Putting everything on Todd and Lydia could still be a possibility though. Walt is pretty convincing when he wants to be. I think he should still pull the wool over Hank's eyes by convincing him he was at the bottom of the ladder.

Still trying to figure out the angle of Todd possibly having something for Lydia and where that could go.

i'll guess it's going to split up todd's crew. the way his uncle and the other dude were eyeballing lydia, i suspect todd is going to kill that dude which will cause his crew to splinter.

i stand corrected on the confession. ww is certainly prone to them. this is the 3rd one he's done and the show even started off with a walter white confession under duress.

:-)

hah, in fact, that original confession in the 1st episode of the show was at that very same location.

:-)

Pinkman isnt dead

dont ask but that i know

I don't know if Todd likes her or he wants to rape her though. He is an interesting character. Acts nice and helpful. Like a little kid. But he shot that kid on the motorcycle without hesitation.

There was a lot in this episode. Normally they would have taken 2-3 episodes to cover all this ground and done it with great tension and detail.

I have a feeling they realize they have a lot of loose ends to tie up and are quickly running out of time so they are cramming more and more into the episodes.

thoughts on why they had white being so dominated and subjugated by shrader in front of pinkman like that?

and i am using all of their last names specifically, this was a very macho scene and quite frankly, i am stunned by white's lack of it here.

My thinking. To create a sense of tragedy. Hank had White where he wanted him. He was being the typical cop that is in control. The rush from nabbing Walter and his cash. Making it all the more tragic to lose it all.

Ever seen a cop search your car. They yell at you, tell you to stand here and there. When they get it your car they look like kids under a Christmas tree, looking for that big score.

Hank had public enemy number 1 and a record breaking cash haul. All to be lost in the next few minutes.

As you say, they rarely do anything in this show for no reason so there is likely some kind of subtext to why they had White like that. On a more obvious front, I think White thought he could get out of it. I think his arrogance still had him believing that he can control Jesse and I think he feels like he could still outsmart Hank, but he knew that he was caught so he gave into them at that moment if for no other reason that he didn't have any other real option.

The way they had him kneel down and all that stuff is how the police arrest someone that is very high risk so it was accurate, but I also think it was meant to make Hank and Jesse feel like they had finally beaten Walter.

I think much of this episode was mostly a setup that is leading us towards Walt's likely face-off with the Nazi crew. Why he is going to face them I suppose remains to be seen, maybe they find his money, maybe they kill Jesse and he wants revenge, who knows, but I established that those guys have some serious firepower and they are not afraid to use it which is why he needs that M-60.

i certainly can't see the writers jumping the shark on this scene but it possible, again, the happy birthday mr. president scene with skyler still has me scratching my head.

but, more likely, this scene and the absolute complete breakdown of ww via confession after seeing the texted pic of his money and all, combined with this scene can be an accelerated descent into failure for walt. again, i'm thinking it's a lot to pack into an episode and perhaps the spped of it threw me off.

Everyones aim is a bit off

Too give Hank his moment of glory but to also embarrass Walt for having always underestimated Jesse.

If Walt thought he could still get out of the situation and keep his money somehow then we would've seen the cocky, macho attitude. After everything he has done, Walt still won't cross the line of killing family. Walt knowing that all he has done is about to be for nothing equals his beaten down attitude.

Baaaaaad BAD shootout scene

Hank would have dead in the first 2 shots fired... WTF was that lame ass 1000 rounds of ammo being fired off but no one hit?

Hate unrealistic gun fights...

It's got us all talking about it though :)

BTW I loved this episode, I loved the fact that Walt has always been one step ahead of everyone and I really enjoyed how the table had been turned on him and he didn't see it coming. It's like a game of chess!

I agree 100% with you!

They should make the last few episodes longer, i.e. 90 minutes instead of the standard 45.

It looks that way but why not end the episode with his death? I've learnt not to try and second guess Breaking Bad :pimp

I love the fact that in the space of two episodes Walt has gone from not even considering the idea of killing Hank & Jesse to ordering their executions.

Depending on how the next episode unravels I honestly don't know if there is anyone that Walt won't sacrifice to save his own skin, if Hank does die then Marie is going to have to be murdered too!

I'll say it again, Best TV Show EVER!

I'm wondering if Hank & co recorded that phone conversation :2 cents:

Actually yeah that was pretty lame :disgust

but that's what i'm saying. it's very out of chararcter at this point for white to have allowed that. his only act of defiance was to call pinkman a coward after shrader read him his miranda?

that's way way out of character for white by now. especially after the garage door shutting scene.

and i get how white finally crossed the line of killing jesse while not crossing it re: killing family but nevertheless, a defiant white should of had some choice words to say to shrader instead of just voluntarily being subjugated, especially in front of pinkman.

at least, that is how i understand the character after 7 seasons.

7 Seasons? Have you seen another 2 seasons that the rest of us have missed? :winkwink:

talking about a cheesy cliffhanger ending isn't the kind of chat this show is after. i know you are going with the *any publicity is good publicity* thing here but that's really not what this show is about.


walt hasn't ordered shrader's execution. in fact he did the exact opposite, he not only didn't order it, he tried to stop it.

dddddddddddddd

I think Gomez will die...

If we know anything about the show, they usually don't do cliffhangers. Meaning, if Hank didn't die by the end of the episode, then he's not going to die at the beginning of the next one. Something miraculous, but smart will resolve the situation without Hank dying.

i figure that's why they showed gomie cringing at the end and no more shootin from him, he's the dead one in this scene.

but it was a cliffhanger.

Hmmm Sorry my bad, just rewatched the last 10 mins of the episode. Walt called the nazis and then once Walt saw Hank pull up with Jesse he cancelled the hit on Jesse.

My mistake!

You're right about the cliffhanger though, that was unnecessary.

any thoughts on the andrea scene? it seems incongrous.

i'm not so good at the maths. :mad:

I think the scene seems a bit off because they've crammed too much into one episode, in previous seasons everything that has happened in the previous episode would have happened in at least 2 or 3 episodes.

To be fair I think this season should have been 2 seasons, 5 & 6 with a few extra episodes in each season.

Perhaps they are cramming so much in each episode to speed up the pace of the story for the big finale

i'm sure it must be to establish those 2 characters again for something upcoming. brock will be a pawn again i suspect.

I read the interview with JR and he said he was shocked at the ending.

ya lost me. who's jr and which ending? the ultimate ending or the ending of this episode?

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pu...283jr_2662.jpg

Roll on next week! :pimp

RJ Mitte aka Walt Jr

Hank will on is deathbed admit he is gay

At that point Walt's been beat, not only that but they are gonna get the money as well. When Walt thinks he has the upper hand then he is a cocky bastard. Walt's fucked and he knows it.

I think Jesse will be forced to cook for the Nazis because they now know about Andrea and Brock and where they live.

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I bet you'd spend at least a good hour looking at his mineral collection in hopes to get in those pants.

just going by shraderbrau, he's the only one who didn't know.

http://awesomenessbyvolume.com/wp-co...1/hankbeer.jpg

LMAO. What the hell?

HAHA :)

There is a whole load of Breaking Bad minisodes, they are just extras from each season that are on the DVDs & Blu-rays. You can find them all on YouTube



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