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Grapesoda 10-16-2013 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19836414)
They actually call Gen Sherman the father of modern warfare. Sherman's massive destruction helped bring the war to a close quicker.
took everything my family had, and if you were to study any military warfare at all you find this a very old tactic, BTW just think how loud you would be crying if an American force did that today :2 cents:

dyna mo 10-16-2013 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19836181)

One little historical note to anyone that would say that the Civil War (or War Between the States) was not about slavery, just read some of the secession statements:

Texas:


Georgia:


Mississippi:
those quotes entirely show that the war was about the secession, not about slavery.

from those quotes-

Quote:
The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation.
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There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin?.?
the debate on this aspect of the war is long over. slavery was A big part of what led to seceeding, that attempt to suceed let to the northern aggression and the start of the civil war.

tony286 10-16-2013 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19836421)
took everything my family had, and if you were to study any military warfare at all you find this a very old tactic, BTW just think how loud you would be crying if an American force did that today :2 cents:
actually civilwar.org would disagree with you
http://www.civilwar.org/education/hi...t-sherman.html

We do that now and you dont see me cry. We kill 20 in a wedding party because they think maybe a terrorist is in the bunch. I think we shouldnt be there.

tony286 10-16-2013 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19836437)
those quotes entirely show that the war was about the secession, not about slavery.

from those quotes-





the debate on this aspect of the war is long over. slavery was A big part of what led to seceeding, that attempt to suceed let to the northern aggression and the start of the civil war.
It wasnt northern aggression, it was the us government coming in because secession is an unconstitutional act.

dyna mo 10-16-2013 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19836448)
It wasnt northern aggression, it was the us government coming in because secession is an unconstitutional act.
tony, in fact, it was not an unconstitiutional act, viriginia for instance, included the right to secede in their ratification of becoming a state in the union. a couple others as well, i can't recall.

dyna mo 10-16-2013 07:01 AM
more on the legality

A little-known fact of the Constitution is that two of the largest states -- Virginia and New York -- made the right to withdraw from the union explicit in their acceptance of the Constitution. And in such an agreement between parties as is represented by the Constitution, a right claimed by one is allowed to all.

Grapesoda 10-16-2013 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19836438)
actually civilwar.org would disagree with you
http://www.civilwar.org/education/hi...t-sherman.html

We do that now and you dont see me cry. We kill 20 in a wedding party because they think maybe a terrorist is in the bunch. I think we shouldnt be there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthage

The Romans pulled the Phoenician warships out into the harbour and burned them before the city, and went from house to house, capturing and enslaving the people. Fifty thousand Carthaginians were sold into slavery.[17] The city was set ablaze, and razed to the ground, leaving only ruins and rubble

I think the lack of general history is what causes 'liberalism' to be honest about it... and if your family had been burned out you would have a different view. just pointing this out as I have no emotional connection to the civil war, other than basic interest in military history.. one thing I have noticed about 'liberals' is the total lack of empathy for anyone that disagrees with their 'opinions'... first step on the road to genocide :2 cents:

Best-In-BC 10-16-2013 07:11 AM
You Americans, LOL, Million and One Ways to be One .

blackmonsters 10-16-2013 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19836421)
took everything my family had, and if you were to study any military warfare at all you find this a very old tactic, BTW just think how loud you would be crying if an American force did that today :2 cents:
Create some more slave states and test your theory of loud crying when it's burnt to the ground again.

:1orglaugh

Grapesoda 10-16-2013 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19836529)
Create some more slave states and test your theory of loud crying when it's burnt to the ground again.

:1orglaugh
you actually have no idea of the history of slavery do you? you think ignorance is funny? or are you getting a kick out of my family being killed and driven off their land?

blackmonsters 10-16-2013 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19836539)
you actually have no idea of the history of slavery do you? you think ignorance is funny? or are you getting a kick out of my family being killed and driven off their land?
I'll restate my response since you are so sensitive about me whining about slavery everyday.:1orglaugh

Restated : No one will cry out loud if the American government burnt down a newly created slave state in this country. We will cheer watching the slave state burn.

:2 cents:

dyna mo 10-16-2013 08:20 AM

bronco67 10-16-2013 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19836132)
My guess would be that neither person even knew that guy was there.

I was driving in my car today and surfing channels on the radio and hit Sean Hannity's radio show and stopped for a minute to listen.

I'm pretty sure that he is about as "conservative" as they get.

