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LeRoy 12-09-2013 03:40 AM

Nice shit storm we have here.

Carry on gentlemen :)

lucas131 12-09-2013 04:01 AM

till now, everytime i have seen beta, it always meant that you have something in advance, you can try something and then, when they go public, you have some advantage because you jumped on the boat early ... not this time, this is totally another story, people tried their best, and now, bye all the hard work ... very lame, very bad move, very sad ... :2 cents:

spiederman 12-09-2013 07:35 AM

http://i.imgur.com/3t63g.gif

Stephen 12-09-2013 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19901064)
It's interesting that I post a link to a site containing thousands of links to full porn rips on several of the big file lockers and all people do is shoot the messenger ? Nobody actually cares there is a site with thousands of downloads available ripping money out of the hands of producers and content owners ?

It's one thing when you're preaching to the choir, but you have to remember that there's far more folks on this board that are interested in getting free site rips than there are real-life producers and content owners...

:2 cents:

PornDiscounts-V 12-09-2013 07:53 AM

Lost SEO works sucks

Mediamix 12-09-2013 07:57 AM

I really liked easyXsites, but if you need something else that isn't in beta and really works: Mediamofo.com

If you need a plugin or a template, just send us an email at mediamofo[@]gmail.com

:thumbsup

johnnyloadproductions 12-09-2013 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19901448)
So no, we won't act on reports made on GFY with no actual documentation that it's the rights holder complaining, but rather point people to where they can create a real report and provide the proper documentation. I will double check this with legal later today, but I think they will tell me to stop responding to public allegations and wait for an official complaint.

How about you calmly get into discussion with AK...

AK isn't a bully, he's just doing a slow, patient thorough sweep to get rid of commercial piracy.

One could argue that you careless because the more users you get, the more clicks you get, the more 10% skim and redirects you get.
Piracy really attracts people and free can still mean big bucks with freeloaders if they just make impressions or clicks...

I don't think you're a bad guy Markul, just see if you can arrange something with AK through peaceful talks. Consider contacting and possibly talking this over when your new service launches: https://copycontrol.org/contact-us/

Good luck with your new service.

Markul 12-09-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyloadproductions (Post 19901807)
How about you calmly get into discussion with AK...

AK isn't a bully, he's just doing a slow, patient thorough sweep to get rid of commercial piracy.

One could argue that you careless because the more users you get, the more clicks you get, the more 10% skim and redirects you get.
Piracy really attracts people and free can still mean big bucks with freeloaders if they just make impressions or clicks...

I don't think you're a bad guy Markul, just see if you can arrange something with AK through peaceful talks. Consider contacting and possibly talking this over when your new service launches: https://copycontrol.org/contact-us/

Good luck with your new service.

Thank you very much.

Btw we don't skim 10%, but 5% (and right now 0%). Anyways.

He had my e-mail and could have started a productive dialogue as he said he would months ago - that way I might even have had some special reporting tools built for him - but he choose drama because that makes him visible. He steps on people and expect us all to jump to his tune. Not happening.

Besides, I think I've said what needs to be said about AK and his operation. He can throw all the dirt he wants, fact is that our aim is not to harbor pirated or illegal content and when it's properly reported it will be processed (as it has in the past). He also still has to prove what rights owners he represents or what rights he owns, until that happens it's just slander..

Maybe AK should start with Google, that's the source of 99.9% of all piracy anyways. Or focus on what he started out with; File lockers. I don't much care. Why am I even debating this. I'm done with AK and his people.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 19901542)
till now, everytime i have seen beta, it always meant that you have something in advance, you can try something and then, when they go public, you have some advantage because you jumped on the boat early ... not this time, this is totally another story, people tried their best, and now, bye all the hard work ... very lame, very bad move, very sad ... :2 cents:

I know, it makes me very sad as well and this is certainly not something I've chosen to do because I want to. It was never planned. The plan was very different! But it's the only way to create a viable product that can live up to our goals and I think that down the road, people will see that a working service is a whole lot better than something that breaks every time we start to see certain volumes of traffic. The alternative would've have been to just leave it as is (very broken) and never look back and just pay the hosting fees and do a bit of support here and there. Or close it entirely.

We want to do better. We can do better. This is the right move. But I know some people will not be very happy and I understand. That's why we build the export plugin allowing people to export their sites so they don't loose "as much" as if we'd just killed it all.

