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MrMaxwell 10-30-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19853505)
I hate to disappoint, but my first car was a 1960 VW Beetle that I paid $200 for. And I did deliver papers as a kid to earn it. I can thank the US Army for a good jumpstart in my career. Along with the solid work ethic and respect for the chain of command that I got from that experience I also got to use the GI bill for college.

I am nominated for Businessman of the Year in Wisconsin and If I win I will be sure to email you the link to the news articles. The complete story and history of the company is in it. We were also named this year as one of the 5 fastest growing plastics companies in the US.

However, search is your friend. I have answered your question more than once.


I know that you don't like me too well, but I have always seemed to like the way that you think. I don't think of you as some white bred over advantaged fuck, at all.

MrMaxwell 10-30-2013 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19854010)
That's bull..you're not happy for me. You'd be happy if I never posted here again and went bankrupt. I posted my corporate headquarters precisely for that reason. You think you are playing with kids.. You're not.

I try and remain civilized here. Yet you and your type always want to push harder for no obvious reason. If you think I am going to post a P&L to prove anything you're dreaming.
My business interests are diverse and we are doing well in America.

You should be happy that I am providing health insurance for many people, and will pay more than my fair share of taxes this year. You should be happy that people like me do a lot for the community and for charity. I put this out last time you attacked me.

I am sponsoring and funding 1,000,000 meals to starving children in Haiti. How about you and Rochard getting involved. I could say fuckem' let them starve and take a private jet on vacation for a few weeks. That's not how it works.

I realize that I've been able to maintain growth for a lot of reasons and I respect that and give back to the community. When you attack people like me you are making a mistake.
I am not the enemy.


I extremely applaud you for giving a fuck, and that is all amazing, but feed the starving children here in the states. Why does everyone always give so much help to other countries? There are people in need right here in the states. Everyone is too busy donating to other countries and animal foundations... you know.. help people in the states.

xNetworx 10-30-2013 12:12 PM

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adendreams 10-30-2013 12:17 PM

Why you (Minte) think I'm hassling you is a mystery...someone came in and said you inherited your daddies business..I didnt say that - someone else did... I was just saying how refreshing it would be if a guy who was born into wealth would just admit it and not be so defensive about it. With your over reaction to my simple statements you are proving the stereotype for me.

Far-L 10-30-2013 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19854020)
In 1986 my mainstream business began to grow rapidly. I have my degree in mechanical engineering but the growth meant hiring more engineers. Pretty soon after I grew myself out of my engineering position.

I liked computers and when the internet started I thought it would have merit to learn HTML.
The consultant I hired to teach me finally asked the question what do you want to build your website about? I told him Porsche's..He came back a few days later and said that Porsche was very protective of their intellectual property and I would be flirting with a lawsuit.

So he asked what was my second choice.. bikini babes! So we registered bikinipage.com. in 1998. Within a few months several playmates emailed me and wanted to be featured and it took off. Yahoo was good to the site. #1 or 2 listing for bikini babes for nearly 6 years. I made investments in several large paysites during that era. Silent investor.

I always told myself it was a fun and very profitable hobby but when it stopped being fun I would get out. Earlier this year a member of this board took it over and I am totally out now.
I still post and read GFY because during those years I did a lot of business online and made a lot of friends.

Sad day when one of the people that helped build this industry has to explain himself to those that are recent to the game.

Also, let it serve as a timeless lesson that just because someone doesn't know what someone else makes or does one shouldn't assume one or the other and treat them with any less respect accordingly. :2 cents::2 cents:

I know one of the most successful people in this industry still drives the beater he drove over 15 years ago. He started at the bottom. Now, he makes more in 60 seconds than most people here make in a year; in all likelihood the first billionaire of online adult, but he is so low key and humble about it that I have literally seen people talk at him like he is a one sale a week CCbill not even covering beer money webmaster posting about whether stats are up or down for everyone else. :upsidedow

theking 10-30-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19853423)
I am far from rich but do owe everything I have to a $75,000 loan I got from my grandfather, thru my father when I was 23. I did pay back $125,000 within 2 years.

Paying the loan back was expected. The interest I insisted. On the other hand my brother and sister both graduated from college and their education bills were never paid back nor expected to be paid back. Go figure.

I too started out with a loan of $50,000 which I paid back over a five year period plus interest. It started me out in a business that I continued in for more than twenty years. Since I define being rich as having a minimum personal income of one million gross per year I am not currently rich...but I do have more money invested in the market than the average bear...more than I will use in my lifetime.

