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AIPAC to go all-out on Syria "The powerful pro-Israel lobby AIPAC is planning to launch a major lobbying campaign to push wayward lawmakers to back the resolution authorizing U.S. strikes against Syria, sources said Thursday. Officials say that some 250 Jewish leaders and AIPAC activists will storm the halls on Capitol Hill beginning next week to persuade lawmakers that Congress must adopt the resolution or risk emboldening Iran?s efforts to build a nuclear weapon." Just 9 percent of Americans back intervention I guess we'll find out who governs America. |
If only 9% want to intervene it won't happen. |
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That's one of the reasons I keep debating it with you...the chances of Assad himself getting killed by a cruise missile are pretty low. But we are going to kill civilians by the scores. And also consider this...we are going to destroy the infrastructure of the country. Destroy the airport, destroy the bridges, destroy their military. Didn't we learn that lesson of what NOT to do in Iraq? Because then, after we get done killing and destroying...what next? A country in total chaos. No leader, no airports, no police, no military. And then, just like in Iraq...the real slaughter begins. I just don't see the logic in this at all. We are gonna fling a few billion dollars worth of missiles to kill and destroy even more Syrian civilians. Why not take that money and help all those Syrian people who are in refugee camps trying to escape the carnage? Or better yet...take all that money and help the people who live right here in the United States that are going hungry or need medical attention. After all...it is our tax money that is being used for this. |
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Okay...so let's say that they have a small (compared to the U.S.) stockpile of chemical weapons.
They've had them for years (probably purchased from Russia or Iran who are both allies of Syria and both are part of the 13 countries in the world who PRODUCE chem weapons...including the U.S.). With Assad as the leader of the country they have never used or threatened to use chemical weapons on any other country...ever. So now we are supposed to be worried that the chemical weapons will "fall into the wrong hands" while Pres. Obama has been encouraging the "rebels" to fight since he announced in 2011 that it was "Time for Assad to go"? Doesn't that sound fucked up to you? We gave the rebels encouragement to keep fighting. We publicly call for their Pres. to step down. We give them support under the table. And now we are talking about firing cruise missiles to help them further...all to overthrow a guy who has had chem weapons for decades & never attacked any of the countries you mentioned or evened threatened to. So we take out the responsible guy and then we have to worry about the chemical weapons falling into the "wrong hands". In other words...we help exacerbate a problem and then try to "solve" it. Where if we had kept our nose out of it in the first place...The Syrian govt. would have quelled the rebellion in a few weeks and the bloodshed would have been ended 2 years ago. Now we have all this death, refugee camps, Al Qaede all over Syria. And our "solution" is to bomb them. :( If only we would stay the fuck out of other nation's business... |
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They have a pissant amount compared to the U.S. is what I said.
The U.S. has more chemical weapons than any country on Earth and we are one of only 13 countries that MAKE the stuff. Google it up for yourself. That's what I did, and I was shocked. |
Inconsequential as a single weapon in the stratosphere is endless misery.
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Gimme a break: You might be mistaking corruption for outright stupidity, " So we take out the responsible guy and then we have to worry about the chemical weapons falling into the "wrong hands"." |
I think you might be misunderstanding what I am saying...
I'm trying to say that we should have stayed out of it BECAUSE we fuck it up worse everytime. Assad has never threatened any country with chemical weapons. But now that Syria is destabilized (and we are wanting to destabilize it FURTHER)...we are possibly looking at chemical weapons falling into the "wrong hands" and then being used against other countries in "terror" attacks. If we had stayed out of it from the beginning...his govt. would have quelled the unrest 2 years ago. Instead we have fanned the flames and the fighting has gone on and on and now one of the two sides has used Sarin (probably Assad, but who knows?). We should have learned this lesson by now. It NEVER turns out "good" when we stick our nose into other countries. And of course...it's also illegal as hell according to international law. The United Nations was established for a REASON. It's not supposed to be easy to attack another country. And after what happened with the Bush Admin and Iraq...and all the recent "whistle blowers" revealing what the United States govt. has been up to...it's pretty obvious that we are not being told the full story here. I wouldn't put ANYTHING past the corrupt politicians in Washington D.C. And I do NOT want to see my countries military bombing and killing the citizens of Syria. |
Well: Be careful what you ask for you may just get it. |
Do I think my hands are clean?
I have NOTHING to do with any of this...so of course MY hands are clean of it. As for the Federal Govt. of The United States...IF they bomb and kill hundreds more Syrian citizens then the Govt.'s hands are dirty. Not mine. I'm not really sure where you are coming from on this. Are you bloodthirsty or something? That's sure what it sounds like. You sound like you just can't wait for the U.S. to get into ANOTHER war. I'm telling you...this kind of thing has never worked out for the U.S. (or any other country). Imperialism and trying to run the world just does not work. As I said earlier, if the U.S. hadn't been supporting the rebels from the beginning this whole thing would have ended 2 years ago with minimal bloodshed. |
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