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Captain Kawaii 10-05-2013 12:09 AM
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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 19822625)
His moment of clarity was well spent. clappa clappa clappa:)

DTK 10-05-2013 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19822714)
It's rocks so well that you get 16,000 new IRS agents and not doctors.
Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?

DTK 10-05-2013 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19822744)
Big businesses like Wal Mart love to find ways to "cheap out". Imagine their surprise when they found out Obamacare is the ultimate way to cheap the fuck out.
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

DTK 10-05-2013 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19822746)
I'm glad I've finally opened my eyes and saw all these politicians for what they really are. I look back at the way I use to think and it's almost embarrassing to me that I was such a dupe.
Massive props, dude.

Rochard 10-05-2013 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19823308)
YOU just said "Will it increase the healthcare costs for some people? I'm sure it will."

There you GO..

Taking from one to give to another...
With any law, some people will benefit, others will not see the direct opposite. That's called "life". Get a helmet.

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19823308)
And just because you do NOT believe the hours thing.. LOL, so throw that out.. NOT.
Even WalMart has suddenly reversed track and is now increasing their full time staff. One of the main points of this law is to make it more profitable to give healthcare. And this is exactly what just happened with my wife's employer. Healthcare for our entire family would cost MORE than what my wife makes. Now under this new law it makes it advantageous for her employer to give our entire family healthcare.

So far, win win.

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19823308)

I will find out soon. Have a very good friend who is diabetic. He currently pays $1,800 a month. He will try to get on the website next week..... I'll report back...
The reason your friend's healthcare costs are so high are most likely because he has a pre-exisiting condition and he is unable to change healthcare, so he is getting soaked. I have a friend who has the same problem - he can't change healthcare providers because of pre-existing conditions. Under Obamacare he should be able to with no problem.

Rochard 10-05-2013 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19823315)
Just got back from a night out and a few beers with a friend who works for a large computer manufacturer and has good coverage through them. We always get into politics and he's pro-obamacare but during our conversation he asked me why I think his life saving medication went from $23 every 90 days to $248 every 90 days recently. I said "welcome to obamacare."
Why did his medication go up? How did Obamacare affect that?

BV 10-05-2013 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19823616)
Why did his medication go up? How did Obamacare affect that?
Probably because the ins. companies will now have to insure people that pre-obamacare they did not want to - because of their costly medical conditions - they need to make up for it by raising costs (lowering coverage) overall

arock10 10-05-2013 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19823308)
YOU just said "Will it increase the healthcare costs for some people? I'm sure it will."

There you GO..

Taking from one to give to another...

And just because you do NOT believe the hours thing.. LOL, so throw that out.. NOT.

NOT Every State is the Same.

Like I said, let's just wait and see...

I don't believe all these people saying their rates doubled either, so I tell them SHOW me...

I will find out soon. Have a very good friend who is diabetic. He currently pays $1,800 a month. He will try to get on the website next week..... I'll report back...

Another friend makes zero in income, and my state didn't take the 45 million or something to expand the Low to no income coverage, so she doesn't qualify, but IS required to buy insurance now????

IDK, I will check this one out myself also...

The Union thing does affect me, as I don't like the union currently. They are just another arm of government, and run like a greedy business also.

They are saying for this contract raises are staying the same, but a huge increase to what the company pays the union, because of the huge rise in health care... ummm What???

Pay me that money, not the Union and let me get my own insurance...

ANYWAY...

it's not all bad, not all good either!

Honestly they should of had a panel put this together. (ACA)

To me it looks like Obama is the Best Insurance sales man on the planet.
He is also the best gun & ammo sales man LOL....
Your friend that makes nothing should already be able to just get Medicaid. The expansion was from 100% to 138% less then that was covered already


So if you have no insurance and they pay you the money and then you actually have a major health issue and rack up $500k in health costs and can't pay, it's ok to stick the tax payer with it then?

For the party of "individual responsibility" they sure are hypocritical. And yes that's how conservatives sold obamacare back in the 1990s because as you know it was created by conservatives. But since Obama wanted it obamacare is a hitler communist plot now

SplatterMaster 10-05-2013 11:39 AM
I find it ironic that a doctor can?t pay 1 employees family health care insurance?

Rochard 10-05-2013 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SplatterMaster (Post 19823711)
I find it ironic that a doctor can?t pay 1 employees family health care insurance?
It's not that the doctor can't, but... When you reach the point where the healthcare costs more than the employee's salary, something is wrong there.

