Damn, I'm shocked nobody seems to care that they are selling affiliate traffic...

People don't react... Nobody cares.

Now I understand why this business went to hell.

What converts well with chaturbate traffic? Any rules on what you can sell on those ads? I read the terms and it doesn't seem like you have any rules other than sites must be legal bla bla

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Would it not make sense to do the ads in such a way that webmastewrs make cash from sending people to the site and people viwing or clicking on the ads.

And advertisers pay per view/click.

Signed up. Thanks!

Franck, is that you?

Of course no one cares. That is the nature of this business.

and i didn't want to promote them in the first place because of leaks when sending the traffic to Chaturbate.com + ref id , they now have leaks on white labels? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Funny how slow they are to respond to sensitive questions :winkwink:

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To be honest 6 years ago people would have cared, but today so many have left and others I think are just happy if they make $10.

To be honest I do not know why they have adds.

This site could be huge if they removed adds as they would have far many webmasters promoting them.

They should instead put there efforts into getting better ways to turn people into paying tips.

I wonder how many girls have quit doing shows feeling they are doing it free while the site makes money from adverts.

How do they expect to keep girls doing shows if they feel like they are just being used for free promotion of the site to get people to see adverts.

And do the adverts realy convert when most are wanting to see a free show?

It just seems daft.

i don't promote a stupid program like this , never :disgust

It could be that the free cam model isn't as good as many of us seem to think it is. It might be, in a way, just like the free prerecorded porn model in that you cannibalize profits in exchange for views with it all becoming worse with time. I'm not sure how they are doing the ads but if they are replacing the existing ads with these new paid ads it could simply be a way to profit better off of companies who will pay a premium for the ads.

The business model is not new: cam4, a site chaturbate took inspiration from (more than from mfc initially), sells adverts to anyone, directly or via ero-ads: we purchased adverts in cam4 and lots sites, esp. cams, fight to buy ad space in cam4, is always booked months in advance, with quite high prices. What it may be different here, is the traffic coming from affiliate which apparently is resold without any credit - now... if traffic comes from pay per lead this may be ok, just the revshare may be controversial.

Question for chaturbate, do you allow cam sites as advertisers? I tried to directly buy ads on chaturbate for tubecamgirl back in 2011 and 2012 and I was always told, that cam sites are not allowed to advertise. This made sense because "do not help competitors", but I wonder now, question: this limitation was removed, and you allow cam sites to advert, or not? As it is cam sites the ones who would like most to advertise there, you guess. Sakuralive/dxlive already asked you if you sell the Japanese traffic.

By the way on tubecamgirl we made a different option for "leaks". The affiliate can put own html pieces in the site (popunder, banner, im ads) linking to other sites with own affiliate id, just preferably not other cam sites. This way traffic you send as affiliate, it sees tubecamgirl site of course, but also, in it will see your other banners embedded. We count impressions, but not clicks or anything, as it is html pieces you embed, we have no idea of tracking more than impressions. This is forever with unexpiring cookie, so if you user is returning many days, you can let him see different banners across time. A similar system could be made by chaturbate, where the affiliate who sends traffic (in revshare at leasdt) it gets option to show own banners to own viewers (or credit % of his traffic resells as someone said); while chaturbate would resell (and keep 100% from) only the traffic got from google or anyway no any affiliate id. Just exclude the revshare id's, as I think for pay per lead deal, traffic can be re-sold as part of the deal of paying for free user.

The decision to have banners on affiliate traffic was discussed here over a year ago. The ads are necessary for us to maintain high payouts to our affiliates, and we believe that Chaturbate is a good enough product that users won't be "lost" to these banners.

Of course, some affiliates were upset and refused to promote us over it. The affiliates that do promote us are experiencing good conversions and were aware of the banners before they put links up.

The only thing that is changing here is that we're selling ads on a pay-per-click basis. This is a good money making opportunity for those who wish to buy the traffic.

No paxum deposit?

Yea. Weird. I was gonna ask that, too.

It will be added in a few weeks :thumbsup

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Are you fucking kidding me!!

We payout on unverified free registrations. Which means no credit card info needed and e-mail is optional when creating an account and the affiliate still gets paid. So yes, I stand behind that statement :thumbsup

The hypocrisy in this thread is astonishing...

you are selling my traffic for more then what i am making off it sending it to you.

links pulled.

