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noshit 10-17-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Barry-xlovecam (Post 19838014)

If you think Libertarian translates to anarchy, then you are anti-man and anti-life.
Hate yourself much?

Robbie 10-17-2013 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by noshit (Post 19838848)
If you think Libertarian translates to anarchy, then you are anti-man and anti-life.
Hate yourself much?

That's the b.s. that the Republican and Democrat party have put out there to discredit the Libertarian movement.

Of course it's not "anarchy".

What's amazing is that the people who are saying that are really saying that they are incapable of making decisions for themselves and need the govt. to run their lives.

It's pretty puzzling to me how that can be. But I must not think the same way as most do. I'm pretty damn confident that I can wipe my own ass without the govt. supervising me from cradle to grave. I guess a lot of folks are just incompetent and need to be under constant supervision like children.

sperbonzo 10-18-2013 06:10 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19838819)
I understand you dont know.
http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/fe...?currentPage=5
Marc Andreessen: Mosaic was built at the University of Illinois. I was an undergrad student, but I was also a staff member at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications, which is basically a federally funded research institute. When Al Gore says that he created the Internet, he means that he funded these four national supercomputing centers. Federal funding was critical. I tease my libertarian friends?they all think the Internet is the greatest thing. And I?m like, Yeah, thanks to government funding.

Tony, at the time, IBM and several other companies were working on it. The government funded project got there first, but to think that it would not have happened without it, is just silly, seriously.




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mikesinner 10-18-2013 06:37 AM

Government is the only thing that keeps the rich from eating the poor and the poor from eating dirt.

tony286 10-18-2013 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19839229)
Tony, at the time, IBM and several other companies were working on it. The government funded project got there first, but to think that it would not have happened without it, is just silly, seriously.




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Yep you know better than Marc Andreessen. lol No they werent, lets not rewrite history.

Minte 10-18-2013 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mikesinner (Post 19839267)
Government is the only thing that keeps the rich from eating the poor and the poor from eating dirt.

You watch too many movies.

tony286 10-18-2013 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19839285)
You watch too many movies.

No look at history before the gov regs thats the way it was.

Robbie 10-18-2013 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19839270)
No they werent, lets not rewrite history.

But how did Al Gore invent it (or claim to have been the guy who funded it)?

The Defense Dept. "inventing" it happened in the 1950's and 1960's if you read the history.
Telenet was developed in the 1970's.

Gore became a Congressman in 1977.

TCP/IP protocol was standardized in 1982 when computer geeks all decided to agree on it. heh-heh

He may have been one of hundreds of Congressman who voted on appropriation bills without even knowing what he was voting on much later after the original idea for it was "invented"...but he personally didn't have much more than that to do with it from what I am reading.

What LATER became the internet was started by the Defense Dept. to help them in their never-ending mission of "defense" (you know, invading other countries to defend our "freedom" lol) as far back as the late 1950's

Plus, it was a TINY TINY appropriation of money in comparison to all the bullshit that the govt. "funds" with taxpayer money.

As a Libertarian...I don't see why the govt. still wouldn't be involved in such beneficial things.

Reducing govt. down to a manageable size and keeping it from interfering in personal decisions, our sex lives, invading other countries, giving money away to cronies, and spying on us and keeping us under surveillance while imprisoning more of us than any other country on Earth...that wouldn't be a detriment to the govt. actually doing beneficial things for society in a controlled manner by WE the people.

Unless that too is considered "anarchy" by Republicans and Democrats (which of COURSE it would be because they would lose their power)

Minte 10-18-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19839288)
No look at history before the gov regs thats the way it was.


How do you even go to sleep at night. Your mind has to be going at least 100mph.

Are you really concerned that some evil rich person is ready to turn you into a slave?

Maybe take 1/3rd of everything you make..or even tell you when it's ok and not ok to do things? And when things get really harsh, they conscript you and send you off to places you'd prefer not to be to do things you'd prefer not to do, for years!

