I pay him via Paypal. I don't ask for an invoice.

Well said. North Africa is a duplicate with different eyes and language. Every gov prick from top to bottom wants a taste when it comes to farang.

Aden, maybe you need to go and help in person. If you have the vagina for it.

I'm sure the exist, but I've never known one who didn't live somewhere near or in Manila. They all were tried by the outsourcing companies there. Maybe your guy lost someone and is upset, went somewhere to help, or is playing hooky.

Even the cam girls are back online in force.

Maybe his internet is not back yet...

I'm fully aware of the injustices and fucked up shit that goes on - the difference between you and me is that I dont try to capitalize on it.

You used to be funny but now you're just a burnt out asshole and all you do on here is talk shit and sling mud. I've heard how miserable you are shooting Thai ladyboys and whatever the fuck you do over there - you hate your life so much I guess it makes you feel a little better to come in here and try to make other miserable.

I've been to Thailand many many times and I know how badly those girls and ladyboys are exploited mainly by their parents - then pimps and people like you - I shot topless stuff over there and the girls had the saddest stories I have ever heard..shot 3 girls then said forget it - felt too exploitive. But you thrive on it - no wonder you came down on me for giving VD shit - exploitation is your bag.

You should just stop making an ass of yourself. The girls are no more exploited in Thailand as they are in LA, and the stories you heard are part of the spiel. DWB is one of the good guys in this business. But you dont seem to know much about the shit you type, so carry on making a complete ass out of yourself.

Yea right - does that make you feel better about what you do? I have spent years in Indo..Bali (Seminyak) Padang...Telo Islands...Nias...and I know full well how sleazy you must be to be pimping out girls in that beautiful nation. One look at your sites and it's clear you are worse than a pimp - you're a wannabe pimp.

Oh yea and DWB's assertion that Farangs don't fuck child prostitutes is a total laugh - leave walking street and look to the beach on your left and there are girls as young as 12 standing there lookin for tricks (maybe 12 doesnt qualify as a child in DWB's book) - but yea no white guys are getting them...and if you have been to Chiang Mai it's even worse...pimps are openly hitting you up on street corners to tell you about their underage wares...nice try.

adendreams

Seriously man, would you just stop crying and shut the fuck up? Do you need a Snickers?

You're making yourself look like an idiot while trying to change someone else's opinion. You don't agree with him, fine, let it go man..

BTW: posting dead people is against TOS here isn't it?

Also, thanks for all the publicity for VdBucks!

50 bitch!!!

or not...

You're fucking right he is! Wait til he is without his morning coffee... un-fucking-glued nutz! And we wouldn't have it any other way haha

Thanks for the plug

But man, you gotta realize, just because someone does not believe the charities are doing any good, doesn't mean the models aren't appreciated. Dude, we definitely hope none of the girls were hurt or lost their lives. I myself have a hard time with that, I'd hate to find out that any of the models were affected by the Typhoon and I KNOW for a fact that the person you have a gripe with feels the same way about the models.

Do some research man, the corruption is paramount with charities in the PI. Also, there are widespread complaints already that help is not arriving fast enough to help them. Sure, they need money, and if you think it will help, send money! Seriously. Just be aware that a very very large portion of it will not reach them.

Find Filipino communities in your locale that are banding together to assist loved ones affected back home and ask them where you should donate or how you could help. I'm sure they would love it if you could ship for them or provide them with donations.

Good thing your book counts for............absolutely nothing.

You're ignorant.

You've never been to the Philippines.

If you had, then you would have at least an inkling idea about the abject level of corruption. The 1% stays in power and steals all of the country's money to live their lavish lifestyles, while the rest of the country remains in deep poverty with little to no chance of escape.

I would be highly skeptical about any "charity" monies going to anyone in that country, red cross or not. Organization is not that country's best trait, so you really have no idea where the money is going once it hits the ground there.

Posting these ranting posts and all the pull-at-your-heartstrings photos of dead drowned bodies does nothing to change any of the aforementioned reality.

The World is harsh place.

Possible. Manila wasn't hit hard though. Either way, hope he's ok.

There are a lot of differences between you and me, but for the sake of this debate, the only difference is I shoot girls of color and you shoot white girls. Well, that and the fact that you're either lying about your travels or your extremely naive.

