True story, I pitched that EXACT idea to a few of the larger companies back in 2008 - 2009 and they straight up LAUGHED, I ALMOST went ahead and made packages anyway but second guessed myself.

Also wanted to do a series of solo sites complete with cam shows (recorded of course) daily blog, etc etc, I still may do the solo site concept one day I think it could be a huge draw IF done correctly.....

Imagine a 3D Toon solo site where the members tell the "model" what they want to see, and within a short time that content goes up, it could be treated exactly like a real girl solo site just with the twist of it being 3D Toons.

On novelty alone it would make decent money, the long term money would come from the user interactivity you give the members when you allow them to 'direct' the model.

(Any one runs with that give me a damn cut lol)

-Loki-

Have you tried any of the "Govt cheese" assistance programs? I mean if some of these people who dont deserve get it then you should try to get it...

Of course he should get it. His family and he have been no doubt paying into it since the 30's if they're been Americans for that long.

When I got foodstamps, all I had to do was apply online then send them pay stubs and lease (they sent the card within 2 days anyway without proof of income and expense). Welfare has emergency aid where you can get it same day if you have an actual eviction notice. Varies by state.

Bump for you, Loki!

All the best, Loki ...

Loki, I paid you money to advertise our sites on your 3d site. You never did the advertising, citing issues and delays and now I have emailed you recently asking you for my money back (since you never did do the work) and you stopped answering my emails. Why?

With the quality of your stuff being as high as it is Loki, once you get back on your feet you should think about designing and launching your own adult video game. Now I don't claim to know how to do that exactly or what it all might entail, but if you do and you decide to go that route you'll need writers. I want you to know that I will work with you on anything like that anytime.

And your stuff speaks for itself, no other self promotion needed. Looks like you have a few bites on this thread pending so that getting back on your feet shouldn't be too long.

So much for all my years with no drama lol.

Julia I don't mean to joke about your post, I can only assume you did not get the last few emails I sent to you, or the message I sent to your account in Utherverse.

As I said in those emails (that I never heard back from you about) I'm more then happy to get you a full refund.

If you have Skype please add: LokiPorn or email me at: 3dloki(@) gmail(.)com, I prefer skype so I know you get all the messages as it shows a spinning icon till the messages are read. but if you do not use Skype please just use that gmail address.

-Loki-

Thanks, I can't get into any of the details at this time (for fear of the Ukrainian hitmen paying me a vist lol inside joke)

But something similar to this was actually in the works for the past 6 months, and some things happened and the project needed to be retooled and because of the retooling I've removed myself from it for the time being as I do not possess the skills needed at this stage of the project to be useful (I'm soooo not a programmer).

Once we hit the stage where I can talk openly without the hitmen coming to get me lol I will deff hit you up and fill you in, and see where you can fit into that project.

-Loki-

Thanks Loki, I really appreciate that. The email has been sent.

No offense but it looks like shit.

Here's an example of a 3D porn done properly: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxB_...JRUURNUzg/edit

Not to bash on that work I personally LOVE IT, but the stuff that Max and the D Dub crew makes is SUPPOSED to look that way, they never wanted to make stuff that looked "too" or "close" to human, and therefore went a more "toony" look and feel.

Where most of us strive to get as human as possible, it's two very different styles that's all, no need to hate on either :)

-Loki-

Yeah that one is crazy quality

How are you gonna give her a refund if you are getting evicted because you can't pay the bills?

Lol exactly. Some people like toon fucking and others like realistic looking chicks with a 3 foot penis (like in the trailer above). It is all about what sells not necessarily what you would purchase yourself.

I would never ever buy 3d animated porn but i have also made millions off it.

Now that's interesting stuff. I don't see the point of doing CG if it's not something weird and fantastical. Basically something that can't be achieved with a live shoot.

Also, the artist has "put some stank on it"...the angles, the lighting, etc.

:1orglaugh

Now that is absolutely fantastic! Great artwork and didn't expect that chic to have a metre long dick! :1orglaugh

Loki besides the fact that youre unprofessional and amateurish in every way - this link is why youre broke and homeless - becasue your stuff could never look like this: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxB_...JRUURNUzg/edit now thats fuckn amazeballs!

time to take everyones advice and finally get out and get a real job - you failed at adult

I'm going to give you some advice here for free Loki ....

I've always been a fan of the stuff you do, and I think you are very talented, but you lack the marketing skills.

Why not take orders for 3-D logos and such ... add-on graphics sets that people can use as they wish on their sites .... and start an affiliate program paying your affiliates like 25% of what they sell?

Let your affiliates be your sales force, letting you focus on what you are good at - which is CREATING the artwork!

How much for a mainstream site logo 900x125 pixels?