Grapesoda 10-18-2013 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19839302)
How do you even go to sleep at night. Your mind has to be going at least 100mph.

Are you really concerned that some evil rich person is ready to turn you into a slave?

Maybe take 1/3rd of everything you make..or even tell you when it's ok and not ok to do things? And when things get really harsh, they conscript you and send you off to places you'd prefer not to be to do things you'd prefer not to do, for years!

the theory of money for liberals: money is 'somehow created/creates itself', then rich people steal all of it

ThunderBalls 10-18-2013 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Grapesoda (Post 19839358)
the theory of money for liberals: money is 'somehow created/creates itself', then rich people steal all of it

The theory of money for republicans: I'm a self serving narcissistic prick who thinks I deserve everything and the rest of society can fuck themselves.

Jel 10-18-2013 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19838941)
I guess a lot of folks are just incompetent and need to be under constant supervision like children.

Just to add a quick thought - I think most people spend too much time worrying about other people, and making sure other people are regulated. That's where the fear comes in (but those other people will do xyz), that every govt ever in existence anywhere has preyed on. The fear 'wins' over everything else, to the point of people relinquishing their own freedoms to make sure the 'baddies' don't get their freedoms.

Great thread btw everyone :) :thumbsup

CDSmith 10-18-2013 10:09 AM

Repub or Dem?

Neither.

What do you mean 'neither'? You're either one or the other. So what are you?

I'm a voter.

A voter?

Yes, a free thinking voter. I vote the issues, not the party. I don't tow the party line. I choose my candidate(s) based on their politics and their strength of character, not which party they're with.

So, you're a communist. Or one of them Libertarians. 'Free thinker', ha!

No, I'm neither of those either. I'm just an American citizen and a voter.

So, who did you vote for last?

Obama.

AHA! COMMIE! I KNEW IT!


:D


This American ideology that everyone must be pigeonholed by political affiliation is absolutely astounding to me. I've actually seen match.com profiles in the past where women are saying "Oh and if you're a (democrat/republican, I've seen both) don't bother contacting me"

Absolutely astounding.... and a little confounding.

crockett 10-18-2013 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19839289)
But how did Al Gore invent it (or claim to have been the guy who funded it)?

The Defense Dept. "inventing" it happened in the 1950's and 1960's if you read the history.
Telenet was developed in the 1970's.

Gore became a Congressman in 1977.

TCP/IP protocol was standardized in 1982 when computer geeks all decided to agree on it. heh-heh

He may have been one of hundreds of Congressman who voted on appropriation bills without even knowing what he was voting on much later after the original idea for it was "invented"...but he personally didn't have much more than that to do with it from what I am reading.

What LATER became the internet was started by the Defense Dept. to help them in their never-ending mission of "defense" (you know, invading other countries to defend our "freedom" lol) as far back as the late 1950's

Plus, it was a TINY TINY appropriation of money in comparison to all the bullshit that the govt. "funds" with taxpayer money.

As a Libertarian...I don't see why the govt. still wouldn't be involved in such beneficial things.

Reducing govt. down to a manageable size and keeping it from interfering in personal decisions, our sex lives, invading other countries, giving money away to cronies, and spying on us and keeping us under surveillance while imprisoning more of us than any other country on Earth...that wouldn't be a detriment to the govt. actually doing beneficial things for society in a controlled manner by WE the people.

Unless that too is considered "anarchy" by Republicans and Democrats (which of COURSE it would be because they would lose their power)

You sit here and complain that others are just repeating the party line, then you go on to repeat the same BS lines about Al Gore inventing the internet.

It's really not that hard to find out the truth of this.. Al Gore NEVER said he invented the internet that's what Right wing retards kept repeating over and over again trying to discredit him and make people believe their bull shit.

The same bullshit they did trying to discredit him on Global Warming.

It's very easy to find the truth of what he said. Instead of repeating right wing propaganda and bullshit.

