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Jay-Rock 08-02-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Porno Dan (Post 19741908)
Thanks, but sales are tough these days and it takes a lot more to it than just being cost effective with my production costs :)

How is life back in the great state of Texas?

The weather is hot and humid this time of year but the potential for models out here is great! Its too bad companies can't afford to pay much for content anymore when I used to be able to throw money around I was pulling new models every week out here we have more strip clubs than most major cities combined full of hot girls. I may be recruiting girls for solo sites soon though I guess I can still make 50% of what I use to make shooting solo sites which still isn't that bad. Things sure change fast in the porn industry I was tired of spinning my wheels to maintain with such a high cost of living so I am back where I started. I am open to flying out to LA to shoot scenes when the need arises but right now for what clients want to pay its just not worth the risk and to be able to have decent gear its near impossible to keep up with such low profits. Going in house is what most smart companies are doing and letting the cheap guys use their gear.

I made the decision to move back after seeing the majority of my clients diminish as some stopped updating completely or just said that they can't afford to pay what they use to. I had a great run in LA the 5 years I lived there but I glad to be back home where I have family and I can live for 1/3 of the cost.

adultmobile 08-02-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19742897)

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The Porn Nerd 08-02-2013 10:37 AM

The major problem here is that there IS no "adult industry" per se. Instead what we have is a group of loosely-associated/interconnected freelancers and independant companies selling adult material. Some companies work together well, some do not, some business models work well, others no longer do. But to expect loyalty, fealty, honesty or anything resembling Industry-wide integrity is ignorant at best and childish at worst.

Companies (and people) generally do what's in their own best interest. So instead of realizing this, adapting accordingly and moving on with your life people spend endless hours complaining and nothing changes.

CaptainHowdy 08-02-2013 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19743302)

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

Porno Dan 08-02-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19741931)
Wow. I'm shocked to hear sales aren't easy. You would think with all these tubes (read: opportunities) people would be tripping over themselves to buy content so they can put up said content on the tubes and reap massive profits. The visionaries of our industry have done so much to make porn mainstream that we have all sorts of new customers now just waiting to hand over their money. I've been in the industry over 15 years and l would say this is definitely the Golden era of porn.

I don't think we can thank the tube visionaries like Fabian enough. We clearly owe them some gratitude for all the millions we are making these days.

I can't wait to see what the future brings! It's so nice to be out of the stone age days of online porn around 1999 when we were all making peanuts!

Oh yes, how could I forget about all those wonderful tube sites that pay so much per scene that production is booming :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Klen 08-02-2013 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19742479)
spelling "Dieter" as "Deiter" is like spelling "Bieber" as "Beiber".

just saying...

My first association to that name it's this guy.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../4c/Dieter.jpg
What is your :upsidedow

MaDalton 08-02-2013 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19743452)
My first association to that name it's this guy.
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__.../4c/Dieter.jpg
What is your :upsidedow

i have no idea who that dude is...

but my uncles first name is Dieter

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-02-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19742069)

so tell me Deiter what do you think of Feras Antoon and David Tassillo meeting with outside investors to raise money to buy out your stock?

At the very least, this implies that things are not so rosy at the top, and Mansef management leftover, Feras Antoon (who declared himself as the de facto leader of Manwin while Fabian Thylmann was imprisoned), is scheming to cut out Fabian now that he has outlived his original purpose, and currently only brings shame and scorn upon Manwin.



What do you expect from a den of thieves?

:stoned

ADG

Jman 08-02-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19742190)
You forgot Vassilis Kasilis and that other romanian guy constantin soize or so.

You guys also forgot about Keyser Soze.....

Far-L 08-02-2013 11:52 AM

If Mike South stepped up and did some real reporting other than the typical Luke Ford muckraking hack job he seems comfortable with doing by just capitalizing on rumors and innuendos and insinuations then it would be another story.

For example... what if all the lay-offs at DP were the result of necessary fat trimming and clean up of inefficiencies and wasted expenses? That would not surprise me in the least. All the old school brick and mortar companies are/were guilty of it, including Homegrown.

