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wehateporn 08-10-2013 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19753871)
Not sure if this thread is serious or youre trying to give a little bump in business to a friend of yours.

But this is a softcore site (basically non nude), this site would have been great 10 years ago.

And not in the same sense solo girl sites aren't the same as they were 10 years ago, the sales of solo girl sites has decreased but if you are really good at what you do, they make very good money

Non nude on the other hand, not only is it not what people want these days, there is no affiliates to push non nude content.

Like you say Pseudonymous, there are far easier niches to make money in, non nude is one of the hardest niches to crack. A non nude site has no nudity to sell, so they've really got to use their brains and find a way of being better than a clothing catalog. It takes imagination, brains and talent to crack this niche, most would fail, most do fail, sites which were non nude gave up and added nudity. However, Zach's site is growing very fast despite being non nude. Like you say 10 years ago it was possible to do this, but in 2013 surely only a genius or someone gifted can create a hugely popular non nude site

rogueteens 08-10-2013 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19753880)
I like Zishy a lot, started promoting it a few weeks ago and it's made a lot of sales - unfortunately the price he's charging is unneccessarily low, affiliate's cut is 4 dollars, i've done a few 19 dollar sales. What he should do is set up another tour, as simple as just copying his tour to a sub-domain for affiliates and charging at least 19.95 a month. So while it's sold better than new sites will for me the overall revenue isn't much better than a new site that converts decently.

I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

Dankasaur 08-10-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19754068)
I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

You have to go to a non-front page link.

Grapesoda 08-10-2013 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19753871)
If its true and the Zishy guy is an ex photographer for digital desire and enjoys shooting models.

not a shooter, worked in the office... editing maybe... wasn't supposed to talk to the models, yet hit on the models to shoot for him :2 cents:

pornguy 08-10-2013 07:17 AM

Nothing special from what I see.

dyna mo 08-10-2013 08:00 AM

genius is a term that gets bandied about way too much these days, we need to keep the bar high re: genius status.

that said, zishy has moments of excellence. the outdoor stuff = wow.

wehateporn 08-10-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 19754068)
I just tried to click on the webmaster link on the bottom of the page - took me ages, every time I tried to click, new pics loaded up and pushed the link down! :D

That's the IQ test to filter potential affiliates :winkwink:

Seth Manson 08-10-2013 04:29 PM

http://www.zishy.com/uploads/thumbs/...e_IMG_5149.jpg

he should be a little more respectful

wehateporn 08-10-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19754445)

he should be a little more respectful

The best artists a drawn towards pushing the limits :2 cents:

MediumPimpin 08-10-2013 06:03 PM

Started pushing the site a few months back, I really like his style.

SilentKnight 08-10-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19754450)
The best artists a drawn towards pushing the limits :2 cents:

You've got to be fuckin' kidding, right? :disgust

Best-In-BC 08-10-2013 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19754504)
You've got to be fuckin' kidding, right? :disgust

I hope soo

wehateporn 08-10-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19754504)
You've got to be fuckin' kidding, right? :disgust

It's a fact though :2 cents:

SilentKnight 08-10-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19754519)
It's a fact though :2 cents:

So you're defending someone's lack of respect for a veteran grave as just "pushing the envelope'?

Impressive.

wehateporn 08-10-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19754527)
So you're defending someone's lack of respect for a veteran grave as just "pushing the envelope'?

Impressive.

I wasn't defending or criticizing, but rather making the observation that many of the great artists are known for this :2 cents:

livexxx 08-10-2013 06:32 PM

Is he Czech? Looks like that kind of 'style'

SilentKnight 08-10-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19754531)
I wasn't defending or criticizing, but rather making the observation that many of the great artists are known for this :2 cents:

Ah, I see.

Name me another "great artist" known for disrespecting the gravesite of military veterans.

wehateporn 08-10-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 19754536)
Ah, I see.

Name me another "great artist" known for disrespecting the gravesite of military veterans.