Jel 10-30-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 19854107)
Also, let it serve as a timeless lesson that just because someone doesn't know what someone else makes or does one shouldn't assume one or the other and treat them with any less respect accordingly. :2 cents::2 cents:

Bang on :thumbsup

And just to add my own thoughts: even if you *do* know what someone else does or doesn't make, that shouldn't be a factor in how you treat them (plenty of good reasons to give someone shit or not, but solely on $$$ earned or not earned, isn't one of them) :2 cents:

Jel 10-30-2013 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 19854137)
I too started out with a loan of $50,000 which I paid back over a five year period plus interest. It started me out in a business that I continued in for more than twenty years. Since I define being rich as having a minimum personal income of one million gross per year I am not currently rich...but I do have more money invested in the market than the average bear...more than I will use in my lifetime.

pigshit

ps your country is shit :thumbsup

Shedevils 10-30-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19853567)
But you took over your daddy's established business, which pretty much ensured you would do well in life.

I have a good friend who is from one of the wealthiest families in the city here. His father recently sold a long held property for $25 million and has more money than I am sure he can count.

His son however has done nothing in life and is such a drunk that he is now living on an Indian reservation where his inability to function is somewhat more tolerated. He gets a few hundred a week from a trust fund designed to protect him.

There is another guy who I know from an extremely wealthy California family who inherited a mint when his parents passed away in an accident. It all went on blow and alcohol and it got to the point where his siblings and his own lawyers had to cut him off. He eventually overdosed on Vancouver's skid row.

Certainly a lot of people do well with entitlement, but I have found it can really fuck some people up.

sandman! 10-30-2013 01:23 PM

not me :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Zuzana Designs 10-30-2013 01:26 PM

Minte, I will be thinking about you Monday night when my Bears beat your Packers :thumbsup
Go Bears :)

OneHungLo 10-30-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19853962)
I'm happy for his success and have no idea nor care how he got there...just think it would be ironic if he inherited this company from his father and is following the classic stereotype of the born rich who "worked" all their life to get there.

Sad to post to post your corporate headquarters as if to say "Look what a big man I am!!!"

Must have hit a nerve if you've compelled him to post arial shots of his plastics factory :1orglaugh

sarah-teamcmp 10-30-2013 02:00 PM

I was raised in an area of mostly very poor people, my family included. I didn't really notice since that was just the norm until I got to college. The rich kids really blew my mind. I didn't realize some of these kids got boob jobs and nose jobs as part of their high school graduation gifts. Weird shit to me.

adendreams 10-30-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 19854175)
Must have hit a nerve if you've compelled him to post arial shots of his plastics factory :1orglaugh

this thread wasn't intended to be an indictment on Minte - a long conversation with one of my richest friends last night prompted it…the more he vehemently claimed to be a self made man the more he revealed how rich his father was - co-signed for everything, paid off all his loans, leg up the ladder all the way…this seems to be the norm with the born-rich…they are incredibly defensive and in denial that they were handed it all by parents, not that they don't work hard..many do - but how many of them would be working that hard on the factory floor instead of in the penthouse office.

Rochard 10-30-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19853575)
That's not true. And you can type it as many times as you need to and it still won't be true.
I realize that the same basic concept holds true for you as it does the OP. So I won't rehash the history of my business again.

Do you or do you not run the business that your father started?

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19853575)
Did Lightspeed inherit his success?

Not at all. Steve dropped out of college, worked for Starbucks as a programmer, then a Jewelry Company, then created his own programming business. Then got into porn.

His father had nothing to do with any aspect of his success.

georgeyw 10-30-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19853525)
I have known a few rich people/families in the past - It seems to me that it just means that when things are hard - IE now - Their problems are bigger than us poor people;-)...

I might struggle to pay a modest bill some months - They have bills that would make your eyes water that they struggle to pay - A lot of old money is tied up in property that often can't be touched.....

There are a lot of huge estates in the UK that have been turned into theme parks so that the 'super rich' owners can pay the bills...

That seems to be a pretty big problem with old money in the UK. Heaps of property that costs a fortune to maintain and it earns little to no cash...

Relentless 10-30-2013 02:53 PM

Born Rich is meaningless. Someone born to a family that has a few million tucked away has a big advantage over poor people but that kind of advantage usually gets squandered away within a couple generations or less. The market self-corrects for that sort of thing.

Born WEALTHY on the other hand is something entirely different. I'd bet you not a single person on GFY was born wealthy and other than one or two, not a single person on GFY has any chance of having their children born wealthy. When someone is born with a trustfund of a few hundred million... that doesn't ever go away. Decendents of railroad tycoons, banking vultures and oil titans, even several generations later are all playing by a very different set of rules.