What if Playboy not Manwin was responsible for the issues with Sirius? Speaking from experience, Playboy, even though they are wonderful in many respects, can be difficult to work with at times just because of their size and scope of what they do and how they want the brand represented.

Just because all Mike's little Manwin hating minions like to turn out in droves to try and beat the drums of revolt at any chance they can doesn't mean they actually have a valid reason for it. In fact, the very nature of a mob is the irrationality of the mentality.

I think if everyone knew both sides to the stories then they would take a very different tact. However, obviously it is easier to point a finger at "tubes" or whatever the excuse of the day is for not being successful than it is to actually figure out how to be successful given the resources and environment to do so. :2 cents:

Klen 08-02-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19743496)
If Mike South stepped up and did some real reporting other than the typical Luke Ford muckraking hack job he seems comfortable with doing by just capitalizing on rumors and innuendos and insinuations then it would be another story.

For example... what if all the lay-offs at DP were the result of necessary fat trimming and clean up of inefficiencies and wasted expenses? That would not surprise me in the least. All the old school brick and mortar companies are/were guilty of it, including Homegrown.

What if Playboy not Manwin was responsible for the issues with Sirius? Speaking from experience, Playboy, even though they are wonderful in many respects, can be difficult to work with at times just because of their size and scope of what they do and how they want the brand represented.

Just because all Mike's little Manwin hating minions like to turn out in droves to try and beat the drums of revolt at any chance they can doesn't mean they actually have a valid reason for it. In fact, the very nature of a mob is the irrationality of the mentality.

I think if everyone knew both sides to the stories then they would take a very different tact. However, obviously it is easier to point a finger at "tubes" or whatever the excuse of the day is for not being successful than it is to actually figure out how to be successful given the resources and environment to do so. :2 cents:

Yes indeed,real reporter always get response from both parties in stories,while this is just call for lynch.

MaDalton 08-02-2013 11:57 AM

i dont think this had ever anything to do with journalism anyways

mikesouth 08-02-2013 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19743496)
If Mike South stepped up and did some real reporting other than the typical Luke Ford muckraking hack job he seems comfortable with doing by just capitalizing on rumors and innuendos and insinuations then it would be another story.

For example... what if all the lay-offs at DP were the result of necessary fat trimming and clean up of inefficiencies and wasted expenses? That would not surprise me in the least. All the old school brick and mortar companies are/were guilty of it, including Homegrown.

What if Playboy not Manwin was responsible for the issues with Sirius? Speaking from experience, Playboy, even though they are wonderful in many respects, can be difficult to work with at times just because of their size and scope of what they do and how they want the brand represented.

Just because all Mike's little Manwin hating minions like to turn out in droves to try and beat the drums of revolt at any chance they can doesn't mean they actually have a valid reason for it. In fact, the very nature of a mob is the irrationality of the mentality.

I think if everyone knew both sides to the stories then they would take a very different tact. However, obviously it is easier to point a finger at "tubes" or whatever the excuse of the day is for not being successful than it is to actually figure out how to be successful given the resources and environment to do so. :2 cents:

for the record Playboy and Sirus had a good relationship, so much so that the former guy in charge at Playboy is now in charge at Sirus.....starting to get the picture Far-L?

I do my homework....

and of course its financial restructuring that doesnt make me wrong, thats all I have ever said it is, Manwin is losing money they have to plug the dike and go back to what makes them money....content theft.

Funny thing about these massive layoffs that Fabian says didnt happen...Im gettin an awful lot of former Manwin employees dishing on them......in addition to some current ones.

I have a mountain of things to investigate now.....

Nathan 08-02-2013 12:50 PM

Sorry, another gfy day I guess.. Lol. Or evening..

I posted the number of people let go in the last 6 months. You still have not said what you call "massive"!

Far-l, the problem that companies like Manwin have is that they can not even tell their side of the story if they wanted to, because they actually follow rules and usually have NDAs with everyone signed.

