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Tom_PM 08-01-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19741911)
From an unemployable, intellectual pussy on food stamps, posing as a PimpRoll employee who is incapable of citing facts to back up an absurd premise thats an obvious lie.
:2 cents:

Listen, I don't know why your dick is so stiff for my ass but let me just say to you that while I was on foodstamps for a while and posted about it here, I've never been on any other welfare and I've been gainfully employed for quite a long time now. You're revealing what a jackass you are with these constant trolling attempts. My employer knows who he or she is and who is getting paid for their work and you never will.

Chris Serino, lead detective in the George Zimmerman case in his initial police report called for MURDER charges, and finally reduced his recommendation to MANSLAUGHTER. Anyone with half a brain (which counts you out, sorry champ) can search it up "initial police report by detective serino" and have fun with that little fact. It was the FIRED police chief who decided not to do it and made people go nuts for Zimmermans arrest which got the governor involved.

So, for those people parroting misinformation about this, the initial police report DID NOT CLEAR Zimmerman, it called for his arrest for manslaughter after being edited down from murder. Go read it.

Go look for a new target.

:pimp

Just Alex 08-01-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19741939)
maybe if trayvon had been doing his homework??? just sayin'...... you know?

Homework? Wasn't "no limit nigga" suspended from school at the time?

Tom_PM 08-01-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19741923)
So if Trayvon was white and not wearing a hoodie, Zimmerman would have followed him? Don't kid yourself.

Also, if Zimmerman was black and Trayvon was white, would it still not be about race in your eyes?

....and Ted Nugent is an ignorant asshole.

Speculation decides nothing and only leads to more speculation My answer? Who the hell can know. It was not part of this case. Let another jury decide it and I'll stand by our system in that case too, just like I have with this one.

Tom_PM 08-01-2013 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19741912)
The fired police chief stated he swore to uphold Florida law when he took office and under Florida law there was nothing to charge Zimmerman with. Blacks raise hell, he gets fired, a black police chief is instilled in his place.

Then a Florida jury finds Zimmerman is indeed not guilty under Florida law. Fired police chief was correct.

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That's correct. His lead detective however who interviewed the suspect Zimmerman recommended first murder and then manslaughter in his final report. I understand the police chiefs role as well, but in the end he was removed, fired and replaced. I have no opinion on that and it can speak for itself. You can read interviews with him online.

however I don't agree that it makes him correct. A trial is PART of our justice system! We don't pre-judge. If we did, then everyone arrested is guilty and if you're not in custody you're innocent. He SHOULD have had his trial and finally he did, which is FAR better than the alternative if we're speculating on what might have happened if there were no charges.

L-Pink 08-01-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 19741962)

however I don't agree that it makes him correct. A trial is PART of our justice system! We don't pre-judge. If we did, then everyone arrested is guilty and if you're not in custody you're innocent. He SHOULD have had his trial and finally he did, which is FAR better than the alternative if we're speculating on what might have happened if there were no charges.

Yea, I see your point.

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TheSquealer 08-01-2013 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 19741949)

Chris Serino, lead detective in the George Zimmerman case in his initial police report called for MURDER charges, and finally reduced his recommendation to MANSLAUGHTER. Anyone with half a brain (which counts you out, sorry champ) can search it up "initial police report by detective serino" and have fun with that little fact. It was the FIRED police chief who decided not to do it and made people go nuts for Zimmermans arrest which got the governor involved.


:pimp

Right, the same investigator that testified under oath in court, that Zimmermans explanation was believable and Zimmerman credible.

One more witness for the prosecution of many... who ended up devastating the prosecutions case and helping the defense.

Sooooooooooooooooooooo.. to address your first lie = "no one looked into it" or however you put it - implying that there was no extensive investigation, you've proven yourself a liar. There was an investigation and several detectives believed there was enough to press murder charges. The police chief didn't. The state didn't. Detectives did. You know.. detectives.. the guys who aren't lawyers?

The evidence was presented to the prosecutors office... you know, the guys who actually has to take it to trial and win and the prosecutor knew it was a losing case. Hence, no charges were filed.

So there is no argument that "no one looked into it" as you put it as the case was thoroughly investigated and reviewed and went all the way to the FBI well before the governor insisted on appointing a special investigator, ignoring the standard practice of taking the evidence to a grand jury and before any charges were filed.