I thought you knew this didn't work on me? Nice try anyway :winkwink:

NaughtyRob 08-11-2013 10:05 AM

He's definitely better than run of the mill. He does great NN tease work.

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Originally Posted by mikesouth (Post 19753706)
looks ok but i see nothing to put him in the Dean Cature/Ken Marcus/Steven Hicks/Holly Randall category

just run of the mill photography there


JP-pornshooter 08-12-2013 12:04 PM

i didnt say he was a photographer for digital desire, just that he worked for them.
think he did mostly computer work, web related...

his style is really nice, and i have never seen him hit on the models, but he will ask if they mind shooting non nude with him and i think for the most part the girls dig it.
definitively potential but he doesnt like hardcore styles - soft nude i think is where he is comfortable.

Captain Kawaii 08-12-2013 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19754531)
I wasn't defending or criticizing, but rather making the observation that many of the great artists are known for this :2 cents:

Zishy is mediocre at best.

Gator 08-12-2013 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycastor (Post 19753977)
i agree hes a great photographer and he should raise his price to 29,95 month, that low price is the only thing that keeps me away from pushing it and im sure this stuff sells nice , compared to lots of crap content that is floating arround and constantly spammed in here...

but i guess hes clever, hes collecting a big growing paid memberbase and will bank out on another occasion.
and why not , talent should be rewarded...good luck to him

I don't know how well the site would sell at $30/month for what is being offered. I think it does good now because the price is more than fair.

Gator 08-12-2013 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19754445)
http://www.zishy.com/uploads/thumbs/...e_IMG_5149.jpg

he should be a little more respectful

I agree. That is f'd up.

potter 08-12-2013 01:59 PM

He's got the right price point. It's funny how over-priced so many adult sites are. More companies would make a killing if they switched to something more like what this guy is doing.

$20/30/40 a month for a subscription to an adult site? LOL It's just so absurd.

Pseudonymous 08-12-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 19756446)
He's got the right price point. It's funny how over-priced so many adult sites are. More companies would make a killing if they switched to something more like what this guy is doing.

$20/30/40 a month for a subscription to an adult site? LOL It's just so absurd.

Yes its a bit absurd but youre wrong about the first part. Most paysite owners have tried both ways. There is a reason why its remained 20-40

potter 08-12-2013 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pseudonymous (Post 19756454)
Yes its a bit absurd but youre wrong about the first part. Most paysite owners have tried both ways. There is a reason why its remained 20-40

It's sad to see an entire industry almost work together to actually try and narrow their customer base.

If you were to go to any other industry, they'd be sitting there thinking "How can we make our product cheaper, and get it into the hands of more people". Then you'd go over to adult and you'd see a paysite owner trying to figure out how high he could possibly price his site, and coming up with ways that are essentially narrowing the customer base.

Very, very sad... But hey, whatever you need to say to convince yourself to keep your 20 year old pricing structure.

Sly 08-12-2013 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by potter (Post 19756446)
He's got the right price point. It's funny how over-priced so many adult sites are. More companies would make a killing if they switched to something more like what this guy is doing.

$20/30/40 a month for a subscription to an adult site? LOL It's just so absurd.

You're incorrect. Cut your price in half and you almost have to triple your sales/subscriber base just to make up the difference in revenue after configuring processing and other support related expenses, that is not even counting the additional cost of acquiring more members.

The $10 model has been tried and tried and tried again. It disappears quickly for a reason.

_Richard_ 08-12-2013 02:44 PM

waittttaaaa minute

someone had another photo shoot with that unbelievable blonde model!!!

potter 08-12-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19756480)
You're incorrect. Cut your price in half and you almost have to triple your sales/subscriber base just to make up the difference in revenue after configuring processing and other support related expenses, that is not even counting the additional cost of acquiring more members.

The $10 model has been tried and tried and tried again. It disappears quickly for a reason.

