointing out that some people should not own guns.

Since this post started, you, specifically, have called me a racist, an elitist, a person who believes they are smarter than anyone else, that I am "above it all" etc.

Other than that, you haven't added anything useful to the thread, you haven't said anything consequential, and you haven't even stayed on track with the original story.

Did I miss something?

Yep you missed EVERYTHING.

I don't think that any intelligent person reading your post (even the thread title itself) would fail to see that you are being insulting to people.

And when you further "explained" how white people are the real reason that black gangmembers kill each other in such huge numbers...that's insulting to blacks (by saying that they are puppets to whites)

Damn near everything you are saying in this post is insulting to everyone who doesn't fall into lockstep with YOUR way of thinking (which seems to be racist and narrow minded).

I'm amused that people can never stop this kind of thing. You are so deeply ingrained into the faux-liberal ideology that you can't even see that you are being used by these politicians and "leaders". They form your opinions for you and you follow along and that gives them power.

But you're right. Apparently nothing anyone says will EVER cause you to take pause for a moment to question some of your beliefs.

Kinda sounds like one of those "dumb, redneck, idiotic, toothless" white people and their religious beliefs doesn't it?

NOTHING can make you even consider another point of view. Or that maybe...just MAYBE you might be wrong.

Pretty sad.

dyna mo 07-23-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19728878)
dyna_mo you obviously have "daddy issues" and are a racist.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

good thing i don't own a gun, oh wait........ :1orglaugh

BFT3K 07-23-2013 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19729005)
Yep you missed EVERYTHING.

I don't think that any intelligent person reading your post (even the thread title itself) wouldn't see that you are being insulting to people.

And when you further "explained" how white people are the real reason that black gangmembers kill each other in such huge numbers...that's insulting to blacks (by saying that they are puppets to whites)

Damn near everything you are saying in this post is insulting to everyone who doesn't fall into lockstep with YOUR way of thinking (which seems to be racist and narrow minded).

I'm amused that people can never stop this kind of thing. You are so deeply ingrained into the faux-liberal ideology that you can't even see that you are being used by these politicians and "leaders". They form your opinions for you and you follow along and that gives them power.

But you're right. Apparently nothing anyone says will EVER cause you to take pause for a moment to question some of your beliefs.

Kinda sounds like one of those "dumb, redneck, idiotic, toothless" white people and their religious beliefs doesn't it?

NOTHING can make you even consider another point of view. Or that maybe...just MAYBE you might be wrong.

Pretty sad.

You added black gangbangers to the mix - I did not.

You state that I consider black people to be puppets - I do not.

You say I think white people are "evil geniuses" while nothing can be furher from the truth.

You think you know better - I don't believe so.

I'm amused that people can never stop this kind of thing. You are so deeply ingrained into the faux-conservative/libertarian ideology that you can't even see that you are being used by these politicians and "leaders". They form your opinions for you and you follow along and that gives them power.

NOTHING can make you even consider another point of view. Or that maybe...just MAYBE you might be wrong.

Pretty sad. :2 cents:

dyna mo 07-23-2013 11:50 AM

growing up in south texas i heard the term *redneck* decades ago. i was told as a child it began as a name to call mexicans who labored outdoors all day and got sunburned above their t-shirt collar.

Robbie 07-23-2013 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 19729017)
~insert nothingness~

Vinnie...look at the thread title of your post. Look at the insults you have made over and over (idiots, toothless, redneck).
Look at how you said it was "white CEO's" of gun companies who are responsible for black people shooting each other.

You seriously don't see that what you are saying is insulting huh?

How much more racist and noninclusive of other people can you be?

theking 07-23-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19729019)
growing up in south texas i heard the term *redneck* decades ago. i was told as a child it began as a name to call mexicans who labored outdoors all day and got sunburned above their t-shirt collar.

It may have been applied to Mexican's in Texas but I think it generally applies to country folk that...for the most part...make their living working outside...and for the most part have...I think...greater common sense than those that make fun of them...such as BFT3K.

BFT3K 07-23-2013 12:34 PM

Why do you guys think my post is so offensive?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...63109274_n.jpg

I just don't see it.

http://kkstupid.com/wp-content/uploa...araMyKids1.png

Why can't we all just get along?

