That's a very good point! Credit where it's due!

If anyone can beat GSP, it's Hendricks. Hard to take a side here.

Online sportsbooks are the ones that fuck me, and OTC/electronic sportsbooks are the ones who look down their nose at the small-timers, in my experience.

I wish I had a local casino with a sportsbook that could look down their nose at my $1000 bet. I'd just put my wager in early in the day when hardly anyone was there and go home. Those of you in Vegas or other cities with full service casinos are lucky. Which online sportsbook ripped you off? I read a ton of reviews online and 5Dimes.eu and Bovada.lv seem to be the best reviewed for U.S. players.

I've had a couple of bad experiences with online sportsbooks. One closed to U.S. bettors, and took all of the money in the account. Another failed to pay out on wins, but sure as shit took the money for the losses. Chalked it up to glitches. Another one decided that certain fights were "ineligible" for payouts because there wasn't enough action in the fight (I didn't even know this was a thing).

Biggest loss I took was when Bradley took out Pacquiao (I had bets on it going to the distance, and in Bradley winning) -- the sportsbook invalidated the bets because they felt the judge's decision was B.S. ... well, no shit, but still, they should have been paid out.

I also took a hit on JDS beating Cain for the Heavyweight championship, where the sportsbook decided that "US players violates our rules" and even told my bank I was making bets. The bank closed the account, too. :disgust

I'm not a fan of the online books, it's a risk. But I'm still open to $1,000 on GSP if anyone wants that action. Just let me know in the next hour or two.

Books will also adjust lines to even out their action. They don't lose money no matter which side wins.

Holy fuck, those are five outright cases of fraud and/or stealing bettor's money. Why won't you name each of the sports books that did that? Were they some rinky dink places? The major ones that advertise for U.S. players and get the most action are usually backed by brick and mortar concerns and have reputations to uphold in the gaming community so I would be surprised to hear any of them did that.

Go Georges,but everybody falls now and then..could be this time.

I think Hendricks knocks him out before the end of the 2nd round. Guy hits too hard and can wrestle like a mofo. Pound for pound the most dangerous fighter out there.

Every fight we see people writing that GSP will loose because the opponent have 'this or that' much better than GSP.... I remember lot of people saying that Alves would beat GSP because he was punching much harder like it's seem Hendricks will do tonight....

Gonna believe it when I'll see it! :)

I am betting on GSP on this one. 3rd round TKO!

Being Canadian, I want to see St. Pierre win, but I think this will be by far his hardest challenge. Hendricks is the superior wrestler, so there's not much of a chance St. Pierre will submit him and I don't see Hendricks letting St. Pierre pick him apart with jabs -- and St. Pierre doesn't knock anyone out. Plus, Henricks will probably enter the Octagon 10 pounds heavier than St. Pierre. So overall I don't see many spots for St. Pierre to pickup points.

He's never had a TKO against anyone as good as Hendricks, and his last was almost 5 years ago, against an out of shape Penn.

If anyone wants to get into a niche betting site like mma ufc there really are not as many out there. Most sportsbooks offer odds on fights.

A list of sportsbook affiliate programs:
http://gaffg.com/affiliate-programs/sportsbook/

I think if GSP survives the 1st three rounds, he'll finish Hendricks. I give Hendricks about a 40% chance to KO GSP in those first three rounds -- I think he has a weak gas tank and will get murdered in the championship rounds if it goes further. GSP has cardio for days.

Aldo and Barao are both more dangerous P4P than Hendricks.

You may be right buff. Let's wait til after the fight and have this conversation. I think GSP runs the whole fight.

Where did OP end up placing his bet?

Dunno, but sportsbook.com has gsp -200 hendricks +160

I just took hendricks for $200

5Dimes is far and away the best online sportsbook, especially for MMA and boxing. I've been using them well over 10 years and never had a problem getting a payout. Just make sure when you sign up you ask for lifetime reduced juice instead of a signup bonus and you will save yourself a lot of money in the long run...

Signing up to Sportsbook now

Awesome. Good luck tonight! I'm on GSP all the way.

How does the lifetime reduced juice work? By the way how do you deposit? I'd rather avoid going through Visa debit card associated with my Bank of America account. Someone else mentioned that Western Union is an option.

ICQ'd you Friday around 6-7pm your time, but didn't get a reply.

Ask St. Pierre's, his lifetime is probably going to be reduced from his juice work.

I personally use Moneygram to deposit, the fees are a lot less, you can go to any Wal-Mart to deposit, and any deposit over $250 5Dimes will cover the Moneygram fees (they will deposit the fee amount in your account).

As far as the lifetime reduced juice it works like this...let's take MMA for instance. 5Dimes offers a 20 cent line on MMA, so for the Tyron Woodley/Josh Koscheck fight the line looks like this...
Sat 11/16 1301 Tyron Woodley -125
10:30PM 1302 Josh Koscheck +105

So you'd have to bet $125 to win $100 on Woodley, and a $100 bet on Koscheck would win you $105, as Koscheck is the underdog. That is a 20 cent line.

If you have the lifetime reduced juice they offer many fights on a reduced 10 cent line, so the line looks like this...
Sat 11/16 1301 Tyron Woodley -120
10:30PM 1302 Josh Koscheck +110

You would bet $120 to win $100 on Woodley, and a $100 bet on Koscheck would win you $110. That is a 10 cent line. See how that would save you a TON of money in juice if you were a long term bettor?

The reduced juice sounds a lot better if you are going to be betting consistently in the long term. The sports book covering the Moneygram fees sounds good too. Does 5Dimes.eu itself charge you anything to accept the deposit? If not, that sounds perfect as it means essentially no fees at all to make a deposit over $250. Do you get payouts through Moneygram too and do they charge you for that?

I only use Skype, sorry.

If you were posting because you had a change of heart, just post before the fight that you want the bet, same terms, and I will honor it.

5Dimes doesn't charge you anything to accept the deposit. So If you deposit $300 I believe the Moneygram fee is around $9, and 5Dimes will credit that $9 to your account (so you will have $309). You can either get your payout through Moneygram or check if it's a larger amount, and they offer 1 free payout a month.

You have to call in to get a Moneygram deposit name, and they usually have you send it to either Nicaragua or Panama. Then you call in with your control number and they usually credit it to your account within 20 minutes.

Can't wait for the fight to start!

Sounds great, I'm too late for tonight, but I'm going to set up an account on Monday assuming all of this applies to a U.S. citizen. Weird though, 5Dimes.eu doesn't list Moneygram as one of the deposit methods on their site.

My money is on GSP.

annnnd the fight has begun. no bets, no bets.

3-0 Hendricks with the take down - new champ tonight ladies!

4-0 Hendricks. Edge, looks like a good thing for you that you ignored my ICQ Friday lol

New Welterweight Champion - Johny Hendricks!

Ignored? I rarely ICQ. I gave you countless opportunities in this thread.

But you would have lost $1,000.

Robbery!

I love GSP, but I didn't think he won that fight at all.