Rochard 10-05-2013 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BV (Post 19823680)
Probably because the ins. companies will now have to insure people that pre-obamacare they did not want to - because of their costly medical conditions - they need to make up for it by raising costs (lowering coverage) overall
But at the same time it will go down because the markets are opening up AND people can finally choose who to get care with.

_Richard_ 10-05-2013 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19823338)
Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?
http://watchdog.org/92975/irs-leviat...rce-obamacare/

'That task will require new agents — 6,700, the IRS figures — and more money — about $1 billion more than the current budget.'

'Confronted with the tax agency’s 9-percent increase in its 2014 budget, House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wisc., blasted Deputy IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel at a meeting of the House Committee on Ways and Means Thursday morning.

After reading off a long list of instances of waste, fraud, excess and abuse at the agency over the past several years, Ryan demanded to know how the IRS felt it had the “moral authority” to ask for more money. He actually sounded almost hurt by the request.

Werfel meekly responded that the additional funding was essential to the agency’s expanded enforcement mandate.'

Rochard 10-05-2013 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19823730)
After reading off a long list of instances of waste, fraud, excess and abuse at the agency over the past several years, Ryan demanded to know how the IRS felt it had the ?moral authority? to ask for more money. He actually sounded almost hurt by the request.
Someone from Congress said that? Now that's funny.

_Richard_ 10-05-2013 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19823734)
Someone from Congress said that? Now that's funny.
Paul Ryan, which makes it even funnier

what's sad, of course, is he's right.

KillerK 10-05-2013 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19823725)
It's not that the doctor can't, but... When you reach the point where the healthcare costs more than the employee's salary, something is wrong there.
There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.

mikesouth 10-05-2013 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 19823765)
There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.
Someone is WAY behind on their payments to me....

Rochard 10-05-2013 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 19823765)
There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.
Why bother working because she could sit here on GFY and make a grand? Then she wouldn't have health benefits. At least working for the doctor she makes more than a grand a month AND has health benefits.

I don't know how much the health benefits were, but when they looked four years ago or so it was nearly as much as what my wife was making.

DTK 10-05-2013 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19823730)
http://watchdog.org/92975/irs-leviat...rce-obamacare/

'That task will require new agents ? 6,700, the IRS figures ? and more money ? about $1 billion more than the current budget.'

'
Ok, but last I checked, 6,700 <> 16,000 (Trump's claim). So my question to Onwebcam stands: Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?

epitome 10-05-2013 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 19823308)
YOU just said "Will it increase the healthcare costs for some people? I'm sure it will."
Congrats on your fundamental understanding of how insurance works. Indeed, insurance is pooled risk. All pay into it and some will utilize it more than others. Maybe you won't utilize it much but your sibling will. It is just like car insurance, it doesn't drop to zero if you do not have any claims. It is a guaranteed fact though, that the vast majority of us, over our lifetime, will consume almost as much, or more than we put in. That is why insurance companies invest premiums to make the pool larger.

I guest next you will argue that since investing is a zero sum game, when insurance companies are up on their investments, the guy that is down is getting screwed.

epitome 10-05-2013 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 19824000)
Ok, but last I checked, 6,700 <> 16,000 (Trump's claim). So my question to Onwebcam stands: Is there documentation for this, or do you take what Donald Trump says at face value?
It is pretty much always a safe bet to be on the other side of whatever Trump is. The guy has been reduced to licensing his name and ripping people off. He exaggerates everything, including his net worth. Then there all of the bankruptcies. Plus that whole birth certificate mess where he repeatedly lied.

Only a fool listens to anything Trump says. No wonder onwebcam does.

DTK 10-05-2013 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19824012)
It is pretty much always a safe bet to be on the other side of whatever Trump is. The guy has been reduced to licensing his name and ripping people off. He exaggerates everything, including his net worth. Then there all of the bankruptcies. Plus that whole birth certificate mess where he repeatedly lied.

Only a fool listens to anything Trump says. No wonder onwebcam does.
Regurgitating quotes from a colossal bullshit artist doesn't exactly earn ya "smart guy" points.

DraX 10-05-2013 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19823315)
Just got back from a night out and a few beers with a friend who works for a large computer manufacturer and has good coverage through them. We always get into politics and he's pro-obamacare but during our conversation he asked me why I think his life saving medication went from $23 every 90 days to $248 every 90 days recently. I said "welcome to obamacare."
So someone did find a downside.