The fact that you think you're somehow different or better because of the location you shoot in shows how delusional and disconnected to reality you are.

Trolls, scammers, and losers get shit and mud. People worthy of respect get conversation.

But please, keep the personal attacks going, it shows how defeated you actually are.

I'm sure you heard all about it while you looked for those little girls you claimed to see on Beach Road. But yea, I hate every minute of it, that's why I've been doing it for longer than you've even been in this business.

Right there you just showed you don't know anything at all. Saddest stories you've ever heard. :1orglaugh Pure comedy right there, pure comedy.

You're such a fraud it's hilarious.

Whatever. You didn't see that unless you went looking for it and asked for it. And that is a fact. Kids running about doesn't mean they are for sale. No one is walking around offering kids to anyone. Not in Pattaya, not in Chiang Mai, not anywhere. If you recently found God or something, that's fine, but there is no need to lie to try to prove a point. It just makes you look like even more of a douche bag, because others have been there too and also know you're lying.

Do foreigners sometimes go with someone under the age of 18? Sure, it happens. It happens all over the world, and in every country, especially the more developed ones like the USA and Japan. That's life. Do locals approach random people trying to sell them kids? Doesn't happen. The year is 2013 and that shit (child prostitutes) is way underground.


:2 cents:

bullshit, there are nowhere near the support groups, resources and safety nets in thailand as in the US.

Aden bud, just give it up. You're in a fight that you know absolutely fuck-all about, and the pure ignorance in each and every post you make on this failed tirade of a thread proves this. So seriously, you don't know jack shit about jack shit so if I were you I'd just drop it and go back to ranting in that homeschooling thread. This is a fight you simply cannot win because you are too ignorant to even notice your ignorance.


But, seeing as how you took the time to single me out, let's set a few things straight shall we?

1. I do not shoot porn in the Philippines. Nor does anyone in my company. We buy porn that other guys shoot, mostly tourists who do it to make a few extra bucks on their trips. Some guys are more dedicated than others.

2. Demonizing the guys who do shoot porn in SE Asia is fucking joke. Girls who do porn shoots make FAR more than they would just fucking some guy for money in a bar. The average cost of getting laid in the PI is less than $50. So lets see, less than $50 for a "barfine" and done for the night (most of the time), vs $250 (lol, try more like $300-400) for the same amount of time spent fucking someone.

3. You hired 1 guy from the PI, and unless you pay him competitive US wages then everything else you said on the whole money part of your failed argument does nothing but prove you are a fucking hypocrite.

4. At present, I provide more than 100 times the number of jobs that you do in the PI, and I have far more invested in the PI than your little donation to the Red Cross will ever cover, and I'm not talking about the porn shoots we buy from independent guys.

5. I've donated more over the years than your one little donation this time could ever help to cover. And time and experience have proven one single solitary thing, donating is a waste of time because no matter how much good you think you're doing, you're not; the corruption is simply too deep, and the people will continue to suffer because their own government could not care less whether they live or die.

6. I've seen my fair share of bad storms, death and the helplessness those guys down there endure. At least twice I've weathered through storms I wasn't sure I'd survive. So I know first hand the devastation caused by natural disasters that strikes that country several times per year, every year. You don't even do a good job at pretending to know.

7. You are a complete fucking moron, a fraud, a hypocrite and well, a moron.

Seriously man, you don't even know what you don't know.

I think he means girls who make porn.

:1orglaugh:2 cents:

The current President and CEO of the American Red Cross (since 2008) is Gail J. McGovern, whose total yearly compensation for 2010 was about $1,037,000.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/charities.asp

http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/14/...ss_CH0013.html

I've lived full time in the PI for almost 9 years now. Odds are if you donate, at best 50% of what you give will make it to the people in need. BUT that is A HELL OF A LOT especially for people that at this point just need food and water. ANYTHING is better than nothing!

