i think he knew at the diner. certainly a voice in the back of his head had this part sorted out, marie burped it all out later and she's not the sharpest brain on the show, and he's portrayed as the smart one.

True. I guess the better way of saying it is that Skyler is good at acting like everything is normal and she has nothing to do with Walt's activities until the light is shined on her then she is willing to what it takes to save her own ass.

I think she is just buying time. There was that argument they had where she finally said to him that she would do what it takes to keep the kids safe and that eventually the cancer would come back and essentially set them free of him. It wasn't long after that when she decided to help him out. She is in survival mode and may be just hoping the cancer comes back and kills Walk then she and the kids are free, and if she plays her cards right she is free and has a boatload of money.

I think the opening scene of the first episode with Walt going into the abandoned house, which has "Heisenberg" written on the wall and where he has a full head of hair, suggests A LOT is going to happen while Walt is alive.

i'm thinking i'lll just have to chalk this one up as a tech glitch. i can only imagine how difficult it is to weave a complex show while dev'ing the characters at the same time. it's not out of the question to need to have a character act out of character to point the overall show in the direction the producers want it to go.

besides, i prolly would have never noticed it if i weren't so into the show and trying to dissect the characters.

And it was THAT graffiti on his wall that intrigued me the most! I want to know the story of how that got there!

Exciting times, ahead. :uhoh

LOL Meth Damon. Remembered his name... Todd.

After I wrote that I thought about the opening scene on episode 9 and the abandoned house. I doubted myself and then thought about how the ricin could be to kill off someone that was going to rat on him. Todd seems loyal; they went out of the way to show how loyal he is. I picture Lydia trying to save her own ass, so Walt makes sure that will not happen. Maybe the house was abandoned because because they all moved away until the DEA made the move on Lydia and Todd; but Lydia sent him a message with the spray paint.

Walt was just a boring chemistry teacher before he became Heisenberg. Hank could come around and decide his family is more important than taking down Walt, who has gotten out and doesn't have much time left. He'd want to take someone down though... so Lydia and Todd are perfect for that and they were both very messy with those meth lab deaths.

I really want it to end with Walt healthy, out of the biz and everyone happy. I know it's probably not going to end up that way though because that is what most want.

the problem is the mula and that big speech about it ww gave skyler on the bathroom floor about it. during another scene, when ww was at the back of the money van i was stumped wondering what ww had planned for that cash, burn it even. i did think he was finally going to go burn the money, just like a previous episode. but he stashed it and is giving skyler an ultimatum over it. if skyler agrees and ww turns himself in, then skylar will fight for that money, which will have been found by then as well.

Yeah, the fact that it was his own house and that clearly a lot of time had past given its condition and that he had a full head of hair would suggest to me that he walked away from it all somehow. Probably Lydia will get blamed for it all and Hank will give Walt a pass because he hasn't got enough direct evidence against him.

wouldn't the graffitti suggest that the public knows ww = heisenberg?

also, the fencing off of the house made me think the house was fenced off as a meth house by authorities as well.

I'd love to see Walt find out that Walt Jr. is using meth and watch Mr. White have to come to terms with that.

$50 million in meth sales on the line

You guys are talking about Twilight right?

Skyler has never been about morality.

Skyler has always been about control.

She threatened Walt with divorce, when he did not want one. As soon as he signed, then she held the power by not signing.

She liked controlling Walt and threatened him with his kids etc. when she lost control.

No way was she going to go for Hank offering to step in and take control.

I think her character has been totally consistent.

Baby is not a thing, its pretty dangerous to grab her and yank her while she is holding the child. Imho 100% natural behaviour for any mother and not only mother, any rational person would not go "with force" there.

I don't get it - these shoes are simple classic design, you can buy those at any brand for like 100, 200$ tops. What idiot would pay 625?

same type of "idiot" that buys a $10k watch or $200 bottle of wine or $5k mac?

i looked at her on the divorce as caving in, then she lets ww back in the house and goes and bangs ted to get even. i guess i can see that as some sort of control, but hmm, not sure.

+ i always thought she was playing catch up....ww's constant dissapperances over the early seasons and she always took marie's crap up until she would explode over it or be absolutely forced to deal with it.

not to mention her acting like she did on the bathroom floor with walt.

who knows though, one never tries to dissect gossamer right? :winkwink:

but it's fun anyhoo eh

The type of idiot who would take over a meth wholesaling business, minus its key source of competitive advantage.

she's a savvy idiot too, those are cheap for louboutin. :upsidedow

Hank doesn't know about Skyler's involvement with the money laundering or the situation with Ted Beneke. Hank is only looking at her as the victim at that point when they meet at the diner. Hank says to Skyler something along the lines of "you need to get out in front this and prove to everyone that you have nothing to hide." Problem is that Skyler has a lot to hide.

was it weird that lydia had the entire cooking crew killt just to get a 10% increase in quality? it was like 68%->78%. seems harsh for not a big roi. ww was cooking at what was it 98% ?

that makes sense. but either way, skyler has a lot to hide right? so it just seems weird (to me) that skyler, the woman who was smoking in the house a couple seasons ago to hasten along walt's cancer she loathed him that much, has fully got his back now and was a nurturing wife on the bathroom floor.

i think there must be a big reason to do that. either to placate skyler haters or to bring her into the ending based on this. not saying it's a bad thing or sullies the show, as per usual, i enjoy chatting about the show.