TheSquealer 08-01-2013 11:50 AM

And since you don't get it Tom, the entire case hinged on a single piece of evidence (with respect to the Murder 2 charge)... and thats whether or not what was said on the 911 call could convince a jury that he was acting of ill will, hatred, spite etc AND of a depraved mind. Thats why no charges were filed. There was no evidence to prove that beyond a reasonable doubt.

All you have to do is listen to the 311 call and hear what is basically a dopey dipshit, acting very calmly and calling in suspicious activity as he'd done 45 times or so before.

The detectives i believe were also of the opinion that he should have identified himself, should have talked to him etc. and that was the basis for their feelings on the situation. BUT that all has nothing to do with proving what Zimmerman was thinking when he was attacked (as detectives admittedly believed he was) BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT in a court of law.... which is why charges weren't filed. The detectives felt manslaughter was possible, but also admitted Zimmerman was credible and his story believable... which creates a problem when it comes to pressing charges.

Grapesoda 08-01-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 19741962)
That's correct. His lead detective however who interviewed the suspect Zimmerman recommended first murder and then manslaughter in his final report. I understand the police chiefs role as well, but in the end he was removed, fired and replaced. I have no opinion on that and it can speak for itself. You can read interviews with him online.

however I don't agree that it makes him correct. A trial is PART of our justice system! We don't pre-judge. If we did, then everyone arrested is guilty and if you're not in custody you're innocent. He SHOULD have had his trial and finally he did, which is FAR better than the alternative if we're speculating on what might have happened if there were no charges.

look the entire case was politically motivated with heavy political agenda, EVERYTHING was prejudged ... even the police chief was fired over this case... even the black president and black AG got involved.. . how much more fucked up could it possibly get?

GFED 08-01-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 19741694)
The whole shitstorm started when they didn't even think it was worth looking into. Then the community of the killed person got pissed and made noise. People will just have to get over it one at a time in their own good time.

There was nothing racist about it. You don't have to hate someone to blow a hole in their chest with a hollow point bullet. You don't have to dislike them, you don't even have to have eyeballs to know what race they are. You can just extend your arm straight out and pull the trigger and they die. That's what this case was about more than race.

I saw Nugent back in the 70's when he was promoting cats can haz scratching fever. Since then he hasn't had much worth listening to and we all know it but don't all admit it.

Just curious why you point out the type of ammunition as to being a hollow point is because you think it is too devastating of a round and shouldn't be used?

Common practice for self defense with firearms is to use hollow point ammunition because of the stopping force and tendency to mushroom as to not over penetrate the target. It is also common practice to have a full magazine with a round in the chamber but this also has been misconstrued as unsafe or someone looking for trouble.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 08-01-2013 02:47 PM

George Zimmerman is in a hurry, going nowhere fast...stopped for speeding in Texas.



"Nowhere in particular"... :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

L-Pink 08-01-2013 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GFED (Post 19742223)
Just curious why you point out the type of ammunition as to being a hollow point is because you think it is too devastating of a round and shouldn't be used?

Common practice for self defense with firearms is to use hollow point ammunition because of the stopping force and tendency to mushroom as to not over penetrate the target. It is also common practice to have a full magazine with a round in the chamber but this also has been misconstrued as unsafe or someone looking for trouble.

Also hollow points don't go thru your target and hit someone else.


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GFED 08-01-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19742234)
George Zimmerman is in a hurry, going nowhere fast...stopped for speeding in Texas.

"Nowhere in particular"... :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

It's typical to get pulled over if you're driving with out of state license even if you're going only 5 MPH over the limit. It's not enough to validate a ticket or the paperwork, so they'll usually let you off with a warning after they run your name if it comes back clean. I'm sure he would have been hassled more if he had California plates. Texas cops hate people from California.

Also beware of those small towns that you run into while driving down a highway and the speed limit suddenly goes from 55 MPH to 35 MPH. The cops in those areas don't give warnings and are just waiting to give out as many tickets as they can.

DWB 08-01-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19741551)
From

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/enter...holder-racist#

sigh...



I wish he would just shut the fuck up.

Don't blame Ted, blame the media for repeating what he says.

Grapesoda 08-01-2013 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19742246)
Also hollow points don't go thru your target and hit someone else.