And he was talking about the confederate flag guy and the other guy who said that Obama should "put down the koran"
Sean Hannity said that both people were stupid and "idiots".

And then he very correctly pointed out that Democrats and the media are focusing on these two idiots instead of the valid points that the tea party people were making.

Instead of reporting about the debt being almost 17 trillion dollars now...and that Congress and the Pres. want to raise the Debt Ceiling (which was a law created 40 something years ago so that we COULD NOT go any further) yet again, all the media is reporting is the ONE guy holding a confederate flag.
Nice deflection from what's going on huh?

The debt ceiling has been raised over 50 times since it was started. It's completely useless if they just raise the amount every time. Why even have it?

It was supposed to stop the govt. from spending more than it makes.

But Hannity pointed out that instead of that being the focus...the media and the Democrats are putting the public relations smackdown on the Tea Party and showing a lunatic with a confederate flag and a guy who said something that was just plain stupid.

To say that represents all those tea party people would be like saying that George Zimmerman represents all Hispanic people.
Or Jeffery Dahmer represents all White people.

It's just not so.

I don't believe that citizens who are Democrats are all just like Nancy Pelosi either.

I personally think that Palin is bat shit crazy. She is a religious NUT.

Sen. Ted Cruz on the other hand? Smart guy. And he's got balls.

And we are seeing what the Republican and Democrat parties do to anybody who dares go against "Business As Usual" in politics.
They are out to destroy him.

The pundits on CNN and MSNBC talk about him like he's "crazy", and talk about "The adults getting back in the room" when they refer to the career/lifetime scumbag politicians in both parties who are attacking him.

Really? The "adults" are the ones who have ran up 17 trillion and want to keep raising the debt ceiling so they can borrow more money.
And the guy saying "Enough" is the child?

Only in politics could that bizarre scenario exist.
The Tea Party does have some valid points about the debt, deficit, etc. But the way they go about it...whoo boy. They come off like a bunch of ignorant assholes. They're a repellent bunch of morons to most people with half a brain. Like I said before --go on any Tea Party forum and read some of the posts. They're rabid, negative, paranoid, vitriolic. Basically things most people want no part of.

bronco67 10-16-2013 08:22 AM
Are there people here trying to make the case for the civil war not being about slavery? Now you need to go see a head doctor.

Grapesoda 10-16-2013 08:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by blackmonsters (Post 19836554)
I'll restate my response since you are so sensitive about me whining about slavery everyday.:1orglaugh

Restated : No one will cry out loud if the American government burnt down a newly created slave state in this country. We will cheer watching the slave state burn.

:2 cents:
never happen. so just keep on cryin' :2 cents:

dyna mo 10-16-2013 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19836584)
Are there people here trying to make the case for the civil war not being about slavery? Now you need to go see a head doctor.
i'm not making the case at all, i'm the messenger. tons of scholarly articles on the matter.

slavery led to the secession, the secession lead to war.


if that doesn't make sense to you, that's cool. :)

_Richard_ 10-16-2013 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19836437)
those quotes entirely show that the war was about the secession, not about slavery.

from those quotes-





the debate on this aspect of the war is long over. slavery was A big part of what led to seceeding, that attempt to suceed let to the northern aggression and the start of the civil war.
http://replygif.net/i/1319.gif

dyna mo 10-16-2013 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 19836596)
i have no idea what this pic is supposed to mean. could you explain it? i was replying to adg in discussion. he made a respectful comment re: the conclusions that scholars have made that i reported here, i respectfully replied.

dyna mo 10-16-2013 08:48 AM
As a panel of historians emphasized in 2011, "while slavery and its various and multifaceted discontents were the primary cause of disunion, it was disunion itself that sparked the war."

http://www.hnn.us/article/137673

Vendzilla 10-16-2013 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19836419)
Patriotic? Going to a couple of rallies to say fuck obama doesnt make one a patriot and its kind of an insult to the real patriots who died for this country.
It's patriotic to let your elected officials know you don't like what they are doing!

It's called free speech, ANYONE that is against that it UNpatriotic.

You should maybe spend some time reading what the founding fathers think about free speech? Do you really think they would have not let people protest the government?
Barry all but took away the right to protest on federal land.