It is however interesting to watch mike try to put things together and what comes out from it. :) obviously normal when you only hear half the story. But with mike it is just sad that he does not CARE about the other side so he does not even try, since all he cares about is to hurt Manwin. If there actually would be a positive thing or explanation he has to ignore it.

Like he did with his story about the job posting. He still claims on his blog that it was DP, yet he got told by the actual posting company that it was not... Shows how he "reports"... :)

It is entertaining though.,

Colmike9 08-02-2013 01:26 PM

I'd like to know of a company that is as big as Manwin in good standing that hasn't fired/laid off anyone, or a company where there are no complaints from employees who were let go. That just doesn't make sense...

Far-L 08-02-2013 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19743533)
for the record Playboy and Sirus had a good relationship, so much so that the former guy in charge at Playboy is now in charge at Sirus.....starting to get the picture Far-L?

I do my homework....

and of course its financial restructuring that doesnt make me wrong, thats all I have ever said it is, Manwin is losing money they have to plug the dike and go back to what makes them money....content theft.

Funny thing about these massive layoffs that Fabian says didnt happen...Im gettin an awful lot of former Manwin employees dishing on them......in addition to some current ones.

I have a mountain of things to investigate now.....

I am not sure you can make that claim without seeing bank records. How do you know DP wasn't the one "losing money" in the first place and Manwin actually might have just turned them into a profitable entity by cutting out the flab.

mikesouth 08-02-2013 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19743919)
I am not sure you can make that claim without seeing bank records. How do you know DP wasn't the one "losing money" in the first place and Manwin actually might have just turned them into a profitable entity by cutting out the flab.


you seem to forget I have a long long relationship with DP and have friends who were there pre manwin....you can what if it to death but the writing on the wall is plain enough to read.

you implied I dont talk to people You are wrong i talk DAILY at the very least to people and Playboy as well as people at Manwin owned companies I try to get answers from fabian who prefers to deflect rather than answer....do that and I take that as your answer....

If you are beholden to Manwin for whatever reason, I get that, Im not, donny long was nowhere near the threat that Manwin is and I didnt let up on him either....It aint my nature.

There are people who are benefiting from my Manwin info I hope that in the long run I play some small part in Fabians incarceration and Manwins demise if I dont...at least I tried.

You got a dog in this race I get it...I dont....

Far-L 08-02-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Nathan (Post 19743607)
Far-l, the problem that companies like Manwin have is that they can not even tell their side of the story if they wanted to, because they actually follow rules and usually have NDAs with everyone signed.

I know. I am well-acquainted with the issues in situations like this as I think any company in the industry that actually runs like a real business is probably also equally familiar.

These situations are like being in a fight where your one hand is tied behind your back and your opponent is given a club and few friends to help hold you down.

Far-L 08-02-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19743925)
you seem to forget I have a long long relationship with DP and have friends who were there pre manwin....you can what if it to death but the writing on the wall is plain enough to read.

you implied I dont talk to people You are wrong i talk DAILY at the very least to people and Playboy as well as people at Manwin owned companies I try to get answers from fabian who prefers to deflect rather than answer....do that and I take that as your answer....

If you are beholden to Manwin for whatever reason, I get that, Im not, donny long was nowhere near the threat that Manwin is and I didnt let up on him either....It aint my nature.

There are people who are benefiting from my Manwin info I hope that in the long run I play some small part in Fabians incarceration and Manwins demise if I dont...at least I tried.

You got a dog in this race I get it...I dont....

You definitely have a dog in the race if you are earning on the traffic you generate from the hub bub. Don't pretend otherwise. You milk this to churn the butter to spread on your bread, man. The only way you could claim otherwise is to drop all the ads.

I do business with them but it isn't like posting in GFY is going to get us any sort of discount on the traffic we buy or special placements or anything else for that matter. We had to climb the same learning curve everyone else has. We have had to prove our mettle in the same fire as everyone else.