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exactly, this why I have a 1911... don't want a high velocity projectile like a 9mm... lived in an apartment at the time.. didn't want to hurt any of my neighbors..... thought about getting glasers in fact

'The company produces bullets in calibers from .25 to .45 for pistols and from .223 to .30-06 for rifles. Each caliber comes in two forms, "blue" and "silver", the latter having greater penetrating power due to the use of no. 6 birdshot rather than no. 12.

The projectile in the cartridge is of a much lighter weight than more conventional types of cartridges and so the projectiles exit the bore at significantly higher muzzle velocities. The current bullet has a core of very tightly packed lead pellets. On impact, the bullet fractures along manufactured stress lines in the jacket?imparting all the bullet's energy very quickly rather than over-penetrating a target or ricocheting on a miss. The extreme light weight and fragility of the projectile make it unsuitable for long range firing or against protected targets.

'The bullet design can produce large shallow wounds in flesh while failing to pass through structural barriers thicker than drywall or sheet metal.[4][5] These qualities make it less likely to strike unintended targets, such as people in another room during an indoor shooting. Also, when it strikes a hard surface from which a solid bullet would glance off, it fragments into tiny, light pieces and creates much less ricochet danger.'

'The United States Federal Air Marshal Service tested and used the Glaser Safety Slug extensively in the 1970s and 80s on board commercial passenger aircraft to defend against hijackers. Air Marshals are now issued SIG Sauer P229 pistols with a 12 round capacity firing conventional jacketed hollow point ammunition in .357 SIG caliber'

-very many gun owners are very responsible :2 cents:

RKLover 08-01-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19741656)
Man, you sure called that one....

Born in Detroit and lived most of his life in Detroit and Chicago, spent a lot of time in L.A., and has traveled all over the world for decades throughout his career.....

.... typical redneck.

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Not a big thing, other than to all the Detroiter's he has offended over the years. Nugent's not from Detroit, nor was he born there. The guy was born and raised in Redford, Michigan. Nugent moved to Palatine, out in the northwest Chicago suburbs, when he was 14.

Grapesoda 08-01-2013 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19742234)
George Zimmerman is in a hurry, going nowhere fast...stopped for speeding in Texas.



"Nowhere in particular"... :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

maybe if the press, and the black grievance lobby had distorted the truth about you and turned black America and all the white liberals against you... you might be in a hurry to go nowhere as well... just sayin'.... you know? oh but wait!!! I forgot you believe everything you see on TV... keep on vapin' bro :thumbsup

baddog 08-01-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19742234)
George Zimmerman is in a hurry, going nowhere fast...stopped for speeding in Texas.



"Nowhere in particular"... :1orglaugh

:stoned

ADG

Never driven in TX I guess

SuckOnThis 08-01-2013 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19741888)
Because only an idiot thinks banging teens makes one a pedophile?

What kind of sick fuck are you to think its ok to have sex with 12 year olds?


Courtney Love phoned into the Howard Stern Show on Monday before eventually coming into the studio where she made the shocking allegation that one of the first times she had oral sex was with Ted Nugent. She said she was young and she didn?t want to say exactly how old she was, but eventually confessed she was 12-year-old ? which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time.


http://www.examiner.com/article/romn...-says-so-video


http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/...key=1334724077

baddog 08-01-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19742275)
What kind of sick fuck are you to think its ok to have sex with 12 year olds?


Courtney Love phoned into the Howard Stern Show on Monday before eventually coming into the studio where she made the shocking allegation that one of the first times she had oral sex was with Ted Nugent. She said she was young and she didn?t want to say exactly how old she was, but eventually confessed she was 12-year-old ? which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time.


http://www.examiner.com/article/romn...-says-so-video


http://cdn.crooksandliars.com/files/...key=1334724077

Does she look 12 in that pic to you?

SuckOnThis 08-01-2013 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19742292)
Does she look 12 in that pic to you?

Two completely different girls. Can you not read??

She said she was young and she didn?t want to say exactly how old she was, but eventually confessed she was 12-year-old ? which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time.

Grapesoda 08-01-2013 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19742296)
Two completely different girls. Can you not read??

She said she was young and she didn?t want to say exactly how old she was, but eventually confessed she was 12-year-old ? which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time.

maybe you'd like him better if he rolled through the 'hood' and shot a bunch of kids and shit in the back from his car???