Why would someone suggest that 90% of what you give wouldn't make it to the people? Well, it's not that crazy of a figure:

Last month doing relief efforts for the 7.5 quake the mayor of Bohol wouldn't let the Red Cross in unless they agreed to let him handle disbursement: http://www.philstar.com/headlines/20...mayor-standoff

Oh, and like what's happening RIGHT NOW for victims of the typhoon, the relief trucks might get robbed: http://www.adobotalkph.com/2013/11/r...goods.html?m=1

Then there's the typical LOVE of red tape and inefficiency that's so prevalent here. Watching CNN yesterday the reporter was pointing out that no trucks were going into Tacloban yet but the relief goods and trucks were on the tarmac and the roads were clear enough for the CNN crew to drive in. So, um, why?

If you want to understand the cultural challenges: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crab_mentality

All that said, I reiterate ANYTHING given is better than nothing for people that have had their homes, loved ones, towns, lives wiped off the face of the earth. The sad fact that only a smaller percentage of what's given will likely get to the people in need makes it all that much MORE important that people who can help out financially step in and give.

That's just...for lack of a better way to put it - fucking sad. :Oh crap

so far as red cross stuff goes (they call it cruz roja here) all the donated clothes and warez sent to Haiti for aid end up in "la pulga" here, the outdoor flea markets for locals in the DR. Haitians ride the bus across the border with "cubes" of clothes/shoes/etc the size of hay bales then they sell them for profit to dominicans who want real nikes, adidas, brand name stuff, albeit used... flea markets are the only place to buy real brand name shoes etc in a 3rd world country because everything new in the stores here is cheap and made out of paper mache. my point is I don't see the red cross donations/goods helping the ones who need it most, in campos, tin roof shanty shacks, etc... its the big city hip crowd getting all the aid. never reaches the places most barren and remote

We recently had outrage at the amounts of money the executives of some charitys are earning. Some earn more than the British Prime Minister

"Some of the executives were paid more than the Prime Minister?s £142,500 a year in 2013, which is used by ministers as a Whitehall high water mark."

One of those charitys was the British red cross

"However, The Daily Telegraph can disclose that Sir Nick Young, the chief executive of the British Red Cross, saw his pay jump by 12 per cent to £184,000 since 2010, despite a one per cent fall in the charity?s donations and a three per cent fall in revenues."

This is making people wonder where a lot of the money actually goes to, be it the staff admin costs ect and just how much really gets to the people who need it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...an-100000.html

Also read the replies here

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...#disqus_thread

paying out 130 million pounds on wages is crazy for a charity

Here is a list of what charity bosses are getting paid

http://society.theguardian.com/salar...042677,00.html

This issue is getting seriously and wrongly sidetracked.

It is not about the salaries of the chief executives of Charities, it is about the loss, wastage and pilfering of aid that goes on locally.

Adendreams was right to raise awareness with the original topic, but wrong to act like a spoiled kid when people like vdbucks and DWB explained the reality of what will happen to most aid given.

It was also wrong to make this second thread although at least anybody who was unsure whether Adendreams truly cared about the issue more than the soapbox, at least got their answer.

Whilst I don't agree with the view that people shouldn't donate because undeserving people will profit from it, taking a stand in such a way is actually a good step in the long term battle against this corruption.

However, that is a battle for another day and as MarcWomack already said, for the sake of the people that really do need help NOW, people should be encouraged to give in the hope that whatever does make it through can make a difference.

Since your "help" threads have turned into attack threads....fuck you! I am not ashamed of what I do. I help girls, mainly single mothers, get more money from idiots like you when you visit our beautiful country. Instead of selling their pussy for $25 they get a shitload more. And guess what sport, I get nothing from them. So again, keep talking out of the side of your ass about things you dont know jack shit about.

Before I leave this steaming pile of shit you made I do want to say that people should donate to the red cross. As pointed out, something is better than nothing. And my last words to you, assface- Raimu koyo ASU:1orglaugh

wow some of you guys are like high school kids - moron moron moron idiot idiot fraud bla bla bla

I get called this shit all day long on GFY by conservatives for my liberal viewpoints so it doesnt faze me one bit - bring it on.