Thor is the only one that can truly save Loki

http://cdn.buzznet.com/assets/users1...3660786635.jpg

Loki was the boat builder in the Vikings show right?
Build a boat!

http://www.therpf.com/attachments/f9...953d1275956114

http://resources0.news.com.au/images...6-the-mask.jpg

There's no shame in getting a job as I've learned over this past year. I made $80 to basically listen to a phone call with my mic muted today.

My whole world and many opportunities have opened up for me since I picked up the phone and asked for help last year, and I still have my adult money coming in.

Your skills aren't immediately applicable to average everyday people (like math help I do sometimes, only good for $30-40k a year on a case by case basis).

Build a Udemy course, it would probably take some research and if you pushed you could probably make something in a couple weeks and end up with with several thousand dollars charging $50-150 for the course per student.

Something to think about. :2 cents:

I think it is exactly the opposite. He is good at marketing himself and his products. The problem is that his work is dated and he needs an overhaul in inventory. He even said himself he hasn't done anything new in years. Because of how quickly technology changes, the bar in this niche gets raised every 6 months and if you dont adapt and stay on top of it you get quickly passed by.

He should be focusing on selling other people's work and be a broker. There are so many people in Asia with amazing work. He could broker deals between them and US clients. While he is doing this, he can explore if he has the abilities and skill to compete with the other people that are making this type of content. If not, maybe his role is more of middle man since he knows people who want to buy this type of content.

I agree. Some of the dimensions are (I presume purposely) crazy, but amazing quality work from affect3d.

seth even if thor himself landed and tried to save loki hed tell him that everything thors going to do hes already tried and people just dont understand the situation hes in, its not him and his choices but instead everyone else thats fucked up and its all due to bad luck. no matter how you look at it loki cannot be saved from himself.

No that was Floki:
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0337671/?ref_=tt_cl_t1

Though he obviously leans on the whole Loki character from the mythology.

Can't fap to any of this toon shit...what is this neckbeard porn?

Bump up the volume.

You can't help someone that has blamed anything and everything on someone else, something else and sincerely believes that all things, particularly those that go wrong are beyond his control.

The thing about people that rely on excuses and blame.... they never run out of excuses and blame. Someone that can put a wife and kids in this place and then say "nothing is ever my fault or my responsibility", going against every biological instinct one should have as a parent and provider is never going to help themselves.

The best thing that could ever happen to him is probably getting evicted. Hopefully, it will serve as a wake up call and if not, the stress will finally take its toll and the wife and kids will likely move on to someone better that can actually parent, actually provide and that is actually responsible and can give them what they need.

The worst thing that could happen for him and his family for the long term is that people give him money.

I sense problems with addiction.............................

To all the fans and supporters bumping thanks.

To all the not so fans, arm chair quarterbacks and straight up trolls thanks.....



This is going to be (hopefully lol) the last time I address a post like this in this thread...

1) I have not placed blame ANYWHERE, I ONLY have said, things happened outside of my control and my savings were lost, I'm sorry I do not feel the need to make my personal life and plights public, no one needs to know or would even care much about health issues of family & friends, car wreaks, fires, etc OR that I HELPED people out because I could and or they were direct family members or close friends.

Sure I take full blame on a lot of things, what baring does that have on me coming here saying "I need help, refuse hand outs so instead buy my content or my services?" I have asked no one NOR would I ask someone to "Give me money"

2) My wife and children are covered and always have been if anything was to ever happen, there is not enough room though for myself there so I would have to go elsewhere until I got back on track, there's NO blame there, but I guess some people could say it's my fault our backup plan for the wife and kids have too small of a house lol.


3) addiction... ONLY if you were privy to a time machine and went back 15 years my friend, I gave up all of that shit many years ago and never looked back, these days I have maybe a six pack of beer every few months, and a glass of Merlot on even rarer occasions. life is hard enough some times I don't feel the need to give up any of my faculties for a high or buzz.

-Loki-

You gave long winded explanations as to how nothing was your fault.

That was the single recurring theme in everything you've said and seemingly... in your life.

And though it will surely fall on deaf ears, its relevant because it is your own pattern of behavior and how you view the world which puts you here today. And its that same denial that blinds you to the fact that you can't be helped because your biggest problem is you.

There is no way to help a drug addict standing at an intersection begging for money by giving him $5.00. That is, in my view the most selfish thing anyone could do. It's a selfish, feel good gesture to make the individual feel good, not to help the junkie. If you want to help the junkie... you can't do anything until the junkie admits he is a junkie... and then sincerely wants help as he then takes responsibility for his situation, for his actions, for his behavior, for his denial and is ready to put in the work to get better.

