Planting videos could simply mean they uploaded to a torrent site and went after the people whom d/led them. If I'm not mistaken, I think even Riaa or what ever the fuck their name is has done the same.

They did it to obtain IP addresses obviously. They then used the IP addresses to obtain identities which is why AT&T etc were brought in because they began refusing the requests. They were targeting viewers not uploaders. "Pay our ransom or we will let everyone know what porn you look at." essentially. The music industry tried it and received a serious backlash, you would think they would have learned from their mistake.

a win for common sense i say sucked in lightspeed!

Pandora's box has been opened. There is no going back. But not a single person who steals digital music would walk into a store and steal a CD or DVD. Nor would they illegally hack into a site to steal music or a movie. Well, not unless they were a criminal. The ease of delivery and the anonymous aspect of it all is what drives it.

It is what it is. You'll never beat it, but you can greatly reduce it.

So account holders on a locker site can see the IP's of who downloaded their uploaded file?

My understanding is they were the website which served up the files. They were acting as the file locker.. So yes they would have that information.


"Basically, there's a ton of evidence that, at the very least, whoever controlled the Prenda Law domain name, also uploaded the torrent, ran a website "releasing" the movies, controlled John Steele's confirmed email account and commented on various blogs with clear insider knowledge of Prenda Law's actions."

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"That said, here's the really ironic bit: In all of the John Steele cases of copyright trolling, in which he and his partners have been accusing people of copyright infringement and hacking computers, their "evidence" tends to be a single IP address involved in a single action, which they argue is enough information to accurately identify the person and the actions they did. Here, we not only have a single IP address, but a ton of additional information, including that identical IP address showing up in multiple places, while a variety of other evidence directly links Steele to the IP address, yet he insists it's not true."

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/201...evidence.shtml

I have no idea how they got their IP's. Anything on techdirt relating to support of the digital age (aka pirating) is completely biased and is just a blog article.

Going back to what has, and has not happened. The lawsuit simply awarded Comcast, AT&T, and the other one lost attorney fees when they were getting sued by Prenda Law. And the reason for the verdict, was very clearly stated because Prenda Law did not show up to court or answer to the courts.

So in 2 years or whatever, I suppose we will have more factual information. Until then... nothing has happened whatsoever and no reason for Damian to spin the story in a "win for the digital world" agenda.

Sadly the damage has been done, that's my point

That's another reason why sometimes people better be careful what they wish for, it's only a matter of time before some law/bill gets passed and destroys Net neutrality and with it most of our livelihoods :Oh crap

I disagree...

I think most people would steal a CD or DVD from a store if there was effectively zero chance of getting busted for doing so. That applies to theft of money, rape, murder anything really.

Perfect example, last year in the UK a bank had a faulty cash machine that was paying out double the amount entered. Within hours there where long queues of 100s of people withdrawing as much money as possible, that's theft but once people get it into their heads they can get something for free & get away with it! - good luck changing that mentality!

I do agree that not enough was done when the problem first emerged, too little too late now sadly :disgust

I believe they didn't show because they 1. got caught in their little game. 2. Got too greedy and tried to take on companies with deep litigation pockets.. If they continued on their losses might have been and may likely still be MUCH worse with countersuits.

Very likely. Couple that with most judges know how to check email, and the news only on the internet.

When i was trying to settle assets online, i was in court for pre-hearing. Judge straight up said he didnt understand a thing about the web and how it makes money.

Settlement was made without any judges shortly after, relatively speaking.

Steve has always been an awesome dude. I really can't believe that he is behind any of these blackmailing accusations

interesting stuff

Let me quote you on that :thumbsup:thumbsup

you'd think we learn that nobody learns :1orglaugh

Well he is. He posted bragging about it here. He is a despicable cunt.

offtopic, lightspeed sent me a bigass coffee mug for xmas years ago.

i love that cup! i can cook ramen noodles, chicken noodles, and even meatballs.

now the rest of this shit, well, dammmmmnnnnnn

And what part was entrapment?

Can you pls post the thread?

Okay baddog...you want to play the troll game with me...I'll do it.

You have a buddy call you on the phone. He wants to know if you need some good weed. He's got some really, really good stuff he tells you. You've bought from him before so you trust him.
He tells you to meet him at a location, one that happens to be right beside an elementary school. But you don't know that, all you know is the address of the house he told you.

Unbeknownst to you, he got arrested last week. And to get a plea deal he is helping the cops set up a sting operation.

Now you show up to buy pot from your friend. There is NO pot. The minute you hand him the money the cops arrest you. And now you are going to get a big jail time sentence because you were doing a drug deal beside a school.

There were no drugs. You didn't even initiate the phone call. You had no idea there was a school nearby.

THAT is what was once illegal for cops to do.
Now it's done every minute of every day.

And so far (at least as far as I know), the cops have been lucky and the guy getting fucked over hasn't pulled out a gun and started a shootout right beside a school.

That's the irony of it.
That law about certain crimes taking place near schools carrying a higher penalty was meant to keep that kind of thing AWAY from our children and keep them safe.

But the fucking police USE it to bring criminals TO the schools and put our children in danger just so they can get a harsher sentence.

I find that reprehensible. If you don't, then we just disagree. Not gonna discuss it anymore because I know how you love to troll on GFY when you get bored. :)

I presume you have a documented case of this I can read. So far, it does not sound like entrapment if you go by the legal definition.

Not trolling, just most people don't seem to understand what entrapment is.