No one is benefiting from your innuendos, trust me, and your innuendos toward me and my relationship with them are nothing more than bluster and hot air as well. Seriously, at this point you are like McCarthy was to commies - there is a conspiracy everywhere and the people have somehow chosen you as the champion. Show me a company that doesn't have disgruntled ex employees that saw themselves as the centers of success even though they were the eye of the hurricane that was tearing the company apart.

I am sure that I wasn't the only one to go to the blog, ready for big breaking news, and realize it was pretty much nothing. Especially cast against the news that Manwin was buying up one of the top destinations on the internet and had more employees in one office than ten other adult companies combined.

The Donny Incident might have been your Luke Ford style lucky break to actually have something worth investigating and reporting. It would be nice to see you return to that level of integrity in fact finding that you once exhibited.

mikesouth 08-02-2013 07:34 PM

we will see what you say in about six months...bookmark this

as for the ads on my blog LOL they dont generate enough revenue to even begin to pay for the hosting.....and the traffic actually costs me money, without it I dont need the server Im using....and as for ad revenue just try to buy an ad from me if you promote piracy or any manwin product...try again your logic failed....

Grapesoda 08-02-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 19743502)
Yes indeed,real reporter always get response from both parties in stories,while this is just call for lynch.

not so much anymore... think trayvon and Zimmerman :2 cents:

Far-L 08-02-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19743978)
we will see what you say in about six months...bookmark this

as for the ads on my blog LOL they dont generate enough revenue to even begin to pay for the hosting.....and the traffic actually costs me money, without it I dont need the server Im using....and as for ad revenue just try to buy an ad from me if you promote piracy or any manwin product...try again your logic failed....

Ok, prove me wrong. What exactly is going to happen in six months that is going to make me go "wow, Mike really had this one pegged". Not saying it, leaving it as vague as "something big is going to happen", well, that is absurd. In the life cycles of every business and industry on earth something "big" happens every six months at least.

Because if you are just guessing about something big happening then maybe you shouldn't treat it as a foregone conclusion because so far that just doesn't seem to be holding up for you. You have always had my friendship and I have always upheld your credibility but lately I find myself in question of that credibility and hoping my critique doesn't effect our friendship.

mikesouth 08-02-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19743996)
Ok, prove me wrong. What exactly is going to happen in six months that is going to make me go "wow, Mike really had this one pegged". Not saying it, leaving it as vague as "something big is going to happen", well, that is absurd. In the life cycles of every business and industry on earth something "big" happens every six months at least.

Because if you are just guessing about something big happening then maybe you shouldn't treat it as a foregone conclusion because so far that just doesn't seem to be holding up for you. You have always had my friendship and I have always upheld your credibility but lately I find myself in question of that credibility and hoping my critique doesn't effect our friendship.


OK you are either an idiot or you think I am.

I will break it when the time is right....The time is not yet right and I am not yet at liberty....
as for our friendship I can disagree without going to war with ya LOl

Captain Kawaii 08-02-2013 08:13 PM

straight companies... thats some funny stuff

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1117307

mikesouth 08-02-2013 08:48 PM

BTW Far-L I got to thinking and remembering the times I had with you guys...seriously they were the most fun I have had in Los Angeles....and some great ones in Vegas too....that was back when the biz was fun. I will never forget the shoot in Vegas that went a little haywire and you were impressed with my quick thinking...or the shoot with anna malle and melissa hill....both of whom i was friends with....still am with melissa I miss anna ... a lot.

too bad porn valley turned into the cesspool it did but I was there when it was fun

and however you may feel about it you did give me my start so all these guys that send me death threats can blame you LOL

Far-L 08-02-2013 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19744003)
OK you are either an idiot or you think I am.

I will break it when the time is right....The time is not yet right and I am not yet at liberty....
as for our friendship I can disagree without going to war with ya LOl

The answer is both.

I would be an idiot to fall for the "this is going to be huge" tagline. And you are a moron if you don't just withhold stuff until the time is right instead of hyping it potentially too soon or unnecessarily in the long run.

Not going to hurt you either way. Fancy that. Six months from now I will have completely forgotten this thread even happened; so I won't remember to ask you if your story broke or not.

