Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19740115)

He's busy scouring Craigslist for his next big scoop.

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19740289)

Sorry about pissing into your purse......Im sure Fabian doesn't hold it against you any.

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19740296)

Why don't you read my post on page 2 and give some much needed attention to a massive problem that can be mitigated ?

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19739833)

I'd like to see Mike South do a story on the organised racketeering and theft by the companies behind any of the following sites:

Rapidgator
keep2share.cc
NetLoad

or maybe one in his own backyard

UltraMegabit

These sites deliberately foster relationships with piracy forums and uploaders of huge amounts of porn, paying bounties above and beyond the normal uploader rates for latest releases. This involves the organised use of stolen credit card numbers to fraudulently gain memberships on sites and in some cases tapping into human resources within the production and distribution channels of porn companies themselves to get hold of not yet released product.

Millions of dollars is lost to this industry every month as a result of these organised criminal conspiracies.

Why is it that those commentating on this industry keep missing this giant elephant in the room while rehashing tired old stories that often end up lacking in any merit ?

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19739527)

Yeah, I guess Comedy Central is going broke too with all their interns.

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19740311)

For some reason Mike seems to think the only reason to optimize a company after a spree of M&A transactions is because it is crashing. Obviously a company not crashing would _NEVER_ try to optimize their bottom line...

That more or less answers any claim he makes a few posts up.. but yet again he keeps claiming there are "layoffs" which is a term for firing people because of business slow down or closing of a certain group in a company (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Layoff) ... without ANY kind of proof or even an INCH of facts.

He gets 5 eMails of people that were let go, and he thinks "WOW, 5 people, that's insane!" - so now all of sudden there are layoffs all across Manwin!? Who are you kidding?

As I said above, any company, always, optimizes its operations, it would be stupid not to. If there is money to save without hurting the top line revenue, why not do it!?

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

The product must not be pay sites then. You might be able to sell penis pills, dating and cams but your paysite conversions will have to get worse as time goes on if you are offering full scenes. I suppose you might get a lot by siphoning away traffic from paysite owners if you manage to rank higher than them for their marks on Google but I'm not sure I'd like that too much if I were them.

There was more money in the pool before you devalued the content to the point of being near worthless. It's shooting yourself in the foot since you are now an industry leader rather than some small obscure sponsor few promote. On top of that your whole business model is unsustainable.

Originally Posted by Nathan

We should talk again in 12 months or 24 months and see how unsustainable it is...

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I give it closer to 24 months. I think you'll always be big now but I don't think you'll be near as big 24 months from now in adult. You'll have far more competition than you do now. I think you'll try to branch off more into mainstream and seek mainstream investors. You'll make less money from actual sales from your adult properties, although you might find some people to invest in you.

Your growth seems to be slowing already. The desperate will cling to you and that'll help for a while but they'll start clinging to other saviors instead as your relative traffic falls.

[/swamie]

For all my talk I don't have anything personal against you guys and would praise you if you did a lot more to be legit. I wish you would do more to help the situation as industry leaders. I think people like you could turn it around. Just as we all could have done so 3 years ago if we acted more intelligently.

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19740323)

What I would really like Mike South do a story on is this shady ass owner guy of talent testing services. shady dude with connections to various things including of all organizations the aids healthcare foundation! Mike how about some real investigative journalism and investigate this talent services clown. And post your findings on your website.
By the Way, Mike, that talent testing services/UCLA study thing was complete total bullshit and I honestly cannot believe you backed that. Shame on you for that one dude, seriously.

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19740438)

. You don't seem as financially well off as you were in say early 2011 as a company.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19740448)

What does this even mean?

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 19740041)

I just gave myself a prostate exam...


It felt good

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19740451)

Yeah sign-up dammit that is a pretty silly fucking thing to say

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19740467)

as to your post on page 2 adultking...I saw it but like I said I'm one guy and I go where the story takes me. I know Fabian gives you lots of money and you feel a need to try to redirect me but it wont work...for one I dont have people inside those orgs feeding me info and for another they are not the highly visible and direct threat that Manwin is.

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19740494)

Things like this always seem silly right up until they are obvious. That has always been the case for the last 15 years. From what I understand it was investor income which fueled much of their growth. Without that the beast might have trouble staying fed....

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19740503)

Ok, true ...
You were right I was wrong

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19740508)

I could be wrong too. :) But I've learned to go with my gut feeling more often than not.

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19740438)

Most companies in this industry don't show external signs of weakening until the very latest stages. Part of it I think is because the facade of being a big invincible company and industry leader helps with business so it is very important to keep that at all costs once you have it.

Admittedly it doesn't look now like you are in any danger of collapse at any moment but there definitely are some signs of crack in the concrete so to speak. You don't seem as financially well off as you were in say early 2011 as a company. Let's see what another six months brings. If after a year there is nothing major that happens to you guys then I will say it was all bullshit.


I remember this.

12-30-2010



12-30-2010



https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17809498&postcount=119



I admit you guys made it so far. Longer than I expected. But also 24 months later we couldn't talk because I believe you were in prison at the time for tax related charges or did they let you out on home confinement by then? Anyway let's see what happens by the end of the year. Hopefully you don't end up in jail again. How is that going anyway? I never heard anything more about it.

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19740516)

I was never on home confinement, that's another mike south rumor.

I was released 21st December.

The investigation is ongoing, no charges were filed until now.

And in terms of Manwin, since dec 2010 we tripled in size.

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19740474)

Okay Mike the above is a good post, but dude seriously why in the world would you side with and defend this fucking owner of TTS? The guy is clearly a scumbag. Just do a little digging on him and I'm sure you'll see that.

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19740559)

Breaking news...Kayden Kross told manwin to "fuck off" and resigned.

its at http://www.mikesouth.com

Or maybe I made that up too....huh Deiter?

Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 19740557)

I used to go to a Diner every monring for breakfast. Then, one day, I go and the Diner is closed and the building is condemned! "WTF I was just here YESTERDAY. No one said they were closing, the building was being torn down, the Diner was packed...."

Businesses rarely (if ever) "admit" they are having "issues" (whatever "issues" they may be). So trying to extrapolate and surmise actual "facts" (what Fabian keeps asking for as "proof") from sketchy reportage (Mike South) is folly.

Manwin may be experiencing growth pains and therefore may be re-alligning their corporate structure but....so what? LOL None of that means what people in this thread (and industry) WANT it all to mean: that Manwin is "failing". People are prohecting all their Manwin-crashing hopes onto any scrap of "news" Mike South (or anyone) can come up with.

My call: move along people, there's nothing to see here (except Fabian/Nathan's snark-fueled remergence as a contributing GFY Member. Welcome back FB/N!).

Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19740559)

Breaking news...Kayden Kross told manwin to "fuck off" and resigned.

its at http://www.mikesouth.com

Or maybe I made that up too....huh Deiter?

Originally Posted by ReggieDurango (Post 19740609)

Okay Mike, now you're giving us a little more substance.
I haven't read your site yet but will Kayden be a free agent for boy/girl now? Or will she continue to elude we independent producers and sign a contract with someone else? Also, Mike, who is George? Who is DEITER? It's kind Strange because they used to call me DEITER as a childhood nick.

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 19740038)

Nathan is the intern???

Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19740516)

I was never on home confinement, that's another mike south rumor.

I was released 21st December.

The investigation is ongoing, no charges were filed until now.

And in terms of Manwin, since dec 2010 we tripled in size.

Originally Posted by Nathan

Sorry, but where do you take this from? What is in disarray?? What properties are we risking to lose? I have yet to see ANY facts that are not simply stemming from uninformed and bad business minds.