You are not wrong in any way, and I concur 100% in terms of my working with the various people at Manwin. But I am torn here also: I know, for me, where I in Nathan/Fabian's shoes, and I had at my disposal a financial dream factory in which to play and prosper, I myself wouldn't give one shit (let alone two) what anyone else said about me, here on GFY or ANYwhere. Just being honest.

But the Mister Peabody that sits here, today, agrees that Nathan's openness is a good thing overall. But then I think of what Jerry Seinfeld once said (paraphrasing): "If you're still trying to make it once you've made it you've lost." It just feels that way to me sometimes. Nathan does need anyone's approval. So say what you will, feel however you feel, but the fact he chooses to still post here is a cool thing tho sometimes a mystery to me. :)

Not sure what you mean by that.

AHF held a big press conference where they made a bunch of allegations.

We were investigated and cleared by LA County like Mike reported.

I somehow missed this!

I thought we were going to wait until All Saints Day to make this announcement :winkwink:

he was making a funny in regards to the CL proof ;)

I like to touch your naked crack hole

Somebody open a window quick!

It's starting to smell like a gay bathouse in here with all the tube boys dropping trou and slobbering on Nathan's dick.

Yuck :disgust
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Mike, why don´t you correct your blogpost? People still read it and think it´s a DP ad while you allready know it´s not.

just posting here to thank you all for my morning chuckle...

A homo-phobe in the adult industry is kind of like a Muslim jihadist hanging out at the Vatican. You just don't belong really and you are likely to be a frigging nuisance at best but probably something much worse. :321GFY

For all your bluster and righteous indignation and self importance, I hope it swells your heart with pride. Because unfortunately at the end of the day, at least from what I have seen, you are a clueless little prick who tries to swing his dick like he has something worth talking about and likes popping shots at people while being an anon jerk-off, which btw doesn't make you an authority of anything but having no balls.

No wonder you are so jealous of those with the cajones to actually do anything worthy of recognition. :1orglaugh

Dayummmm, that describes half the people here! Brilliant observation :thumbsup

This is a great thread and proves there is guys that will work for nothing in LA
With the drastic drop in profits over the past few years companies are more commonly
getting the unpaid guys or retired mopes to shoot their content.
I commend Dan though he is the master of getting scenes for a fraction
of what other producers are paying and that means he cans till make a profit
where others can't.

I'm placing an ad on craigslist for a sex intern, full frontal photo required.

Thanks, but sales are tough these days and it takes a lot more to it than just being cost effective with my production costs :)

How is life back in the great state of Texas?

Late sig spot ...

Wow. I'm shocked to hear sales aren't easy. You would think with all these tubes (read: opportunities) people would be tripping over themselves to buy content so they can put up said content on the tubes and reap massive profits. The visionaries of our industry have done so much to make porn mainstream that we have all sorts of new customers now just waiting to hand over their money. I've been in the industry over 15 years and l would say this is definitely the Golden era of porn.

I don't think we can thank the tube visionaries like Fabian enough. We clearly owe them some gratitude for all the millions we are making these days.

I can't wait to see what the future brings! It's so nice to be out of the stone age days of online porn around 1999 when we were all making peanuts!

Not again.

I try to stay away these times from dramas so I will just park the sig and stay calm...

Hi Lizzzzie poooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :winkwink:

Jay-Rock moved back to Texas?

Hey nathan whered you go? Did that call to Kayden Kross not go so well....oh wait you never called did you?

so tell me Deiter what do you think of Feras Antoon and David Tassillo meeting with outside investors to raise money to buy out your stock?

Intense !
This is what this thread needs !

You forgot Vassilis Kasilis and that other romanian guy constantin soize or so.

Did he also write porngraph ?

Yeah, those who suck Manwin cock. :thumbsup

I don't get why there are so many Nathan asskissers here.
Don't you understand that Manwin is directly destroying your business?

There's a difference between kissing ass and not forming a witchhunt because an unrelated company is hiring interns. False accusations and false witchhunts hurt the credibility of real accusations and real issues.

Mike south wasted my time.

Of course you're also talking about a company who:

1. In the prior company/corporate structure had million of dollars seized by the United States government. It's been alleged by many that many of the same people in upper management at Mansef are still around at Manwin behind the scenes (I'm not a reporter so I can't document all this but I've seen people like Robbie mention it here recently). Insert all the other shit Mansef did here.

2. The CEO was arrested and jailed within the last year for tax related charges and there is still an active investigation ongoing.

3. Probably has well over a hundred (if not thousands) messages from content owners on GFY upset over their content being illegally posted on this company's site.

