Legalize times 50!
And this concept I suggest is quite similar to the "ABC" that was born from prohibition and is a government ran entity .......that makes serious bank.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol..._control_state

They will just keep doing what they are doing.

They "educate" the public (propaganda) about how horrible drug use is.
The govt. predicted the damn apocalypse if pot were ever legal...then people saw Amsterdam (same thing with prostitution).

The govt. has figured out that if you just scare the shit out of people you can control them.

one thing u are missing is the economic cost of legal drugs. people that are hooked on coke or heroin are calling in sick to work. or robbing bodegas to generate funds for drug buys.

but overall i think u & i are on the same page. jonny is never gonna legalize; too many people make their livelihoods chasing down the pusher.

all im saying is that mules should grow some brain cells & get more creative in their transportation methods. trying to get thu customs is basically going to jail cause your dumb!

Robbie and DWB are dead on here too

the government NEEDS the drug trade...a very large portion of our economy depends on drugs being illegal its a very sad state that our once great country has come to this.

certain drugs really do make you wonder. when you see those meth heads "before & after" pics, its hard to say that chemical should be legal. it totally ruins people that get addicted.

it seems that sanity is creeping into the some politics cause pot is getting legalized on the state level. the feds will never give up the jobs, the careers that people build fighting drugs. but at least some states are starting to come around & see that some drugs are not killers.

Well, like I always said,only losers lose drugs;) and the users, well we smile when the day is bright!

Fun to discuss what could be a viable, economic solution for the whole twisted game. Stupid people should never try and open their minds eye, it would get messy, you are right. Shame thou, would be nice to use my mind and body they way I see fit. Simply because it was mine to do with what I feel right.

Methamphetamine is not what most of the bathtub crank you would read about, again, because it is illegal, people are making shit unpure:2 cents: Same goes with most of the chems

The majority of people addicted to heroin already get all they want anyway.

And just because something is no longer illegal doesn't mean that everybody is suddenly going to rush out to buy it.

Heroin was invented by the Bayer drug company and sold over the counter worldwide for years.
These days it's only called "heroin" when you buy it on the streets. When they give it to you in the hospital it's called "diamorphine"

As for cocaine...well, real cocaine (not other shit that people snort) is also already being used by anybody who wants to. And that includes a LOT of society around you. Doctors, lawyers, gov. officials, etc.

My thoughts are this: There ARE a tiny percentage of people in this world with addictive personalities. They kill themselves with anything. Most with alcohol. But pretty much ANYTHING.

But most people are capable of partying in a social atmosphere without becoming an addict. And they do that every weekend by the MILLIONS in this country.

Just like alcohol. Or any other recreational drug.

So no, I don't think that if coke were "legal"...that suddenly all those millions of people who already are doing it would become "addicts" or anything like that.

I'm pretty sure that the people who are addicted to anything are already fucking up their lives with or without the govt's consent.

And unfortunately, these stupid laws not only infringe on my personal freedom...but it makes tens of millions (maybe more, who knows?) of Americans "criminals" every day just by having a gram of coke to party on. :(

i wish i was one of the millions who can party. instead i am in that tiny percentage & even worse its just marijuana. peeple in my 12 steps call my drug light weight. but im not marketing my site just the same.

but im not here to preech; most people are not me. i simply wonder how, with 40 years of history, people keep trying to beat the customs man when so much of the country is wide open. answers suggest the probability of winning is sufficient to take the chance. not to me.

it would be nice that the govment will legalize but u know that in reality its never gonna happen & thats true cause of all the cop jobs the drug war creates. in light of these facts & the thing one can easily see on TV, i simply dont understand why anyone tries to sneak keys of coke thru an x-ray machine. may as well just knock on the prisons door & ask for entry.

Freedom of choice would allow the user to do as he or she sees fit???? That is witchcraft and you know it! That would mean, I could still run my profitable business that employs others that feel the same way, and still fuel the the government machine that took 14 grand this year alone, and still come home and love my wife and family, all well being a criminal???? What is this truth you speak.....lies all lies Love to sit and chat one day with you and the Misses, nothing but respect from what I have read and heard. Keep fighting the good fight

Cause they are angels sent from god!

Knock Knock Knock, we are here to take away your free forward thinking and may fuck your wife in the process, thanks for playing!

watch the BLOW movie and look how heart is ticking on border passing :D

BIG PAPPA!! :upsidedow:pimp

Wow...I didn't even think about the drone thing!