It's a flag people, it's called a rebel flag. To most people that wave it, it's a symbol of being rebellious.

dyna mo 10-16-2013 09:04 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...00_Dollars.jpg

Vendzilla 10-16-2013 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19836110)
Jesus Christ dude, RELAX!! I disagree with alot of what you say but I don't call you names. Just chill the fuck down, have a beer, and re-read my question:

"So, you're ok with the party you love being associated with racists?"

The Party you LOVE is the republican party. The RACISTS I'm talking about is the Confederate-flag waving person and the Tea-Party that gave speeches at the same rally without denouncing him.

That's it, that's all. For fuck sakes..!

As for democrats receiving 90% of the black vote, do you really blame black people for this? Republicans are so pissed off because they think their message is not being received that they rely on voter suppression, especially black voter suppression, and gerrymandering instead of trying to actually do something that the American people, which includes Black and Brown people not just old white people, want.
I call Bull Shit
You were going on about the republican party calling them Racist, PERIOD
History of Democrats on civil rights terrible.

And for the FUCKING RECORD, quit putting words in my mouth ASSHOLE. I don't give a shit about either party
The GOP has changed from where Ronald Reagan left it with no real leadership.
The Democrats have had more power than the GOP since Jan 2007 , they are really fucking things up!

lazycash 10-16-2013 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19835254)
The best way to deal with obvious attention seekers is to ignore them.
I try to ignore Mark's threads, but it seems I always eventually click them. :(

baddog 10-16-2013 01:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19836633)

It's a flag people, it's called a rebel flag. To most people that wave it, it's a symbol of being rebellious.
You think "rebel flag" is what they called it when it was created?

Just wondering, how old were you when Reagan was president?

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 10-16-2013 02:04 PM
Upon Closer Inspection
 
Quote:
Veterans groups came to Washington to protest the closing of Veterans memorials.

Their peaceful apolitical protest was taken over by Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin and the Tea Party.

The organizers of the Veterans protest issued this statement:

Quote:
The political agenda put forth by a local organizer in Washington DC was not in alignment with our message. We feel disheartened that some would seek to hijack the narrative for political gain. The core principle is about all Americans honoring Veterans in a peaceful and apolitical manner.
It turns out that the Confederate flag protestor, Michael Ashmore, claims to be a discharged disabled vet suffering from PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) as a result of a tour in Afghanistan, and that he drove 24 hours from Texas, to participate in the protest because he was angry that he had not received his disability check.

https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/...91495273_n.jpg

Anyway, here is an un-edited letter from Michael Ashmore explaining his waving of the Confederate battle flag at the White House:

Quote:
I want people to know what kind of person I am and maybe it will stop all the negative talk about me, probably not but I will try. I grew up in a small town in Texas, Hooks TX. My town consist of many different races (Black, white, Hispanic, Asian) I am also friends with some of them.

I grew up in a poor home, dad worked many jobs to make ends meet. He was a great dad. He died August 10th 2013 of cancer. I didn’t really know my mom until I was about 19. We are talking now and I am happy to know her.

I know things were rough back then and I don’t blame my mom at all, and I will always love her. I have 4 siblings. 2 brothers, and 2 sisters. I don’t know them that well. I am trying to get to know my sister Michelle. We have been talking for the past 4 years. And she has helped me a lot.

I joined the marine core when I was 19 years old. I served almost 4 years and I served in 1 tour over in Afghanistan. I was there for 8 months as a rifleman (0311). I was honorably discharged early to take care of my father. Did I mention he was a great man.

I now travel around the country for my job. I work 12 hour days 6 days a week and 8 hours on Sunday, Most of the time. I don’t get much time to go home. Witch is fine seeing as I am young and love this country and now I can see it all through my travels. I work with some great guys. They give me support and compassion when needed. I couldn’t ask for any better people to work with or for.

Now for the comments about me being a racist and waving the confederate flag in front of the White House were the first Black President and First Lady live. For most people the flag represents hate and racism. But not for all. We as the people some times are so close minded to what we believe, we don’t look at what others might believe.

For me the flag doesn’t represent hate, racism, or diversity. It represents we’re I come from, It represents the love I have for my country, family, and friends. In a post I was reading earlier today a man named Chuck Jines said in his article that ” I was ignorant to wave the confederate flag at the White House were the first Black President and First Lady live”. Because it represented hate and racism. In his eyes maybe and maybe a lot of others. But to me, Michael Ashmore it represents none of the above.