DWB I did my first nude shoot in 1989 (Swank Magazine, Paul Gambino Publisher) so no I'm not new to this biz - and you're probably right that that child shit went underground as I haven't been to Chaing Mai since the mid 90's and it was disgustingly out in the open. I was in pattaya a couple years ago and yes the girls who were too young to work in the bars still stand there on beach road looking for johns - you're lying by calling me a liar on that ( I wasnt talking about kids, but obvious prostitutes, way underage)

DWB you love to jump up and down and scream how lame people are or losers or whatever - thats fine if you ever said something nice sometimes but it's just constant shit talk here - you seem so miserable (and have said so in posts) you really need to go sit under a tree and think for a really long time and get some calmness. You display an incredible lack of empathy in every post and it's possible that you have sociopath tendencies.

Bali pimp I have vast experience with Indo girls so your post about being the Mr. Nice Pimp might work on some people but not me.

Now VDbucks - very touching attempt to make this right by your long winded description of yourself as a do-gooder for the people of the Philippines - and I would never have made this thread if you werent so vicious in the other one. The fact is you fucked up for saying DONT BOTHER...even if you are right about the 90 percent (you arent) even if its 50 percent (its much much lower I'm sure) how can you say DONT BOTHER DONATING with sooo many people dead, suffering and homeless...I was incredibly worried about my Filipino friends (8 year online friendships become pretty close) luckily I got the news 10 minutes ago that they survived. Also your biz model of paying sex tourists to shoot POV is pretty questionable since you never see an ID (would be way too easy to photoshop one for your 2257 records) do not pass go if you ever get inspected.

I am currently communicating with my Filipino friends and will be helping all I can and I hope everyone else here who uses Filipino labor will donate to the red cross or find a better way to help - a new storm is hitting those poor bastards again

I care deeply about the people in my life (including my workers overseas) so I got pissed and was rash in making this thread but the don't bother donating comment is one of the most mean spirited things I have ever read on GFY in a long time but Im sure youre not a bad lady (or dude) and you would retract it if you could so I'm done here - go ahead and rail all your insults but I wont be reading this thread again, I'm done.

blah blah blah blah... you've already been proven to not know what the fuck you're talking about many times over in this thread so how about you just stop trying so hard because you certainly aren't making things better for yourself.

By the way, if you cared so much about your Filipino "friend" then how come you have never once visited in all the times you supposedly traveled to SE Asia?

And for the record, we have proper 2257 docs for all of our content, every single solitary episode for all 3 of our sites so once again, you are proving to not know a fucking thing.

Seriously man, get off this "holier than thou" soapbox because the reality is, you're nothing but a hypocrite and a fraud. Your Filipino "friend" is nothing more than a cheap resource for labor to you because if he truly were your friend as you claim, you'd have at least met him face to face once, I mean, assuming you aren't full of shit about traveling to SE Asia so often, which you probably are.

And yes, I will stick to my guns about "don't bother" because at the end of the day, the money will be wasted. I know this as fact, as does apparently everyone else but you. Is it a terrible reality? Yes it is. And as someone who has never stepped foot in a country you pretend to care so much about, it's a reality that is a hell of a lot harsher than you could ever hope to comprehend or I could ever put into words.

But don't let me stop you, if sending your $100-200 makes you feel as though you're doing a huge service and saving the world then by all means, go ahead and send it. And here, I'll even pat you on the back for a job well done.

You care, you care!
Yet you have never been there...
A fraud, a hypocrite, is all you really are.

You have a very hypnotic gif.

On topic: The PH Red Cross is legit. Donate to them or to the UN.

For what it's worth, I am Filipino-American. I grew up in the US but have returned to the Philippines in 2003. I have seen many things here and the opinion being mentioned by DWB and VDBucks don't really differ all that much from what the LOCALS themselves say.

Take the case of disasters. It is Standard Operating Procedure according to a friend of my wife's who works in one of the national government agencies here for local government and provincial officials to INFLATE damages so they can get more money from the national government. They did a review of the damage done by one of the storms and it turns out much of the loss of animal lives and damages were GROSSLY INFLATED. It is not uncommon for local leaders to inflate damage figures because it opens the floodgates to assistance. According to my source, this is part of the reason governors are so QUICK to ask for a calamity or other designation because it opens up the region to national govt funds.

With all this said, does this give rise to the conclusion that people SHOULD NOT DONATE AT ALL? Absolutely not. Donate but donate to LEGIT organizations like the Philippine Red Cross or United Nations Relief. Be more skeptical of NGOs and LGU-based units. My wife's other friend from UP Diliman works as a Foundation head here and she left her old job because the previous foundation she worked for left TONS OF RELIEF GOODS and FOOD to rot at warehouses because they'd rather get CASH.