Similarly, there is no way to help someone who feels that their every problem is because of someone else or something else. You cannot help someone that does not hold themselves accountable. You cannot help someone that feels everything is "beyond my control, and thats why i am in the spot i am in". You've done exactly what you wanted to do for over 10 years in this biz. You've targeted a very narrow niche because it was something you liked. You devoted yourself to producing, what by your own admission 10 years later (or more), is mediocre at best. You can't possibly pretend that you are just a super hard worker bent on being the best you can be.

At best, you did the bare minimum to get by all these years and now you are paying for it.

I don't know anyone that is a hard worker, that strives to be the best at what they do and that always goes above and beyond that has trouble finding work. I know plenty of affiliate reps that do a great job and have other programs offering them jobs all the time. If no one is beating down your door to snatch you up because you're a great talent.. then maybe you need to start asking "why do others see me as a bad investment"

Bump for long winded topic skimmers and long winded suspected tweekers.

why oh why can't I quit you lol.

I really hate playing justification theater but for whatever reason I am compelled to do so when people post the most inaccurate assumptions of me.

(And I really don't want this to be long winded....)

If you knew me, knew my personal life, the last things you would ever say or type about me is what you have, I am a damn hard worker, husband and parent and anyone who knows me or that I have done contract work for can attest to that (including those who hired me for this and that from this thread)

You claim I blame everyone for my setbacks and yet you have no clue what the setbacks were and I NEVER blamed anything or anyone, I ONLY said I lost money due to issues beyond my control (you call that blame)

Issues beyond your control can be, unexpected medical expenses, property damage, death in the family, overhead for business, bad market / investment etc etc none of those have "blame" placed on them.

When a loved one falls ill and insurance doesn't cover things that is out of your control, If lighting strikes ______ and destroys _______ that is out of your control, if someone close to you dies that is out of your control.

I'm not going to get into my personal life and explain WHAT issues happened it's really no one business, but I assure you they WERE out of my control.

NOT full of myself, OR trying to brag, but I and 4 other people created the niche, and IF it is in fact so narrow as you claim WHY do most companies have entire networks of sites in their programs backed by MY content and artists I brought into the industry? YES I liked it but more so I knew it would be something that would be very profitable, and it indeed was, is, and continues to be. (Guess that why CE and AMA just launched entire programs for 3D Toons)

YES YES YES my OLDER stuff is mediocre at best WHEN judged by today's standards. When it was created, sold, and used to make sites it WAS high quality for the times.

I've lost track of how many times I've said this, I STOPPED making content, I RETIRED from adult, and moved on.

Assumptions again, there was no "door" to beat down, I retired, I moved on, I contacted all of my clients and contract companies and informed them I was leaving AND that I would be available if they needed content or consulting or I could put them in contact with other artists when they needed content I did end up doing both mostly for free, but I was nowhere near able to take on any contracts.

As for me being a failure, never made money, can't make good content, can't market myself and whatever else has been thrown around, I thank you for teaching me GFY math...

Success + building a niche from nothing to something + retiring + launching a new company + 'Issues out of my control' + coming back to create new HD video content + holding a sale to get back into the black =

being a failure, never made money, can't make good content, can't market myself and whatever else has been thrown around.

So much for this not being long winded lol

-Loki-

The only measurement of success that anyone needs to know is that you, your wife and your children are being thrown out into the street because you can't pay your rent.

"Retired" typically means "I'm living on the money I've amassed".

Not

"I've quite my job with nothing saved up and no real income"

this thread sucks

And by the way, you created a thread announcing you, your wife and your children were going to be evicted in a matter of hours. Not days, not weeks, not in a month or two. You simply don't have an argument that you have your shit together. It's not like you got laid off from your executive position at Chevron right after spending every cent to relocate, buy a house etc. in a new state or country.

I think I love you :1orglaugh

Now let's just have fun, cause it's obvious you are having fun here, This story is NOT meant to reflect me, but I'd love to prove a point.

A executive, who managed to save say $60k - $80k retires from one job and creates a start up.

Over the course of a year he's almost doubled the savings so he now has $80k - $120k in savings.

now lets say he put $18k into the start up and it will take at least a year or two before a return on that is seen, and meanwhile he also pays out $40k in medical bills, $30k for a loved ones home, $20k in various repairs, upgrades, $20k here, $10k there, and all of the sudden the savings are gone.

Did He quit his job with no savings?

Was he a failure?

Should his wife and kids leave him?

Should he give up and go work at Mc Donalds?

Was he lazy and not a hard worker?

Knowing the situation above your answers would almost certainly be NO to all above.

Why then when you don't know the situation are these your go-to's?

No matter how high you are, you can fall, no matter how rich you are you could loose it all, no matter how great your job is it could be gone tomorrow, doesn't change what you achieved prior to any of it happening ;)

-Loki-