Robbie 07-23-2013 12:39 PM

Because you meant it to be offensive.

Your posts seem to show a lot of disdain for "redneck" people. And at the same time a lot of insults to blacks because you seem to think that they are all "victims" or something.

I know you probably don't mean any of that. But it sure comes across that way. And I think it hurts your business sometimes.

And even if it doesn't hurt it, it sure doesn't help it.

Tom_PM 07-23-2013 12:45 PM

This reminds me that when I was a kid visiting cousins, we would drive around and just pick a random house. We'd park in the driveway and go ring the doorbell and when it opened, we'd shout "we're here!" as if we were expected visitors. Then we would apologize that we were at the wrong address and leave. I guess these days that's just inviting some gunshot wounds and maybe a couple of funerals?

Funny then, deadly now? I guess.

Robbie 07-23-2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19729076)
This reminds me that when I was a kid visiting cousins, we would drive around and just pick a random house. We'd park in the driveway and go ring the doorbell and when it opened, we'd shout "we're here!" as if we were expected visitors. Then we would apologize that we were at the wrong address and leave. I guess these days that's just inviting some gunshot wounds and maybe a couple of funerals?

Funny then, deadly now? I guess.

Depends on where you lived.

I lived in central Fla. as a kid. Half the time you might get away with it. 49% of the time a dog would have eaten your ass up. And every once in a while you might get shot.

Back in the 1990s through 2008, I lived in S.C. Same thing. Either dog bit or shot.

Here in Vegas...I'm not sure. I live in a beautiful gated community. So you wouldn't have been able to get in.
But if you went to some poorer all-black neighborhoods or poorer all hispanic or poorer white neighborhoods and tried that...I'm pretty sure you would get killed or beaten so bad you would wish you were dead

dyna mo 07-23-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theking (Post 19729043)
It may have been applied to Mexican's in Texas but I think it generally applies to country folk that...for the most part...make their living working outside...and for the most part have...I think...greater common sense than those that make fun of them...such as BFT3K.



oh yeah. the story as it was passed on to me was pasadena, texas's way of redirecting the slur to the mexicans. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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Tom_PM 07-23-2013 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19729080)
Depends on where you lived.

I lived in central Fla. as a kid. Half the time you might get away with it. 49% of the time a dog would have eaten your ass up. And every once in a while you might get shot.

Back in the 1990s through 2008, I lived in S.C. Same thing. Either dog bit or shot.

Here in Vegas...I'm not sure. I live in a beautiful gated community. So you wouldn't have been able to get in.
But if you went to some poorer all-black neighborhoods or poorer all hispanic or poorer white neighborhoods and tried that...I'm pretty sure you would get killed or beaten so bad you would wish you were dead

This is what the cousins in central Kansas would do when we visited. People usually just laughed or looked confused. Was the early 70's. Different time in so many ways.

Robbie 07-23-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 19729091)
This is what the cousins in central Kansas would do when we visited. People usually just laughed or looked confused. Was the early 70's. Different time in so many ways.

I grew up in the 1960's and 1970's in central Fla.

That's a time where you would definitely have gotten dog bit, shot, or beat up over doing stupid shit. Everybody had guns in their homes and in their pickup trucks and cars. It was just normal.

That said...me and my dumb ass friends all did shit constantly. Toilet Papering yards, bashing in mailboxes with baseball bats, cutting donuts in people's yards, and other assorted juvenile stupidity that made us laugh like hell.

And as I said earlier...looking back on it now, and thinking about all the times we were chased, threatened, etc. and BARELY got away...it's a miracle I didn't get killed when I was a teenager.

dyna mo 07-23-2013 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19729302)
Everybody had guns in their homes and in their pickup trucks and cars. It was just normal.

this was very normal growing up in my neck of the woods
http://www.ski-epic.com/2007_mini_sk...p_gun_rack.jpg

Tom_PM 07-23-2013 05:42 PM

I grew up in mostly small towns and you could walk into another persons house and the most they'd be was surprised for a minute. We never locked our doors because everyone knew everybody's name and business anyway. You're really saying that where you lived if you rang someones doorbell they might greet you with a shotgun or something? In the 1960's? Holy fuck you grew up hard man.


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