4. The company you work for actually sued them and one point for copyrights but decided to settle with them. Upper management seemed to hint once that the reason for the settlement had to do with finances and making sure people like you still had a job.

So these aren't industry angels or fine upstanding citizens here. Just because your company settled and probably came to some other type of financial arrangement does not mean the rest of us are likewise happy.

I agree about the intern thing being bullshit but there is a difference between simply saying that and continually being one of the first people to line up on the forum to kiss Fabian and Manwin's posterior and act like they are innocent industry saviors being unjustly persecuted by an irate mob of delusional haters.

spelling "Dieter" as "Deiter" is like spelling "Bieber" as "Beiber".

just saying...

And where have I done this?

I rarely give props to anyone. I certainly don't to Manwin. So go ahead and show me where I kiss Fabian/Nathan's ass "continuously."

Hahahaha qft

Thanks on update that stealing is still profitable for you.

What's worse is he thinks he's being smart calling him that too.

You're going to see a lot of penises in the near future.

bump

8char

Mike's post above on this page was pretty interesting. The one that mentioned Feras Antoon and someone named David something having a meeting with the outside investors to buy out Fabians shares. That is pretty interesting. Whether it has any truth to it or not, it is still an interesting post. ;-)

I have yet to specifically say that you did. But Lichen didn't specifically reply to you and you felt the need to reply with what you did so likewise I did the same to you.

The weather is hot and humid this time of year but the potential for models out here is great! Its too bad companies can't afford to pay much for content anymore when I used to be able to throw money around I was pulling new models every week out here we have more strip clubs than most major cities combined full of hot girls. I may be recruiting girls for solo sites soon though I guess I can still make 50% of what I use to make shooting solo sites which still isn't that bad. Things sure change fast in the porn industry I was tired of spinning my wheels to maintain with such a high cost of living so I am back where I started. I am open to flying out to LA to shoot scenes when the need arises but right now for what clients want to pay its just not worth the risk and to be able to have decent gear its near impossible to keep up with such low profits. Going in house is what most smart companies are doing and letting the cheap guys use their gear.

I made the decision to move back after seeing the majority of my clients diminish as some stopped updating completely or just said that they can't afford to pay what they use to. I had a great run in LA the 5 years I lived there but I glad to be back home where I have family and I can live for 1/3 of the cost.

The major problem here is that there IS no "adult industry" per se. Instead what we have is a group of loosely-associated/interconnected freelancers and independant companies selling adult material. Some companies work together well, some do not, some business models work well, others no longer do. But to expect loyalty, fealty, honesty or anything resembling Industry-wide integrity is ignorant at best and childish at worst.

Companies (and people) generally do what's in their own best interest. So instead of realizing this, adapting accordingly and moving on with your life people spend endless hours complaining and nothing changes.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

Oh yes, how could I forget about all those wonderful tube sites that pay so much per scene that production is booming :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

My first association to that name it's this guy.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../4c/Dieter.jpg
What is your :upsidedow

i have no idea who that dude is...

but my uncles first name is Dieter

At the very least, this implies that things are not so rosy at the top, and Mansef management leftover, Feras Antoon (who declared himself as the de facto leader of Manwin while Fabian Thylmann was imprisoned), is scheming to cut out Fabian now that he has outlived his original purpose, and currently only brings shame and scorn upon Manwin.



What do you expect from a den of thieves?

:stoned

ADG

You guys also forgot about Keyser Soze.....

If Mike South stepped up and did some real reporting other than the typical Luke Ford muckraking hack job he seems comfortable with doing by just capitalizing on rumors and innuendos and insinuations then it would be another story.

For example... what if all the lay-offs at DP were the result of necessary fat trimming and clean up of inefficiencies and wasted expenses? That would not surprise me in the least. All the old school brick and mortar companies are/were guilty of it, including Homegrown.

What if Playboy not Manwin was responsible for the issues with Sirius? Speaking from experience, Playboy, even though they are wonderful in many respects, can be difficult to work with at times just because of their size and scope of what they do and how they want the brand represented.

Just because all Mike's little Manwin hating minions like to turn out in droves to try and beat the drums of revolt at any chance they can doesn't mean they actually have a valid reason for it. In fact, the very nature of a mob is the irrationality of the mentality.

I think if everyone knew both sides to the stories then they would take a very different tact. However, obviously it is easier to point a finger at "tubes" or whatever the excuse of the day is for not being successful than it is to actually figure out how to be successful given the resources and environment to do so. :2 cents: