But at the same time it will go down because the markets are opening up AND people can finally choose who to get care with.

http://watchdog.org/92975/irs-leviat...rce-obamacare/

'That task will require new agents — 6,700, the IRS figures — and more money — about $1 billion more than the current budget.'

'Confronted with the tax agency’s 9-percent increase in its 2014 budget, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., blasted Deputy IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel at a meeting of the House Committee on Ways and Means Thursday morning.

After reading off a long list of instances of waste, fraud, excess and abuse at the agency over the past several years, Ryan demanded to know how the IRS felt it had the “moral authority” to ask for more money. He actually sounded almost hurt by the request.

Werfel meekly responded that the additional funding was essential to the agency’s expanded enforcement mandate.'

Someone from Congress said that? Now that's funny.

Paul Ryan, which makes it even funnier

what's sad, of course, is he's right.

There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.

Someone is WAY behind on their payments to me....

Why bother working because she could sit here on GFY and make a grand? Then she wouldn't have health benefits. At least working for the doctor she makes more than a grand a month AND has health benefits.

I don't know how much the health benefits were, but when they looked four years ago or so it was nearly as much as what my wife was making.

Ok, but last I checked, 6,700 <> 16,000 (Trump's claim). So my question to Onwebcam stands: Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?

Congrats on your fundamental understanding of how insurance works. Indeed, insurance is pooled risk. All pay into it and some will utilize it more than others. Maybe you won't utilize it much but your sibling will. It is just like car insurance, it doesn't drop to zero if you do not have any claims. It is a guaranteed fact though, that the vast majority of us, over our lifetime, will consume almost as much, or more than we put in. That is why insurance companies invest premiums to make the pool larger.

I guest next you will argue that since investing is a zero sum game, when insurance companies are up on their investments, the guy that is down is getting screwed.

It is pretty much always a safe bet to be on the other side of whatever Trump is. The guy has been reduced to licensing his name and ripping people off. He exaggerates everything, including his net worth. Then there all of the bankruptcies. Plus that whole birth certificate mess where he repeatedly lied.

Only a fool listens to anything Trump says. No wonder onwebcam does.

Regurgitating quotes from a colossal bullshit artist doesn't exactly earn ya "smart guy" points.

So someone did find a downside.

Your friends medicine if it's true has gone up with 1078%.

I think that's a bit of a too high raise for your friends medicine, just to finance obamacare.

I wonder what the percentage is for other medicines?

Anywhere you can read about that?

:1orglaugh i guess you were right when you said you don't know the details.

So you're not going to address the Donald Trump thing I asked about nearly a day ago?

Isn't this a huge part of the plan? New companies will be able to operate in new areas, allowing for increased competition. Everything will be handled through exchanges, where we can compare costs, and the ones with the lowest costs will win. Just the fact that people who have pre-exisiting conditions will be able to change healthcare providers is going to make a huge impact.

Trump is great. He's made a career out of blowing other people's money. He borrows money to build huge buildings, then charges huge amounts to supervise construction and then run it into the ground. The vast majority of his projects eventually fail, and he walks away slightly richer.

MojoHost considers good health insurance a core value. We pay $600 premiums for our single employees, $1200 for employees with spouses and $1800 for employees with families - monthly. Once I finish getting the facts about how Obamacare affects us, I think I'll start a thread. From what I've been told thus far, it's horrendous and penalizes us as an employer and our employees for providing such a rich suite of benefits and paying all of our employee & family premiums.

Brad

Imagine that, an employer who values the well-being of his employees. Would never expect less from you Brad:thumbsup

Yeah, America.

The plot thickens.

So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine.
Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican.
They can't pass a law that violates the constitution.
It violates the 4th and 5th amendments.
4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody)
5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent)
my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.

When you hear the thoughts he strings together, it's almost impossible to believe he got rich on his own. Maybe he shits money.