Here even Snopes has the run down..

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

Robbie 10-18-2013 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19839596)
You sit here and complain that others are just repeating the party line, then you go on to repeat the same BS lines about Al Gore inventing the internet.

It's really not that hard to find out the truth of this.. Al Gore NEVER said he invented the internet

I didn't repeat anything genius...I was riffing on Tony joking earlier in the thread about Al Gore inventing the internet.

You must have missed that part.

crockett 10-18-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19839674)
I didn't repeat anything genius...I was riffing on Tony joking earlier in the thread about Al Gore inventing the internet.

You must have missed that part.

You were obviously trying to denote Al Gores role in "creating" the internet. Yes that is the word he used.

You even went on to say he may of been one of hundreds of Senators to sign something. Umm sorry to inform you but he sponsored the act that linked universities together via the shared link that later became the internet. He later cosponsored the bill that made the internet public.

Yes he had a hell of a lot to do with making the internet what it is today and he did a hell of a lot more than just being one of hundreds to sign a bill.

Al Gore may not of been perfect, but he sure as hell was very informed on technology and he did a lot for this country on the technological front.

uniquemkt 10-18-2013 02:21 PM

After taking that political compass test, I have to say that a lot of the questions are just written too vaguely. I found myself wonder what they were *really* trying to ask with their question, and obviously introduced a level of error in how I was scored. For what it's worth, I ended up around where I thought I would, but I don't feel like science got me there.

Grapesoda 10-18-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19839380)
The theory of money for republicans: I'm a self serving narcissistic prick who thinks I deserve everything and the rest of society can fuck themselves.

man those nuts must be hurtin!!! whoa....

dyna mo 10-18-2013 02:25 PM

i should a gone with my *are there any librarians here?* spin thread yesterday, this thread won't die1

http://img100.xvideos.com/videos/thu...6886d1b4.3.jpg

Robbie 10-18-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 19839690)
You even went on to say he may of been one of hundreds of Senators to sign something. Umm sorry to inform you but he sponsored the act that linked universities together via the shared link that later became the internet. He later cosponsored the bill that made the internet public.

Guess you didn't google "history of the internet" and educate yourself did ya?

Why are you even on GFY by the way? Are you even IN the adult industry? Or just a guy who likes to have orgasms over the Democrat party and argue with people about it on a message board?

ForrestBlack 10-18-2013 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderBalls (Post 19837199)
Go move to Sudan where there is basically no govt and spout your idiotic shit over there.

Sudan illustrates the problems with anarchy and is a pretty good example of what the difference between Anarchist and Libertarian objectives and the ensuing results are. In a Libertarian system, there are still checks against strongman warlords and thugs violating the natural rights of the people. They are not interchangeable terms, no matter how much the current administration would like you to believe otherwise.

Grapesoda 10-18-2013 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ForrestBlack (Post 19840113)
Sudan illustrates the problems with anarchy and is a pretty good example of what the difference between Anarchist and Libertarian objectives and the ensuing results are. In a Libertarian system, there are still checks against strongman warlords and thugs violating the natural rights of the people. They are not interchangeable terms, no matter how much the current administration would like you to believe otherwise.

you must remember the 'left' writes the common narrative due the 'lefts' influence in the media and grad schools

crockett 10-18-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19840034)
Guess you didn't google "history of the internet" and educate yourself did ya?

Why are you even on GFY by the way? Are you even IN the adult industry? Or just a guy who likes to have orgasms over the Democrat party and argue with people about it on a message board?

Why is it you continue to stick your head in the sand topic after topic? I just showed you what Al Gore did for the internet and you still can't accept that you didn't have a clue and probably still don't.

marlboroack 10-18-2013 10:00 PM

I just sell porn bro

SweetlysinxX 10-18-2013 11:14 PM

tl;dr but i am.

Even took a quiz when I was in high school that said I was. People should do what they want as long as they arent harming another, right?


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