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Jman 08-12-2013 05:22 PM

Strip, Cam and escort. If they are lucky enough they will end up being one of Charlies Angels ;)

adultmobile 08-12-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19756631)
Overall I'd say your figures represent the top 10% of the market. Either that means you only work with the best (perhaps only they can afford your services).

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19756664)
That's like asking what the "average" rock band signed to a major label contract makes and then using the Rolling Stones as an example.

Quote for truth.

CaptainHowdy 08-12-2013 05:25 PM

Why do you care on the first place??

marcop 08-12-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19756531)
Money From Scenes:

Maybe I just run in different circles but the women I call friends / clients have been in the industry for 3+ years minimum.

You only know women who've been in the business a minimum of three years? Seeing as most girls are in and out of the biz in well under three years, that's hardly a representative sample. And although $800 is still considered that "standard" rate for b/g, I know of girls doing quick scenes for as low as $300-$500

kane 08-12-2013 05:50 PM

I saw an interview with a porn girl a while back who said she could make 10 times what she does in videos just feature dancing at strip clubs around the country. It means she is always on the road, but the money is great.

Back before I was ever in this business I went with some friends to see some porn girl who was appearing at a strip club. She came out, danced for about 20-30 minutes in a few different outfits and interacted with the crowd. I don't know what she was paid to appear,but she made several hundred in tips during the dancing then after she sold Polaroid pictures that she would take with you and then sign for $20 a pop. She had about 20 guys get pictures and several other guys bought her panties and other stuff she had. One guy ended up going to a private room for a private dance with her. No idea what that costs.

This was just the first to two shows she was going to do that night and she was there for three days.

She made some nice scratch that weekend.

slapass 08-12-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 19756693)
Why do you care on the first place??

Just a surfer moment. I have favorites just like everyone and I noticed they were not that active and it seemed unlikely they were making much money.

Trend 08-12-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ilnjscb (Post 19756631)
Far be it from me to get in a pissing match with you, but for everyone you quote above, there are other stories.

Money From Scenes: Most of the talent I know don't make as much as you quote above or book that easily. And they are very hot and do good scenes. As most other posters say, some leave so quickly that it is difficult to get any additional marketing from them after a few weeks. Probably 50% of what is shot never makes it to the market.

Money From Cams: I'd say more like $50 an hour, based on models when they are honest, and discussions on stripperweb <admitted heresay.

Feature Dancing: Don't know shit about this, but again, on stripperweb, they don't seem too happy.

Escorting: $1400 may be what touring AGENCIES get, but the talent gets half or a little more than that. Regular escorts get ..... $300 - $500 even if they have done a few scenes. Unknown girls get $200/hr average.

Website: So many solo girl web sites have gone down, and so many never made money at all.

Overall I'd say your figures represent the top 10% of the market. Either that means you only work with the best (perhaps only they can afford your services) or perhaps that has simply been your experience.


No "pissing match" taken :)

Maybe I am working with an unusual group. I just don't see numbers anywhere near what you are quoting here.

Trend 08-12-2013 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19756664)
I agree. I am not going to argue whether I believe that this guy's particular porn star clients or friends are making that much money. But he describes a situation with extremely business savvy models doing everything right and maximizing every opportunity available to them to the utmost. That's like asking what the "average" rock band signed to a major label contract makes and then using the Rolling Stones as an example.


I'm not saying that there aren't women making less in the industry but this list is not making less than that.

If any of them are.. they are either being scammed or they are doing something wrong.

Jim_Gunn 08-12-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19756781)
I'm not saying that there aren't women making less in the industry but this list is not making less than that.

If any of them are.. they are either being scammed or they are doing something wrong.

Some of those girls aren't even in the business anymore. And for what it's worth, a lot of people in general, not just porn stars constantly "do something wrong" the entirety of their lives and never manage to put more than two nickels together at the same time.

Trend 08-12-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 19756786)
Some of those girls aren't even in the business anymore. And for what it's worth, a lot of people in general, not just porn stars constantly "do something wrong" the entirety of their lives and never manage to put more than two nickels together at the same time.


Regarding "aren't even in the business anymore" .. you know what I meant though right?
The top 50 ...top 100 active.

My point does not have to do with what they keep .. my point is that the top women make more than what was being portrayed.

I truly desire that more of them keep and invest in their futures. Done wisely adult can provide them one heck of a future.

I'll put it this way.

There are more than 10 of those women on that list that own more than 10 properties. That's an exit plan.

Just Alex 08-12-2013 09:04 PM

How much would Asa Akira or Lucy Lee charge for 16 minutes of sex?

SomeCreep 08-12-2013 09:06 PM

They do a lot of coke. That gets them by.

johnnyloadproductions 08-12-2013 09:40 PM

Get former starlets who's best days are far behind them, get them for $250 and stretch it out an entire evening. Then you can post all the pics on 4chan and have a brofest session. :2 cents:
I just like hearing stories wear I bothered to wear protection, then someone I know doesn't and gets an STD from the same girl. :)

Girls like Riley Reid do very well. I met her when she had only done 2-3 scenes.

Some girls, luck have it, almost didn't happen.

Most of you on here probably know Nicole Aniston.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicole_Aniston

She is 25 now, when she was 20 she responded to a craigslist ad when she was 20 and did a bj facial scene. She had a kid and was living with her parents, apparently her dad heard the whole conversation and told her that if that ever happened again she would be evicted and be living on her own.

2 years go by, the same producer runs into her at Wells Fargo, says hello to Nicole. Her situation is grim and she brushes off his attempt at getting contact information. Just as he is leaving she tells him to leave his card. Funny how instances like that change a person's life forever.

Right after that she shot a couple scenes and got booked for high end escorting in Dubai. Her parents did find out again of course but by the time that happened she had a lot of money, and you know what? Money in quantity makes anything ok.
Love does some things, money does all. :2 cents:

johnnyloadproductions 08-12-2013 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19756820)
How much would Asa Akira or Lucy Lee charge for 16 minutes of sex?

Asian fan, huh?

AmeliaG 08-12-2013 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 19756077)
I have 5 girls that have worked with me for over seven years now and 4 of the 5 have made over half a million dollars. Lots of their friends have made over 100K working with them. I have been doing this for 13 years and now I only film 1 day a week.
I do not film content for sites. I might sell it in bulk after I have a lot but that is not what I do.


Uhm, the site in your sig has an Alexa of worse than 6 million. That doesn't seem like a project someone making millions or paying pornstars $70k per year would, ya know, have as a flagship.

Or are you speaking to the escort part of this thread?

AmeliaG 08-12-2013 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Trend (Post 19756775)
No "pissing match" taken :)

Maybe I am working with an unusual group. I just don't see numbers anywhere near what you are quoting here.


If you are only working with talent who can afford to hire a finance guy, that is going to be, as others have said, a very select group.

Also, as a finance guy, I'm sure you are aware of how much optimism and fantasy can go into the forecasting for the average pro-forma.

EviLSuperstaR 08-13-2013 01:35 AM

The ones I know do camming, striptease at special parties and some start producing porn at the same time they still do porn themselves. It is also very popular here to participate in mainstream reality shows but that's usually a sign they want to get out of the business asap.


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