It's okay to help. Just do so with your eyes open and you send it through legit means like the Red Cross. For example, the head of the church organization my wife and I are members of gather members' donations (in kind) and the president, a doctor, headed out to Bohol during the earthquake. We don't solicit donations from non-members. From my experience, these are the types of grassroots personal-level efforts that yield results.

Says the guy resorting to personal attacks, lying to try to prove a point, and accusing producers of having illegal content. :thumbsup


Just so I understand, you were shooting for big name companies, flew all the way to Thailand in the 1990's to shoot topless photos, but called it quits after three shoots because of the heart breaking stories they were telling you in their broken pigeon English? Is that about right?

So before it was kids, but now it's not kids and just a few 16 and 17 year old girls who randomly approached you, told you their age, and wanted you to pay them for sex?

How tragic. You must have been shaken to your core to see such a thing.

Or are you saying there were girls, Asian girls, who appeared to be too young to work in a bar, so you (a guy who has vast experience in Asia) are assuming that, because they are small and appear young, that they must be underage?

I've walked that area along the beach you speak of damn near every day for the past 12 years. Never been offered a kid, never had anyone walk up to me and tell me they are underage, and never had a "pimp" try to sell me a minor. In fact, never had a male try to sell me anything other than weed, coke, or an in-call massage. So either you are assuming, lying, or you went around asking for underage girls. Which is it? Because your story doesn't jive with reality.

Other than the sarcastic reply to you earlier, I've never said I'm miserable. I enjoy living here and what I do. That's why I'm here and doing what I do.

But you are right about one thing, I don't have empathy for people who choose to be fuck ups. For everyone else, the world is an unfair place. Some people are dealt bad hands. Some are not. Some people you can help, most you can't. If that realization makes you or anyone else think I'm a sociopath, so be it. I'm sure you can guess the number of fucks I give about what people on the internet think about me.


We get it, you're butt hurt. But now you're attacking the legality of his (and every else with similar sites) content? Jesus man, give it a rest already. You're grasping for straws because you don't have a real argument.

Come on now DWB, you and I both know that us guys who acquire content from SE Asia only hire producers who are experts in Photoshop... I mean, there's simply no way our businesses could survive otherwise...

Meanwhile, back in the land of reality...

Key point: The Philippine Military controls the only current way in and out of Tacloban, and are severely derailing the relief efforts.

Also, by the time it's all said and done, the Philippines will receive at least 100 million in aid from several countries, if not a ton more. But, a year later Tacloban and other areas affected by this tragedy will go back to being nothing more than huts made of wood and sheet metal. That 100 million or more will disappear into the coffers of the corrupt... just like every other fucking time...

By the way, I absolutely fucking dare adendreams to go down to the PI and try to get a child for sexual purposes. I beg you to try. That way you'll know first hand just how bad that shit storm will get for you.

I mean shit, if a foreigner caught up in an "underage" scam ends up having to kick out, at minimum, 1 million PHP then shit, how bad do you think it'll get if there's really a child involved.

Aden, since you claim to know every fucking thing, prove me wrong, go to the PI and tell me how easy it is to get a child. I beg you to try. I'd love nothing more than to see your face on the front page news down there.

Oh, also, while I'm sure the rules around this circus of a message board are no longer enforced, isn't there supposed to be a proof or ban rule?

I mean, this asshat has made a lot of accusations against my company with absolutely no proof whatsoever and there's simply no telling how badly his slander and libel has hurt our business dealings around here...

The Red Cross can pound sand up their ass, when boatloads of cash poured in to help 9/11 victims, then went out and bought themselves new computers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Red_Cross (controversies)

where there is smoke, there is fire

I'm sure you will probably gain some new affiliates from this thread :thumbsup you handled it really well and I love how you tell it like it is with no bullshit.

Regardless of all the drama...I'm sure adendreams means well and hopefully the people who really need the help somehow get the help and make it through this disaster.

We raised $8,700 in about a month via donations direct to the Philippines Red Cross. Let's hope most of it went to the right place though