I do not disagree that the civil war was fought over slavery. It was. But if you think that is all it was about then you are blind. Ignorance is bliss. And to be close minded is just the way most people are. I can not change that. I can only except it and keep moving forward in my life. I know who I am, and I am proud of it. And I will stand proud in any town and hold the hands of all my brothers and sister that I fought for.

To not except me for what you think I stand for ( and not the real me) is ignorance. So I pray for you and all the other people in this great country. So maybe one day we will look at each other through different eyes. And not judge each other. Because that’s for God to do. God bless.

Michael Ashmore
Another pic from Michael Ashmore's Facebook:
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/...21776755_n.jpg

Things that may you go hmmm...

BTW, did anyone notice that the Shutdown is about to end, and the Debt Limit can will also be kicked down the street for a few more months? Cruz loses...

:stoned

ADG

_Richard_ 10-16-2013 02:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19837091)
It turns out that the Confederate flag protestor, Michael Ashmore, claims to be a discharged disabled vet suffering from PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) as a result of a tour in Afghanistan, and that he drove 24 hours from Texas, to participate in the protest because he was angry that he had not received his disability check.

https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/...91495273_n.jpg

Anyway, here is an un-edited letter from Michael Ashmore explaining his waving of the Confederate battle flag at the White House:



Another pic from Michael Ashmore's Facebook:
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/...21776755_n.jpg

Things that may you go hmmm...

BTW, did anyone notice that the Shutdown is about to end, and the Debt Limit can will also be kicked down the street for a few more months? Cruz loses...

:stoned

ADG
thanks for posting this

bronco67 10-16-2013 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 19837091)
It turns out that the Confederate flag protestor, Michael Ashmore, claims to be a discharged disabled vet suffering from PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) as a result of a tour in Afghanistan, and that he drove 24 hours from Texas, to participate in the protest because he was angry that he had not received his disability check.

https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/...91495273_n.jpg

Anyway, here is an un-edited letter from Michael Ashmore explaining his waving of the Confederate battle flag at the White House:



Another pic from Michael Ashmore's Facebook:
https://scontent-b-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/...21776755_n.jpg

Things that may you go hmmm...

BTW, did anyone notice that the Shutdown is about to end, and the Debt Limit can will also be kicked down the street for a few more months? Cruz loses...

:stoned

ADG
Just because he's a disabled vet doesn't mean he's not an asshole. He's "abled" enough to wave that flag around. And that second pic says it all.

dyna mo 10-16-2013 05:01 PM
well, he certainly cleared up my wondering about the significance of the 2 flags, thx for posting that adg.

whatever checks and balances there are for returning soldiers to be classified as disabled due to ptsd, well, he's been classified as disabled due to ptsd. i feel for that guy.

tony286 10-16-2013 06:02 PM
Ever realize when racist type things are called out there is always an excuse. lol

mineistaken 10-16-2013 06:11 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19837319)
Ever realize when racist type things are called out there is always an excuse. lol
Ever realize that white guilters and africans call out racism even if there is none very often?

tony286 10-16-2013 06:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19837332)
Ever realize that white guilters and africans call out racism even if there is none very often?
yep but this isnt that occasion.

tony286 10-16-2013 06:14 PM
Here is another one
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/1...n_4098371.html
Arkansas Restaurant Posts Outrageous Sign Calling Obamacare 'Punishment For Slavery'

there is an out cry then its backpedal time
“I apologize for the sign. It’s offending people, as it did," Howard told 40/29 News. "I didn’t intend for it to be racist-oriented at all.”

bronco67 10-16-2013 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19837332)
Ever realize that white guilters and africans call out racism even if there is none very often?
I 100% guarantee that ex-Marine had ill intentions when he carried that flag -- to the FUCKING WHITE HOUSE where a black president resides. I can smell it like a fart in a car.

Grapesoda 10-16-2013 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19837319)
Ever realize when racist type things are called out there is always an excuse. lol
ever realize anytime you dare to disagree with a liberal you are called a racist... LOL

Robbie 10-16-2013 07:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 19837399)
I 100% guarantee that ex-Marine had ill intentions when he carried that flag -- to the FUCKING WHITE HOUSE where a black president resides. I can smell it like a fart in a car.
Funny thing is....all of you people up in arms about the Confederate flag and the "black" president...

His family is from Africa. They weren't even in the U.S. when the civil war happened. His family were never slaves. (well, they probably were in Africa...but we don't talk about that kind of thing)

Obama literally has no "skin in the game" when it comes to slavery in the U.S. :1orglaugh

Just Alex 10-16-2013 07:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19837413)
Funny thing is....all of you people up in arms about the Confederate flag and the "black" president...