Yeah, gotta be something more than just the small increase in quality. I thought Walt's was 99.1% pure or higher but that Gayle would need a gas chromatograph(sp?) to determine exactly.

If Skyler only knew about it for the amount of time that Hank is thinking she knew about it, and the only reason she didn't say anything was because she was scared, then I think it's reasonable to portray her as a victim.

I think there is a chance that Skyler still does flip on Walt. With Walt's cancer back and if it looks like he isn't gonna be able to beat it this time maybe he has Skyler flip on him just so she can be able to keep the kids for sure.

Exactly. Hank himself admits that he only has pieces of the puzzle. He has no idea how deeply involved in all of this Skyler is.

I think, if nothing else, he wants to believe she is just the victim here, but when she lawyered up and wouldn't talk to her sister I think he might be changing his mind.

it's another reason that suggests to me ww will be back cooking.

all that money being made such a big deal, i mean the scene with big dude laying on it was classic, but just the sheer spectacle of that fucking cube of cash, it was over the top, perhaps a reason to go over the top with that + ww's speech on how important that money is, is that money is going to get lost/taken/used.

i can see shrader seeing her as strictly a victim, but only due to his own ego blinding him from his intellect and consequently, seeing her victimization as an opportunity to finally get heisenberg. i mean he wasn't meeting her in the diner to console a victim, he was there to take advantage of what his emotions causing him to see as a victim that he could exploit.

Walt Lives
 

As much as I liked the ending you came up with, it wouldn't be bloody enough. I think everyone with the exception of Walt is going to die. As far as Hank wrestling with acceptance, I don't see it. Hank hasn't been this upset since Marie called his mineral collection rocks. Hank is more than a little fucking pissed at Walt.

Oh and Skylar is a cunt for having to make Walter Jr. almost beg her to fix the bacon on Walt's plate for his birthday.

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It's wishful thinking on my part.

I don't see it either, the first two episodes of this season ahve been building her up to be more of a hard ass herself.

Telling Lydia to leave and never return, siding with Walt even when Hank was offering a way out. Plus don't forget she had an affair before Walt became a drug dealer so she is a self serving cunt and has a history of it.

Walt had been cooking meth for a while before Skyler had the affair with Ted Beneke in season 3.

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i thought he was referring to ww after becoming a cook but before taking over gus's doper kingpin position.

I believe the reason was that Lydia had a $50 million order from the Czech Republic which required higher purity and that meth lords crew wouldn't let anyone else cook on their turf, so it wasn't like she could just run a competing kitchen.

I agree the most fun moment in this episode is totally when Huell and Saul Goodman?s other henchman hit the storage space to move the huge stacks of cash and just have to lie down on them.

Moving forward:

Hank gets Jessie out of the jail thinking that he will be able to get info from him and prevent him from spilling the beans to anyone else.

Lydia and Todd either lure Jesse to come and cook for them or possibly kidnap him and force him to cook for them against his will.

Walt fakes the deaths of himself, Skyler and the kids in a shootout / fire / explosion at the car wash. Hank and Marie might even be some of the remains inside assumed to be Walt and his family.

Walt, Skyler and the kids disappear to the North East and assume new identities through the guy Saul referred him to a few seasons ago, but Skyler had spent the money needed paying Ted's tax debts.

Walt heads back to Albuquerque to finish up loose ends. The ricin is for Lydia. She is always drinking coffee or something when they meet in a restaurant. He knows he can poison her easily at a meeting. The big gun is to take out Todd and the rest of his gang and rescue Jesse.

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What do you guys think about the radio controlled car in the in front of Hanks house?

I think it means something. Maybe Walt will use a remote controlled car to kill Hank. Drive a bomb into his garage.

I totally missed this reply.

Honestly, when she said the name Todd, I had forgotten who he was until he popped up on top of the manhole.

I think we'll be seeing more of him in these final episodes.

Similar, but not the same thing. Takes too much to elaborate.

I was talking about people who buy them in real life.
I get designer shoes when they look different or special, but these are just basic black leather heels with red sole. Thats not of special category. If you take some quality high heels in 150$ range and slapped this brand name it would be exactly the same thing.

wasn't that fun? i admit, i get so amped up watching this show i have to pause and soak up the rare funny bits like that, when i watched last week's episode again, i found the star trek bit even funnier.

interesting that the main characters are all so completely serious that the henchmen are used for occasional comic relief.

That's Bill Burr, very funny stand-up comedian. Search for his city tours on youtube, hilarious.