I should have done more and sooner, I know that, I've been caught up in a lot of things this past year (two legal battles with the ex-wife, a full firemans education in the evening and weekends, opening up new paysites and affiliaite programs and building 8 major mainstream products for customers) and while that's no excuse to do proper project management, it's at least an explanation. Still, just not fucking good enough of me. Piriod :pimp

spiederman 12-09-2013 09:11 AM

cant wait for this drama to unfold
http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums...%20excited.gif

Jel 12-09-2013 09:13 AM

bitching about a free service that closed, for whatever reason, is fucking hilarious actually.

Hey! This free service doesn't work anymore! I'm outraged!

l o f l, wtf has the world come to....

spiederman 12-09-2013 09:35 AM

fiddy upcoming dramas

thumbuilderic 12-09-2013 09:49 AM

Markul, best to you on the code rewrite.

I understand how beta services can be difficult to launch and stabilize. I'm hopeful that ThumBuilder will launch gracefully, but the realist in me knows that the day I launch (today), there will be a lot of sleepless nights!

brassmonkey 12-09-2013 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thumbuilderic (Post 19901875)
Markul, best to you on the code rewrite.

I understand how beta services can be difficult to launch and stabilize. I'm hopeful that ThumBuilder will launch gracefully, but the realist in me knows that the day I launch (today), there will be a lot of sleepless nights!

400 bad request :helpme

TheSquealer 12-09-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19901064)
It's interesting that I post a link to a site containing thousands of links to full porn rips on several of the big file lockers and all people do is shoot the messenger ? Nobody actually cares there is a site with thousands of downloads available ripping money out of the hands of producers and content owners ?

I notice http://streamcloudporn.easyxblogs.com is still up, so are they lining your pockets Markul ?

Its because you act like such a self righteous cunt that everyone thinks you're a piece of shit. Change your attitude and imagine the support you'd have.

Supz 12-09-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19901448)
I don't think you read it all or understand. We do care. But AK has never sent a single e-mail or reported any sites anywhere other than on GFY when he seems to find some totally random thread to post things in. It is pretty clear that he has a big need to be visible, in order to attract donations or just find it amusing to stir shit up - in my book he's turned out to be a troll. He had my e-mail from months ago and we were prepared to work with him - now, not so much.

So...

I still don't have any e-mails from AK.
I still don't have any official complains from AK or any rights holders (we had two in the past year that was processed in due time and by the book and they had nothing to do with AK or Copy Control Pty).
I still don't know what content rights AK owns and acts upon or what companies gave him power of attorney, but seeing how he's dodging the question again and again, I can only come to the conclusion that the reality is that he represents no-one.

I am a rights holder myself, my company owns exclusive and non-exclusive licenses for several terabytes of content. So we do not in any way want to profit from or be affiliated with pirates. For sure!

In the non-beta version of easyXsites, you can report a site and the owner (and support) will have an open ticket so they can act on it. If they don't we will.

So no, we won't act on reports made on GFY with no actual documentation that it's the rights holder complaining, but rather point people to where they can create a real report and provide the proper documentation. I will double check this with legal later today, but I think they will tell me to stop responding to public allegations and wait for an official complaint.

Yea, I dont understand.....

The fact that you wont act on reports on gfy. means you are supporting them. He posted a link of pure thievery, and because its on gfy you wont do anything about it? You are fucking lost...it has to be proper documentation? So basically you dont mind hosting thief's. Ok makes sense now....

and I am the one who doesn't understand....

Markul 12-09-2013 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19901913)
Yea, I dont understand.....

The fact that you wont act on reports on gfy. means you are supporting them. He posted a link of pure thievery, and because its on gfy you wont do anything about it? You are fucking lost...it has to be proper documentation? So basically you dont mind hosting thief's. Ok makes sense now....

and I am the one who doesn't understand....

*sigh* We won't be condoning piracy in any way, but we do require people to report things the right way for documentation purposes and we require them to provide the right documentation for legal reasons.

It's not hard. It's going to be real simple. Input URL, write the DMCA notice and btw: To comply with the DMCA, your notice must be in writing and must be signed by the copyright owner or the owner’s agent.

System creates ticket to support, to owner of site and sends you an e-mail with the ticket info and voila, documentation is in order and everyone will be doing the right thing. If user does not act, we will.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 12-09-2013 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19901931)

*sigh* We won't be condoning piracy in any way, but we do require people to report things the right way for documentation purposes and we require them to provide the right documentation for legal reasons.

It's not hard. It's going to be real simple. Input URL, write the DMCA notice and btw: To comply with the DMCA, your notice must be in writing and must be signed by the copyright owner or the owner?s agent.