That's too funny! The govt. spending millions on sophisticated drones...meanwhile guys with RC quadcopters could be flying in kilos every minute of the day over the border. lol

One can only hope, i need a thread of freethinking to hold on to before I implode. Moving out soon...

We already have a law to deal with the 'drug problem', Darwinian law. Let people do what they want with their lives, including fucking them up and destroying them, there's no shortage of human beings on this planet.

I'd take one state/province, run electric fences around it and guard its borders with military, every person who's a fuck up and a danger or burden to society through their own doing, gets sent there. Let them figure out how to survive. New Mexico seems useless enough.

And to the bleeding heart liberals, they would have the opportunity to adopt/sponsor one or as many of the fuckups as they want if the thought of exiling them to Misfitland seems cruel to them - either take them into their lovely homes or provide them a home and food with their own money.

They have been using remote controlled quadrocopters to get drugs into prisons here for a while. Pretty clever thinking. It's always big news when the guards catch one. No doubt the same thing is being used to get drugs across every land border in the world.

:thumbsup

There are also alot of motion sensors. I used to hear on my police scanner "4011 Port 11 Hit". A Border Patrol guy would check it out and usually reply back "animal traffic or weather". The Border Patrol also drags areas to smooth it out. Then come back and look for footprints.

Not to mention the internal US checkpoints leaving any border town or border park. Sometimes they wave you through, Other times they have a dog checking everything. The Border Checkpoint on Interstate 10 East of El Paso has caught a few famous singers in their tour buses.

There are a ton of youtube internal checkpoint videos. The checkpoints aren't new, they have been there for years. Border areas are usually free trade areas where people can easily cross on either side to shop. And Mexican trucks can come into the US up to these points to drop off cargo. Checkpoints are there to people from taking advantage of that.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WKiYpsQhZsI I bet these guys get pulled over down the street by Highway Patrol. Highway Patrol loves to stop people near border towns.

yea funny there hasn't been much talk about it

Not just drones....ultralights, catapults, compressed air canons have all been used successfully for years to get drugs across the tonnage of drugs that come across just the mexican border on a daily basis is staggering...all made profitable by continuing the war on drugs....the bad guys need the war to keep the prices up and to keep themselves in business and the other bad guys (the government) need the war to justify spending taxpayer money, there really are no good guys in this war, both sides are equally corrupt.

It is kind of small, but lots of cool stuff is the Border Patrol Museum in El Paso. They have examples of the different types of soles that people add to the bottom of their shoes. Sometimes they put carpet on them. They have a motorcycle with a huge muffler.

The coolest thing I have seen was the smugglers rigging a cart to ride the rafters below the bridge. Here is the story where a wheel broke and the cart got stuck.

http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Apr...rant%2C00.html

"You can't knock the ingenuity. It's there," Border Patrol spokesman Doug Mosier said.

And according to Texas border ranchers the FEDS may be participating in.

Hehe...Ssssshhhhhh :winkwink:

Hell yeah. Lots of money being made out there by LEO. Undercovers can sell drugs all day. Arrest the buyers, take their money, take their car, and then they make you pay a fine.

Don't do drugs. The only people that win is the government and lawyers.

JoshGirls, stop playing stupid, you know why people try to go through customs.

I'm surprised no one has bought up Portugal. The Portugese decriminalised all drugs in 2001. Drug possesion and use is technically illegal but it does not go through the justice system. Basically the user has to go to some counseling sessions, maybe gets referred to a GP or something like AA, and thats it. Trafficking and transportation are still criminal offenses though. In the 12 years since the change drug use has gone down. Drug related crime has gone down, rates of STD infections from drug use have gone down, overdoes rates have gone down... And the gov't has saved a shit ton of money.

"The data show that, judged by virtually every metric, the Portuguese decriminalization framework has been a resounding success. Within this success lie self-evident lessons that should guide drug policy debates around the world."
http://www.cato.org/publications/whi...-drug-policies

Wow...I didn't know that about Portugal. Probably because the media here in the U.S. won't report that.

Our media just reports pretty much what the govt. tells them to.

crazy that there is over 10 years of data proving that decrminilisation, education and harm minimisation works and zero tolerance policy is an abject failure and yet this data is completely ignored by governments the world over. While Australia does not have the manic hard on the US has for the drug war we are still closer the the US end of the spectrum than the Portugese one, and it is fucking stupid. It works, we know it works, we have the evidence...

Pigshit.

The wife and I have been looking at properties in Azores, soon very soon we will taste air that is free:thumbsup