Or six months from now, something happens and you get to jump out as say "I told you so!" (only it won't be a surprise because I too can predict that something major will happen every six months or so - hold on - looking in my crystal ball.... there will be major news in processing that will shock everyone!)

Safe play for you either way. How convenient.

Far-L 08-02-2013 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19744027)
BTW Far-L I got to thinking and remembering the times I had with you guys...seriously they were the most fun I have had in Los Angeles....and some great ones in Vegas too....that was back when the biz was fun. I will never forget the shoot in Vegas that went a little haywire and you were impressed with my quick thinking...or the shoot with anna malle and melissa hill....both of whom i was friends with....still am with melissa I miss anna ... a lot.

too bad porn valley turned into the cesspool it did but I was there when it was fun

and however you may feel about it you did give me my start so all these guys that send me death threats can blame you LOL

Many thanks -we may have helped you get your start but you have made yourself what you are and we are just a small part of it. Totally honor and respect your iconoclasm and self sufficiency and even if I disagree with you sometimes I certainly respect your intelligence through and through. :thumbsup

mikesouth 08-02-2013 10:43 PM

In all honesty Far-L I get what you are saying but I am involved in things right now that I simply cannot talk about. You will understand at some point.....It will be sooner than 6 months...that was just an arbitrary time span....other things may take even longer....sometimes wheels turn slowly...but they do turn.

adultmobile 08-03-2013 08:38 AM

We need more bitcoin threads, and less manwin threads, please.

Far-L 08-03-2013 10:12 AM

Here is an email I received that I promised to post to GFY:

On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Verbal Diarrhea <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't think you have the slightest idea who Mike South knows and who is dishing dirt to him.

Your assumptions and ass kissing is cute.

I'd be a little less vocal about it tho, just saying.

- vd

My response:

Actually I know a lot more than you realize so maybe you are the one making the mistake concerning what I assume to know or not know. I just don't know who you are and you are obviously too much of a pussy to actually identify yourself to say this to me. Mike must be proud to know he has weaselly little anon minions like you trying to fight his battles for him though.

I am going to post this to that thread though just to let Mike know that he has tough talking, anon little turds running around trying to protect him from people like me. If you knew anything then you would know that Mike and I are actually quite friendly with each other and have known each other since we bought his first video for Homegrown and helped launch his career in adult.

The sorry part is you claim I am the one kissing ass. You have your tongue so far up Mike's bung right now that if he tried to say anything it would come out sounding like you. :321GFY

signupdamnit 08-03-2013 10:18 AM

People talk bad about Mike South and sometimes maybe he does reach a bit BUT he breaks three times as many big stories as any other adult news site. And that's pretty good considering a lot of the other guys are likely in bed with the players they report about.

mikesouth 08-03-2013 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 19744510)
People talk bad about Mike South and sometimes maybe he does reach a bit BUT he breaks three times as many big stories as any other adult news site. And that's pretty good considering a lot of the other guys are likely in bed with the players they report about.

Thanks man and remember them guys have lots of employees and Im just one guy workin it like a one armed wall paper hanger LOL

mikesouth 08-03-2013 10:39 AM

Far-L Vd is right on the point that you have NO IDEA who is dishing to me.....I have excellent and extraordinary sources. For all my posturing, without those sources Id just be another AVN or XBiz running press releases.....

mikesouth 08-03-2013 10:53 AM

Case in point...if you get yer news from avn or xbiz you dont know that the judge has denied the motion to remove ahf from vivids condom lawsuit.....If you read me you knew it last night as soon as it came down.

Far-L 08-03-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19744539)
Far-L Vd is right on the point that you have NO IDEA who is dishing to me.....I have excellent and extraordinary sources. For all my posturing, without those sources Id just be another AVN or XBiz running press releases.....

My point is I don't care what information you are privy to. It would only matter if you were like a real journalist that didn't rely on anonymous sources and everyone saying anything could be held accountable for their opinions, experiences, perceptions, etc. That is the way real fact finding and real reporting work, at least when I was in school.