We had a client who wanted to price their iPad app at $20. Tried to convince them many times that it just wouldn't work, that they wouldn't make any sales. They wanted it at $20 though. They spent close to a year on the app store with little to no sales. Finally, after this time I was able to convince them to try a lower price. They wanted to do $15, or $10 - but I insisted they bring it down to $3-5. They did, and changed the price to $5. They made more sales the following month than they had in the entirety of the app being on the app store.

Whats funny is there is a gold rush with mobile and web right now. Every day mobile technology becomes cheaper, and mobile phones get into the hands of more and more people around the globe. The same goes for internet connections, and computers. It is absolutely incredible the sheer amount of people and data that is being added to the internet each day. Companies are falling head over heels trying to snatch up the emerging markets. Go to any big conference (in mainstream) and it's always a main focus. Yet again, you go to adult and it's like everyone is doing the exact opposite of what is understood and done in other industries. It is truly incredible to see the backwards ass methodologies used and spoken about in this industry.

His Infernal Majesty 08-13-2013 01:41 PM

I'm unsure why people bitch about how bad things are getting then turn around and poo poo on someone who is trying something different? That is insanity!

http://johnlusher.com/wp-content/upl...6/insanity.jpg

dyna mo 08-13-2013 01:54 PM

hah, actually had this in my personal stash!

cute pic

http://i.imgur.com/cXBTpo3.jpg

CaptainHowdy 08-13-2013 01:58 PM

http://theworldonastick.files.wordpr...3/03/like1.jpg

_Richard_ 08-13-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Seth Manson (Post 19754445)
http://www.zishy.com/uploads/thumbs/...e_IMG_5149.jpg

he should be a little more respectful

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GALLERY NOTES
Karla Meyers was asked to bring a prop to her shoot that told something of her personality. She brought this camera, which was perfect since I had planned to take her to the picturesque cemetery that you see here. I know that I risk heavy criticism for shooting somewhat provocative photos at such a serious place and on such a serious day. However, look around on this holiday when we are asked to remember those who died fighting our wars. Do you observe the majority of us Americans being humble and serious or do we gather and indulge like it was any other holiday? I'm off now to enjoy big Memorial Day savings at Walmart. Be well.
seems rather respectful

http://www.zishy.com/albums/317-karl...s-memorial-day

Captain Kawaii 08-13-2013 02:55 PM

Anyone who compares a gay-boy tease site with hardcore porn price points is delusional, nutters or spends too much time with mommy.

After looking at the website at hand's traffic I hope they have strong DMCA enforcement in India. :upsidedow

The site is not bad its just boring and a 5 on the 1-10 scale. For me.

I like to see naked girls.

wehateporn 08-13-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 19757779)
Anyone who compares a gay-boy tease site with hardcore porn price points is delusional, nutters or spends too much time with mommy.

After looking at the website at hand's traffic I hope they have strong DMCA enforcement in India. :upsidedow

The site is not bad its just boring and a 5 on the 1-10 scale. For me.

I like to see naked girls.

:1orglaugh

Mormons pay good money for this stuff, Zishy isn't banned in the Morman Internet filters.


I suspect a lot of older people who didn't grow up with porn on tap will also still enjoy these type of images. I doubt the new generations will understand the point of them.

wehateporn 08-13-2013 05:27 PM


NaughtyRob 08-13-2013 06:11 PM

I still love NN tease and maybe its because I am 47 but it turns me on more than hardcore.

wehateporn 08-13-2013 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NaughtyRob (Post 19757972)
I still love NN tease and maybe its because I am 47 but it turns me on more than hardcore.

I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but Playboy nudity is about the most I can look at before things start to look ugly to me

Jim_Gunn 08-13-2013 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19757689)
hah, actually had this in my personal stash!

cute pic

http://i.imgur.com/cXBTpo3.jpg

For crying out loud, how could you think that photo of all the pics on that huge tour is one of the best pics? Not only is the photographer and his flash evident in the reflection not once but twice which is amateurish as hell, but the model looks sad or annoyed not to mention super pale. She looks way better in the rear view in the reflection.

wehateporn 08-17-2013 02:53 AM



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