Stop thinking people like Minte and people like the OP are so different. The gap between them may be large but it is tiny when compared to the gap between either of them and NFL Team owners. Millionaires and the poor are both being abused by Billionaires and yet they still think they so different from each other. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Rochard 10-30-2013 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 19854244)
Born Rich is meaningless. Someone born to a family that has a few million tucked away has a big advantage over poor people but that kind of advantage usually gets squandered away within a couple generations or less. The market self-corrects for that sort of thing.

Born WEALTHY on the other hand is something entirely different. I'd bet you not a single person on GFY was born wealthy and other than one or two, not a single person on GFY has any chance of having their children born wealthy. When someone is born with a trustfund of a few hundred million... that doesn't ever go away. Decendents of railroad tycoons, banking vultures and oil titans, even several generations later are all playing by a very different set of rules.

Having money makes it easier to make money. If I had ten million dollars in the bank when I was 18, I would most likely be in a different place today.

At the same time, my older brother, inherited millions of dollars when he was seventeen. He spent the next twenty-five years or so living well, never worked a day in his life... Until the money ran out. Suddenly he was forty-five and had never ever worked a day in his life.

slapass 10-30-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19854084)
Why you (Minte) think I'm hassling you is a mystery...someone came in and said you inherited your daddies business..I didnt say that - someone else did... I was just saying how refreshing it would be if a guy who was born into wealth would just admit it and not be so defensive about it. With your over reaction to my simple statements you are proving the stereotype for me.

You are so wrong about it is why. If someone inherited a few million and did nothing it would be gone Ina few years. Did he have more yep but it doesn't make the accomplishment less. That is the part you are missing.

mineistaken 10-30-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19853962)
I'm happy for his success and have no idea nor care how he got there...just think it would be ironic if he inherited this company from his father and is following the classic stereotype of the born rich who "worked" all their life to get there.

Sad to post to post your corporate headquarters as if to say "Look what a big man I am!!!"

Reading your posts it seems that nobody who was born to rich parents can not be the one who worked. Even if he worked all the time you would still say that he "worked".
What, should he be abandoned by the parents and only then you would agree that he worked?

TROLLENSTEIN 10-30-2013 03:32 PM

I do not understand what the problem is with Minte taking over and running a business he didn't start himself? I'd be proud to take over a family business and see it flourishing, wouldn't you? He's not being anything other than genuine when posting pics of his business headquarters, he's proud of it and you would be the same if it were you. Unlike 99.9% of people here he can actually back what he says up, and never makes a show of it. :2 cents:

mineistaken 10-30-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TROLLENSTEIN (Post 19854287)
I do not understand what the problem is with Minte taking over and running a business he didn't start himself? I'd be proud to take over a family business and see it flourishing, wouldn't you? He's not being anything other than genuine when posting pics of his business headquarters, he's proud of it and you would be the same if it were you. Unlike 99.9% of people here he can actually back what he says up, and never makes a show of it. :2 cents:

Well said.
Imagine if you were the most hardworking man who would start working at your fathers company and eventually take it over you would still be called only the one who "worked". Even if you were the most hard working person in the entire company you would still be called the one who "worked". Just because your father had the company.
Conflicting logic. :2 cents:

adendreams 10-30-2013 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19854210)
Do you or do you not run the business that your father started?


oddly quiet on this...

mineistaken 10-30-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19854320)
oddly quiet on this...

Better explain why do you automatically assume that everyone who inherited the business did not work hard since the beginning? Your logic is flawed on this.

kane 10-30-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TROLLENSTEIN (Post 19854287)
I do not understand what the problem is with Minte taking over and running a business he didn't start himself? I'd be proud to take over a family business and see it flourishing, wouldn't you? He's not being anything other than genuine when posting pics of his business headquarters, he's proud of it and you would be the same if it were you. Unlike 99.9% of people here he can actually back what he says up, and never makes a show of it. :2 cents:

For sure.

If my family owned a small convenience store that I eventually took over then took from being 1 small store to a statewide chain of stores that is still a very impressive accomplishment.

Jel 10-30-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19854320)
oddly quiet on this...

I hope he doesn't answer one way or the other, and leaves those grasping at someone to hate on, well... grasping :2 cents:

Relentless 10-30-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19854259)
Having money makes it easier to make money

Now compare that to the notion of having no need to ever make money.

It's an entirely different way of life. You think in terms of having a million and wanting three million. Having three million and wanting 17 million. When you start with 300 million in tax free investments you don't have to think about getting to 500 million. When you have 2 billion, 10 billion doesn't buy you anything 2 billion couldn't. With generational wealth it's points not dollars. :2 cents:

Minte 10-30-2013 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 19854162)
Minte, I will be thinking about you Monday night when my Bears beat your Packers :thumbsup
Go Bears :)


The Bears are due..I think it's been 3 1/2years since they beat the Pack? :)

Minte 10-30-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19854208)
this thread wasn't intended to be an indictment on Minte - a long conversation with one of my richest friends last night prompted it?the more he vehemently claimed to be a self made man the more he revealed how rich his father was - co-signed for everything, paid off all his loans, leg up the ladder all the way?this seems to be the norm with the born-rich?they are incredibly defensive and in denial that they were handed it all by parents, not that they don't work hard..many do - but how many of them would be working that hard on the factory floor instead of in the penthouse office.