Otherwise it is just gossip mongering and witch hunting, unsubstantiated and vindictive, and that is why I am disappointed not by what you are trying to do but by how you are going about trying to do it.

I think you are intelligent enough to raise your standards. If you don't then how are you any different from every other vindictive blogger out there with some score to settle? On that level, it is easy to attract the malcontents that support your grievances and will tell you what you want to hear.

adultmobile 08-03-2013 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19744539)
I have excellent and extraordinary sources.

A main issue with your info, it is that even if some may be new and true, you pollute it with cheesy copy and paste from googled company and accountant names of whois registrations, along with naive assumptions, some of which end up to be not just wrong, but quite funny, for people who (for example) know who Vassilli Kasssillii (and few others you put in conspiracy theory) are.

A secondary issue, it is that your info comes only from those few people who decide to contact you and tell you things because of their agenda. This is a part of info, so it is partial by definition. People with different agenda may not contact you (or not even read you at all). I suppose you are not contacting yourself people with information (but different, or no agenda), because just for example, more than once I clearly stated I know people or facts you talked (approximately or wrongly) about - but you never contacted me to ask anything. By logic, you contact no one else who shows to know the facts you talk about, unless he write you first in compliance with your agenda.

Disclaimer: I may be wrong, I have no scoop info on Mike South. I know lots of other stuff however :)

Far-L 08-03-2013 05:53 PM

Mike

Thanks a lot, now you went and encouraged your anon minion to annoy me further with more drivel. I would have expected you to leash your puppy before it was fully house trained as well as socialized and ready for the GFY off leash dog park.

Here he goes again:

Quote:

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Verbal Diarrhea <[email protected]> wrote:
Wow, you are truly an idiot.

No, you don't have the faintest idea. If you did you wouldn't have ran your mouth like you did.

To bad you don't have this overreaction to the people destroying your business, industry, etc.

- vd

mikesouth 08-03-2013 07:21 PM

hey dont blame me because you got called out in your effort to glorify yourself.

mikesouth 08-03-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by adultmobile (Post 19744855)
A main issue with your info, it is that even if some may be new and true, you pollute it with cheesy copy and paste from googled company and accountant names of whois registrations, along with naive assumptions, some of which end up to be not just wrong, but quite funny, for people who (for example) know who Vassilli Kasssillii (and few others you put in conspiracy theory) are.

A secondary issue, it is that your info comes only from those few people who decide to contact you and tell you things because of their agenda. This is a part of info, so it is partial by definition. People with different agenda may not contact you (or not even read you at all). I suppose you are not contacting yourself people with information (but different, or no agenda), because just for example, more than once I clearly stated I know people or facts you talked (approximately or wrongly) about - but you never contacted me to ask anything. By logic, you contact no one else who shows to know the facts you talk about, unless he write you first in compliance with your agenda.

Disclaimer: I may be wrong, I have no scoop info on Mike South. I know lots of other stuff however :)


If you want the whitewashed, sanitized, press release versions where everyone agrees and everyone is happy because Topco is moving to a new location you shouldn't be reading my blog AVN and XBiz are more to your taste.

Im a blogger not a journalist, i write op/ed pieces and those opinions are mine and sometimes those of my readers. Im often first to break news because for one I protect my sources and for two if a source is reliable I dont have to call Steve Hirsch and ask him if Vivid is signing Mia Malkova or if their new celebrity sex tape is Myla Sinanaj because he aint gonna tell me the truth anyway.

Before I run something i try to verify it usually I can but it wont be on the record, and I take into account whether or not someone may have an axe to grind, but just because they have an axe to grind doesnt make the info wrong...It just means i feel a need to check it out more.

Any of you who dont like my site....theres a cure...dont fuckin read it, block me, I could care less....matter of fact send me yer IP and i will put a deny from directive in the .htaccess file.

those who do like it...yer the reason Im doing it, damn glad to have ya

Marcus Aurelius 08-03-2013 07:53 PM

Far-L is a silly cunt.


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