SuckOnThis 08-01-2013 03:54 PM

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-YuHdVWjx-0..._-21-19_56.jpg


http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/l...psd10cc1d3.jpg

CDSmith 08-01-2013 04:15 PM

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Nugent continued to comment on Jesse Jackson, Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton and other black panthers calling them “racist scam masters” and their followers “stupid.”

He's spot on with that particular comment though. Wrong about a lot of things I'm sure, but not this.

Dvae 08-01-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 19742275)
What kind of sick fuck are you to think its ok to have sex with 12 year olds?


Courtney Love phoned into the Howard Stern Show on Monday before eventually coming into the studio where she made the shocking allegation that one of the first times she had oral sex was with Ted Nugent. She said she was young and she didn?t want to say exactly how old she was, but eventually confessed she was 12-year-old ? which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time.


Please, get with the program!
Your hero Bill Clinton said oral sex is not sex.

Dvae 08-01-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19741916)
That's not racism. That's Justice.

Not you too?
First Rochard then ADG and now you.
What are you guys smokin'?

TheSquealer 08-01-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19742440)
Not you too?
First Rochard then ADG and now you.
What are you guys smokin'?

Sly is a dick

mineistaken 08-01-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19741551)
I wish he would just shut the fuck up.

truth hurts?

mineistaken 08-01-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19741950)
Homework? Wasn't "no limit nigga" suspended from school at the time?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Its funny that there are still some morons who think that there was anything wrong in what hero did. I mean it was not ideal (nobody is ideal), but everything was 100% justified and legit.

Seth Manson 08-01-2013 06:34 PM

Pssst.... you guys are letting a Canadian get you stirred up again

mineistaken 08-01-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19742485)
Pssst.... you guys are letting a Canadian get you stirred up again

And some white guilt Canadian judging by how he defends dope smoking bus driver beating school trouble maker gun future owner jewelry thief and so on criminal thug that was shot in justified situation by an upstanding citizen.

ThunderBalls 08-01-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 19742438)
Please, get with the program!
Your hero Bill Clinton said oral sex is not sex.

Do you RWNJ's always defend people who have sex with kids or just when it suits your agenda? If Rush shoved his cock in a 10 year olds face would you be bringing up Clinton? Guess so since thats what you're doing now.

2MuchMark 08-01-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19741552)
so you start a thread quoting the guy you wish woud shut up.

Yes.

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19741740)
Bullshit; it was investigated and found to be no crime . . . kind of like what the jury said. Dumb ass.

Zimmerman went out of his way to confront Treyvon Martin. With a gun. Had he he taken the advice of the 911 operator, had he left his gun at home instead of taking it with him, Martin would still be alive. Zimmerman's actions alone killed a kid. The fact that it was "Legal" is no longer the point.


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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19741671)
it makes sense to you that someone who *wishes* nugent to shut-up would start a thread about what the guy says and provide link juice to the article with a link?

:upsidedow

The link to the article is the very first line in my post.

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19741888)
Because only an idiot thinks banging teens makes one a pedophile?

That's what NUGE called himself:

http://www.roctober.com/roctober/behindthemusic1.html


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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 19741899)
Well.. double dumb ass on you..

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ass_on_you.jpg


Ted the overcompensator:


GFED 08-01-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19742618)
Zimmerman's actions alone killed a kid.

Yes, the actions of a juvenile delinquent repeatedly smashing a persons head into a concrete surface had nothing to do with it.

mineistaken 08-02-2013 05:07 AM

One more tool calling this useless to society criminal thug a kid :1orglaugh

Grapesoda 08-02-2013 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19742618)
Yes.



how do you figure calling Jackson, Sharpton, holden for furthering their careers on black racism, a racist remark? it's the complete fucking truth ... WTF is wrong with you?:2 cents:

let me guess: if one of the black messiahs had pulled the same trick to get out of nam he would have been a hero for fucking off the 'man' and not fighting in his 'war, right'?

mineistaken 08-02-2013 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19742993)
how do you figure calling Jackson, Sharpton, holden for furthering their careers on black racism, a racist remark? it's the complete fucking truth ... WTF is wrong with you?:2 cents:

We all know there are no black racists. I mean criminal and racist scum such as Malcom X even has streets named after him.


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