LOL
this place was always full of idiots
what i'm saying is - yes, there're still money to be made, but not because the industry is growing, but because i'm better than those who quit
and if you want to make sales you'll have to 'take' those from me or other profiting webmaster

i also won't be addressing most of the bs flooding this thread

Anyone here own PornFlix.Com hit me up if you do.

If tubes are the reason for the death of paysite model...
 

... then we must see the death of tubes too in the future???? More and more programs closing; less and less new fresh produced content. Less and less content to be added to the tubes. Customers getting bored. Decline traffic.. etc etc etc.

I wonder when this spoiled "everything for free" generation will start to complain that there is no more new fresh content.

But... everything must go to shit first...

Cams
Dating
Old sites selling paysites + pop unders + mobile redirects

Don't get me wrong I think a paysite could still be the way to go too. Because a part of the industry is on a downward curve does not necessarily mean that you cannot make a million or two in it. :)

I think there will be movement towards free porn production. Just as they cut out the affiliate they will cut out models, producers, photographers and others too. Volunteer models and producers will be working for free and publishing their porn on the tube. The tube will then sell dick pills, dating and cams off to the side. Part of what will bring this on is that not only will it be difficult to justify production costs but the average surfer will have so much professionally produced porn available that they will lose interest (even for free) and look for the amateur stuff.

This thread is sad but true. Companies should go on craigslist now and find interns to shoot your porn and face the charges when they get caught shooting without permits and condoms. They will work for free and take all the heat for you for very little or no money. They will even go out and buy nice equipment with their savings so they can be around hot chics and call themselves porn producers. You have an new generation of mope shooters that have no clue about actual production but they will save you a few hundred dollars per shooting since you no longer have the budget for real shooters. You might want to get a studio though most of these shooters will be living in their moms basement.

And what about paysites doing the same as the tubes: no more content behind a payform... their productions free to watch on their site making money with ads...
No more revshare for affiliates but they get paid for the traffic they send.

Ad money is usually less money than subscriptions. This is conventional business wisdom but it might not apply to adult since we've been destroying the subscription model for years. But I don't know everything or see the future. :)

Do you offer content that they cannot get at the tubes? Not just your specific brand but a different type of niche or micro-niche which is unique?

Will the surfers go to your site instead of the tube site? They've been conditioned for six years now to go to the tube sites. You'll have to overcome that.

When the tubes start seeing you as a competitor and they no longer need or want your content I am guessing that the free traffic from the watermarks and whatever links they provide ceases. Already most tubes will not allow watermarks unless you are in the CPP.

Sad news my friend.

:(

My content is not widely spread on the tubes and torrents. I have one video on 1 tube in the cpp to check if it would work for me but it's not really working for me (a lot of views-small amount of clicks to the site). So at this moment my bondageniche content is mostly exclusive to my site only (It could be that a video here and there is shared but i haven't found a site-rip for a long time now). I get visitors that search for: free "mydomain" movies- via google so it looks like i catch those fuckers too.

My microniche bondage type of content is not widely spread on tubes like the bondage-sex content from the bigger companies. That's something different then the damsel in distress bound and gagged fetish, where the bondage and the gags itself is the fetish. If people have bondagetraffic that doesn't convert maybe they should be aware of this nuance in bondagetraffic.

What is annoying to me is that lot of my competitors have their complete contentdatabase spread on sites like myvideo and dailymotion. I wrote some an email to
let them know and what to do to have the content removed. They really don't fucking care, these fucking idiots. It is saturating my niche in a way... on the other hand...
i always have my videos removed there so if people really want my shit they know where to buy it...

It's also amusing to check boards where people sometimes beg for someone to post my content or a working password to my site or how some fucker didn't manage to crack my site:321GFY During a hackattack my login form simply gets removed:)

Maybe that's why MY affiliates still have decent ratios! The only shitty part is is that it's a relatively small niche:)

Regarding to mainstream porn i can imagine why people won't pay for porn anymore...
it's all over the fucking tubes for free.....

Yes I think Kink.com really hurt the bondage niche by allowing (and even putting) their content all over the place on the tubes. It fucked a lot of people because they are so big and with so much content. It hit their affiliates first but then it also spread to everyone in the niche and those related to it in some way. By keeping YOUR stuff off you help parry the effects but you still get hit by it somewhat.

That's the story of things for the affiliate too. One sponsor does it, two sponsors do it, three sponsors do it, and soon there are few customers out there willing to pay ever again in the niche. And here we are. It's a damn shame.

Kink.com is not my direct competitor. The niche is different. My customers are not interested in the "sex" part. They don't even care about nudity. They care about the damsel in distress. But this niche gets hit by myvideo and dailymotion where a lot of non-sex-bondage is for free all over the fucking place. I literally saw people posting: "Wow... all the bondage from all the sites for free! Wish i discovered this site before".

I think there are 2 big reasons why affiliates don't get good ratios with kink anymore:
Indeed... it's all over the place for free
Second: They are so huge and wide-known that everyone knows them. Visitors really don't need an affiliate anymore to direct them to kink.com

Interesting... sponsers that don't put their content on tubes will have a better chance getting affiliates in the future... Businesses could make decissions based on that reality.
They do need to keep their shit from the free sites... also a challence.

I've been actively buying sites in 2013
Saw many offers. Most (like 80%) of sites for sale primary make money with brokers or other services (like 50%+ of income) and very few with paysites.

the ones denying thread title are either stupid fucks or surfers.
just that

dead means that they are not. so, i must be stupid fuck :)

it's different
i'm stating it for the industry, it's not growing bud declining while successful individuals still make sales

it's kinda macro and micro stuff

congrats on being alfamale of this biz :winkwink:

p.s. when do you come back to czech?