Your friends medicine if it's true has gone up with 1078%.

I think that's a bit of a too high raise for your friends medicine, just to finance obamacare.

I wonder what the percentage is for other medicines?

Anywhere you can read about that?

noshit 10-05-2013 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19823727)
But at the same time it will go down because the markets are opening up AND people can finally choose who to get care with.
:1orglaugh i guess you were right when you said you don't know the details.

onwebcam 10-05-2013 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DraX (Post 19824038)
So someone did find a downside.

Your friends medicine if it's true has gone up with 1078%.

I think that's a bit of a too high raise for your friends medicine, just to finance obamacare.

I wonder what the percentage is for other medicines?

Anywhere you can read about that?
http://cbo.gov/sites/default/files/c...ug_pricing.pdf

DTK 10-05-2013 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 19824041)
So you're not going to address the Donald Trump thing I asked about nearly a day ago?

Rochard 10-05-2013 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19824039)
:1orglaugh i guess you were right when you said you don't know the details.
Isn't this a huge part of the plan? New companies will be able to operate in new areas, allowing for increased competition. Everything will be handled through exchanges, where we can compare costs, and the ones with the lowest costs will win. Just the fact that people who have pre-exisiting conditions will be able to change healthcare providers is going to make a huge impact.

Rochard 10-05-2013 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 19824012)
It is pretty much always a safe bet to be on the other side of whatever Trump is. The guy has been reduced to licensing his name and ripping people off. He exaggerates everything, including his net worth. Then there all of the bankruptcies. Plus that whole birth certificate mess where he repeatedly lied.

Only a fool listens to anything Trump says. No wonder onwebcam does.
Trump is great. He's made a career out of blowing other people's money. He borrows money to build huge buildings, then charges huge amounts to supervise construction and then run it into the ground. The vast majority of his projects eventually fail, and he walks away slightly richer.

Brad Mitchell 10-05-2013 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 19823765)
There is no way your insurance costs more then a grand a month, and if your wife makes less then that, why bother working. She could post on gfy and make a grand.
MojoHost considers good health insurance a core value. We pay $600 premiums for our single employees, $1200 for employees with spouses and $1800 for employees with families - monthly. Once I finish getting the facts about how Obamacare affects us, I think I'll start a thread. From what I've been told thus far, it's horrendous and penalizes us as an employer and our employees for providing such a rich suite of benefits and paying all of our employee & family premiums.

Brad

DTK 10-05-2013 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 19824119)
MojoHost considers good health insurance a core value. We pay $600 premiums for our single employees, $1200 for employees with spouses and $1800 for employees with families - monthly. Once I finish getting the facts about how Obamacare affects us, I think I'll start a thread. From what I've been told thus far, it's horrendous and penalizes us as an employer and our employees for providing such a rich suite of benefits and paying all of our employee & family premiums.

Brad
Imagine that, an employer who values the well-being of his employees. Would never expect less from you Brad:thumbsup

Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-05-2013 09:13 PM
Yeah, America.

Rochard 10-05-2013 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 19824119)
MojoHost considers good health insurance a core value. We pay $600 premiums for our single employees, $1200 for employees with spouses and $1800 for employees with families - monthly. Once I finish getting the facts about how Obamacare affects us, I think I'll start a thread. From what I've been told thus far, it's horrendous and penalizes us as an employer and our employees for providing such a rich suite of benefits and paying all of our employee & family premiums.

Brad
The plot thickens.

mromro 10-05-2013 10:16 PM
So you get a fine for not buying a private companies product? You don't buy it you are a criminal. Why not make it a law that you have to buy a Ford. If not you get a fine or buy a new apple iPhone or you get a fine.
Same shit . Illegal, unconstitutional and Unamerican.
They can't pass a law that violates the constitution.
It violates the 4th and 5th amendments.
4th to be secure in you documents(you don't have to share them with anybody)
5th the right to remain silent(in order to sign up for anything you have to speak, but you have the right to remain silent)
my advice, shut up, ignore it, don't give any information. let it fail and vote out the democrats until they repeal it.

bronco67 10-05-2013 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19824104)
Trump is great. He's made a career out of blowing other people's money. He borrows money to build huge buildings, then charges huge amounts to supervise construction and then run it into the ground. The vast majority of his projects eventually fail, and he walks away slightly richer.
When you hear the thoughts he strings together, it's almost impossible to believe he got rich on his own. Maybe he shits money.


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