Would you post some apples for apples stats?..

Thanks.....

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Question for chaturbate, do you allow cam sites as advertisers? I tried to directly buy ads on chaturbate for tubecamgirl back in 2011 and 2012 and I was always told, that cam sites are not allowed to advertise. This made sense because "do not help competitors", but I wonder now, question: this limitation was removed, and you allow cam sites to advert, or not? As it is cam sites the ones who would like most to advertise there, you guess. Sakuralive/dxlive already asked you if you sell the Japanese traffic.

Can I use my current affiliate balance to promote offers as advertiser ?

Your question is... can I use the money that I generated from sending you traffic be used to send me back traffic?

Really?

Interesting, will check it out..

It is prohibited to display ads that:

advertise another cam site or service;
have animated or blinking buttons or text;
have content which misleads users. ie; (close buttons, input boxes, play buttons, etc.);
contain offensive and/or discriminatory language;
contains images that are not 2257 compliant or look under 18;
download viruses, trojans or other malware on users PC and/or mobile devices;
fail to comply with the requirements of the effective law;
fail to comply with the ads.chaturbate.com terms & conditions (http://ads.chaturbate.com/terms/).

no. if you think im bs'n thats on you. i have no reason to lie.

better way for me to say. i don't post shit on this board about what i do or how i do it.

i gave away a million dollar method once on mistake.

Ok, thanks for reply.
This also answers dxlive/sakuralive question.

But PS: most dating sites also are full of cam links, often owned by same program. For example if I advertise AFF, whoever signups to it then gets streamray cams links everywhere. Whoever send traffic to datinggold, sends basically to webcamclub too. And so on.

Totally correct! What's your point ? If you think I couldn't profit on that - you are wrong:winkwink:

The amount of active ads has doubled since yesterday.
Regardless what folks say, it's obviously working for Chaturbate.

I'm wondering if the CTR's are turning into conversions for y'all.
Would love to see some stats from some folks...

How do you know?

How do I know it doubled? I've been watching the ads since yesterday.
There were about 23 ads in the female category, yesterday. Today, there
are around 53. The average bid has also gone up and people are bidding
more for those spots. It's starting to get crowded.

I thought you were a guy?.. But you are a girl? A Dutch girl.

Let me guess, in the past you were a "Cam-Whore" and now you want to get it all and jumped over to the next level. If I am wrong and you are a Dutch guy who never did that, just let me know, but something tells me I'm right.

I have nothing against cam-Girls at all, I respect them. But when they take over a program, they start making big mistakes. Just check chaturbate. Although the program is a great idea, they start going the Greed Way, and going that way is only going to destroy their business model, soon or late.

They cannot put Models above everything and don't care about Adult Webmasters at all... They cannot keep the program going if webmasters are going to send less traffic. Models are just a part of it. Webmasters are the traffic.

That really sucks. I don't like that they are selling My traffic and not crediting me for it.

I will slowly start sending my traffic somewhere else. There are other programs slowly popping up that are as good or even better than Chaturbate, or have the same amateurish idea without all the traffic leaks and bullshit, and converting as well as they are.

I wonder why... when all programs become popular they become Greed, and that destroys the program. It must be some kind of natural thing in humans. Nothing lasts forever.

I'm no girl or former camwhore or dutch, but I take your guess as a compliment :)

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Your observation is correct. Often affiliates are only treated well as long as they are needed. When they are no longer needed they are discarded like garbage by most in the industry. This often happens after the program takes off or the program starts focusing on tube marketing. To some degree you expect it but in many cases it's clear that it is just greed and taking advantage of people. The best advice is to promote your own brands or to get enough upfront where you aren't bothered by it. Revshare models in adult are increasingly risky.

Now that's strange... When I checked, the contact name at your program was "Anne" or "Anna"...

As far as Im concerned thats a Girls name, right?

Ok, lets stop the bullshit. What's your name? (just your name, not your full name)

Who are you? Where are you from?

If you operate a sponsor, there is *No Reason* to hide that information. But you seem to hide it from everyone here. Why are you hiding your identity? Nobody knows you, but you operate a cam program?

Any cam program I deal with, I know the name of my affiliate manager, or where they are from, otherwise I would not deal with them at all.

For some strange and suspicious reason you hide your information.

Now you can see that it was easier to just say yes to my question, rather than being a smart-ass with me, right... :1orglaugh