His family is from Africa. They weren't even in the U.S. when the civil war happened. His family were never slaves. (well, they probably were in Africa...but we don't talk about that kind of thing)

Obama literally has no "skin in the game" when it comes to slavery in the U.S. :1orglaugh
Isn't he just as white as black? 50/50?

2MuchMark 10-16-2013 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19836633)
It's patriotic to let your elected officials know you don't like what they are doing!
Of course its patriotic and of course people should be allowed to protest. What is completely wrong and ridiculous though is for people to continue to say Obama is from Kenya, or to still question his birth certificate, and to call for him to be impeached. This gets on Fox news, then it becomes a theme, then senators actually start believing it.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/68...-s-impeachment



Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19836633)
It's a flag people, it's called a rebel flag. To most people that wave it, it's a symbol of being rebellious.

Yikes!!! Um.... no...



Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19836641)
I call Bull Shit
You were going on about the republican party calling them Racist, PERIOD
No, I didn't. I asked why someone like you, a republican, would think it was ok for Tea partiers like Cruz and Palin to participate in a rally with someone waiving a confederate (possibly racist) in front of the white house, without saying anything about it, which was quite different from what Sennator McCain did when he said NO MAM to the woman who called Obama an Arab.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19836641)
And for the FUCKING RECORD, quit putting words in my mouth ASSHOLE.
Yikes! Did I strike a nerve?

Vendzilla 10-16-2013 08:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by baddog (Post 19836995)
You think "rebel flag" is what they called it when it was created?

Just wondering, how old were you when Reagan was president?
it was called several things, Rebel flag was one of them, also refered to as The Confederate Flag, the Dixie Flag, the Southern Cross and the Stars and Bars.

The flag is part of our history and should not be pushed away in some dark corner because people want to forget it. It means different things to different people. If you don't like it, don't fly it.

I got out of the Iran Crisis because of Reagan while serving aboard a Submarine off the coast of Iran.

My daughter served aboard the USS Ronald Reagan, biggest war ship on the planet

Vendzilla 10-16-2013 08:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ********** (Post 19837463)
Of course its patriotic and of course people should be allowed to protest. What is completely wrong and ridiculous though is for people to continue to say Obama is from Kenya, or to still question his birth certificate, and to call for him to be impeached. This gets on Fox news, then it becomes a theme, then senators actually start believing it.







Yikes!!! Um.... no...





No, I didn't. I asked why someone like you, a republican, would think it was ok for Tea partiers like Cruz and Palin to participate in a rally with someone waiving a confederate (possibly racist) in front of the white house, without saying anything about it, which was quite different from what Sennator McCain did when he said NO MAM to the woman who called Obama an Arab.




Yikes! Did I strike a nerve?
Because I bash on the current administration , your limited thinking says I'm a republican. I'm not. Quit calling me that. You're just being an asshole reaching for that in anything you post towards me!

Why is it, that everything is wrong because of Fox news and the Tea Party when these people are not in charge? That's why I call you a moron because the Democrats have more power, things are fucked up and they have held most of the power since January 2007!

All you do is bash the GOP, you think it's all their fault. They have very little power with a democratic Senate and President.

Can I help it that we have a president that's still blaming Bush for a mess that after 5 years is still a mess? Every speech is used to put down the GOP, maybe if he tried to get along with them, something would get done?

bronco67 10-16-2013 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19837413)
Funny thing is....all of you people up in arms about the Confederate flag and the "black" president...

His family is from Africa. They weren't even in the U.S. when the civil war happened. His family were never slaves. (well, they probably were in Africa...but we don't talk about that kind of thing)

Obama literally has no "skin in the game" when it comes to slavery in the U.S. :1orglaugh
You've always got a contrarian, twisted answer to the things that are obvious to most people. It's a talent you have that you should be aware of. You'd do well in politics.

Barack Obama is black. What does it matter where his blackness originates from? And what does his "skin in the game" have to do with the intentions of some guy with a confederate flag who just sees a black man running his country? He just sees a black guy. Your logic makes no sense.

Have you ever been on the right side of an argument? If someone said it was bad to stomp kittens into a jelly-like pulp, you'd probably play devil's advocate for kitten stompers -- just because being on the opposing side of everything is fun for you. I guess that's ok, if that's your thing.


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