You put my name in it.. And officially I was not born rich, not even close. I can set up and run presses..I can TIG weld expertly and after college I took a tool & die apprenticeship and I know my way around a shop.

Minte 10-30-2013 04:02 PM

[QUOTE=Rochard;19854210]Do you or do you not run the business that your father started?

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I run a business that my father and I started together. He retired in the mid 80's and passed away in the late 90's.

I have answered you this before in detail. You won't forget again, right?

Minte 10-30-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19854320)
oddly quiet on this...


Our resin supplier and their CFO was here this afternoon.
I was busy.

And as far as being oddly quiet. If you have friends that have done well, ask them this question sometime. What is harder. making a fortune or keeping it?

BareBacked 10-30-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Minte (Post 19854010)






I am sponsoring and funding 1,000,000 meals to starving children in Haiti. How about you and Rochard getting involved. I could say fuckem' let them starve and take a private jet on vacation for a few weeks. That's not how it works.






Wow that is awesome. You are a good man. How much is each meal?

dyna mo 10-30-2013 04:19 PM

congrats on the accolades and noms, minte!

Mutt 10-30-2013 04:20 PM

Far-L and his brother are from a rich family, every article written about Homegrown mentions some famous elite private school they went to.

And weirdly, somebody told me a long time ago that XXXJay comes from a very wealthy family.

I'm from a middle to upper middle - depends on what the definition of upper middle class is.

Jel 10-30-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BareBacked (Post 19854367)
Wow that is awesome. You are a good man. How much is each meal?

He even got shit for that :Oh crap :helpme

dyna mo 10-30-2013 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19854385)
He even got shit for that :Oh crap :helpme

wait till they fine out the e in minte is silent, then they will really think upper crust.

Jel 10-30-2013 04:50 PM

lol :1orglaugh

Rochard 10-30-2013 04:52 PM

[QUOTE=Minte;19854349]
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19854210)
Do you or do you not run the business that your father started?

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I run a business that my father and I started together. He retired in the mid 80's and passed away in the late 90's.

I have answered you this before in detail. You won't forget again, right?

Trust me when I tell you... I will forget.

So you didn't take over your daddy's business, the two of you "built it together". That's ten time worse than your father giving it to you.

Your father, a man twice as old as you, with twice as much business experience, and the ability to raise one hundred times more capital... Helped you. If you did this on your own at age twenty-three you would have failed. Without your father you would have had nothing at all.

If my daddy came to me twenty or thirty years ago and said "Let's a build a business" and I got to use his line of credit (that is a lot more than a broke twenty-five year old has access to) I too would have a business would be building a fountain in front of my huge office building too.

(You know I love giving you a hard time. Email me already so we can talk off of GFY. I don't have any contact information for you.)

fuzebox 10-30-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by adendreams (Post 19853397)
This is the classic "My dad made me get a paper route when I was 12...I started at the bottom rung in the mail room" but the more you hear it's apparent all school debts paid by daddy, loans co-signed for, trust funds established..

Found this as well, at least with my generation.

Far-L 10-30-2013 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 19854378)
Far-L and his brother are from a rich family, every article written about Homegrown mentions some famous elite private school they went to.

And weirdly, somebody told me a long time ago that XXXJay comes from a very wealthy family.

I'm from a middle to upper middle - depends on what the definition of upper middle class is.

Dude. My father was the son of a plumber. My dad was a Ph.D mathmatician that worked for IBM but we were never above middle class. We got in the schools we did based on scholastic and athletic merits and my dad had to get help to pay for it regardless. I borrowed money from my mother, who got a second mortgage on her condo, to buy the biz from bankruptcy and turn it into what it is today. Most of my education came from being on the road following the Dead around. We paid her back and kept paying until she left this world. My brother got into Stanford for his swimming and the fact that he was a prefect and an A student, all things that had to be earned, not given freely.

I know what AD is referring to because I went to school with the super elite, as did my bro.

You know everyone thought the Beatles came from money and the Stones from the other side of the tracks when the exact opposite was true. Assumptions... well... we all know how assumptions work...

And you seem to be making a lot of those these days. Don't harm yourself with assumptions unless you want to Markharm yourself with presumptions.


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