System creates ticket to support, to owner of site and sends you an e-mail with the ticket info and voila, documentation is in order and everyone will be doing the right thing. If user does not act, we will.

http://doingethics.com/DEE/dee%20images/ethics1.gif

I damn sure wouldn't wait for the correct paperwork to be filled out and signed by the proper person, prior to taking action about a site such as the one AK identified for you. :2 cents:

:stoned

ADG

Creatine 12-09-2013 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19901913)
Yea, I dont understand.....

The fact that you wont act on reports on gfy. means you are supporting them. He posted a link of pure thievery, and because its on gfy you wont do anything about it? You are fucking lost...it has to be proper documentation? So basically you dont mind hosting thief's. Ok makes sense now....

and I am the one who doesn't understand....

The thing is, how do you know those pay site owners don't want their content spread? Maybe they're doing it as a marketing scheme.

:)

AdultKing 12-09-2013 11:04 AM

It seems like all but one of the sites ( http://video.easyxblogs.com ) has been taken down.
So the damage these particular blogs were doing has been neutralised. Kudos to Markul for doing the right thing.

We've been crawling the blog network for a couple of days. Later today I'll send a comprehensive list of what is left to Markul.

TumblrPRO 12-09-2013 11:57 AM

KARMA is for sure a BITCH...

Anybody, and I mean anybody that joins a free blog host like Markul's Easy X Sites, is for sure a fool and deserves what he gets.

You can't pretend to trust a free blog host that has been around for a few months, that always had the same DB MySql error and that was wrong configured from day ONE, even when they were using WordPress Multisite, that even a 10 year old could setup better than Markul...

I can't believe so many webmasters were building blogs there, in a blog host that was set for FAIL since day one. A free blog host, who's owner operate from his mom's basement and who acts like an arrogant bitch in forums.

I seriously can't believe you trust a guy who always says: "We... We.. We..." when in reality, it's only him behind that host. Otherwise, Markul, tell me who else in this forum works in your host? Tell me? Who else? Nobody else... It's only you.

I can't believe some people join that free blog host full of splogs and shitty sites, that will eventually get HIT by Big google webspam team soon or late, and all blogs you spent time on, will be useless, because you are in a network where other people build shitty sites.

And probably if he setup it up again, there will be more and more idiots trying to join his free blog host again.

BTW, I have seen Markul's EasyXSites ads in TheButcher's site. Looks like he promoted his site with banners everywhere. That kind of business is SET for fail since day one.

Just sayin...

Markul 12-09-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19902043)
KARMA is for sure a BITCH...

Hi VenusBlogger :thumbsup How ironic this is coming from you. What fake nick this for 2013.. the 6th? Why do you even stick around? It's kind of sad really. But I wish you all the best in life and hope you soon manage to move on from this obsession of yours. Try to live a positive life, seeing how you believe in karma, you must have some horrible shit coming your way - I really hope you pull through. Anyhow.

We = a team of 3 people besides myself (one stopping at the end of this month though). That's not including people that are contracted to do certain things, such as designers, server admins, legal services etc. But only one person (besides myself) has been working on easyXsites + whatever designers and other contractors that was pulled in to do different things.

We are a small organization for sure yea :) Don't know how you can even think this is a one man operation, seeing as I can't code anything lol.

Regardless, breathe dude, try and get some fresh air, some healthy food and hang out with people that make you happy. Maybe it will improve that life quality of yours.

Or you can obsess like you have the last couple of years :pimp

TumblrPRO 12-09-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiederman (Post 19901838)
cant wait for this drama to unfold
http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums...%20excited.gif

That is so fucking funny... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

brassmonkey 12-09-2013 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19901931)
*sigh* We won't be condoning piracy in any way, but we do require people to report things the right way for documentation purposes and we require them to provide the right documentation for legal reasons.

It's not hard. It's going to be real simple. Input URL, write the DMCA notice and btw: To comply with the DMCA, your notice must be in writing and must be signed by the copyright owner or the owner?s agent.

System creates ticket to support, to owner of site and sends you an e-mail with the ticket info and voila, documentation is in order and everyone will be doing the right thing. If user does not act, we will.

no shit! there are things you must do under the law! not posting links to the content just helps the down loaders! :1orglaugh id just put his ass on ignore and if he sends email great a call great a letter great. :2 cents:

TumblrPRO 12-09-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19901913)
Yea, I dont understand.....

The fact that you wont act on reports on gfy. means you are supporting them. He posted a link of pure thievery, and because its on gfy you wont do anything about it? You are fucking lost...it has to be proper documentation? So basically you dont mind hosting thief's. Ok makes sense now....

and I am the one who doesn't understand....

True DAT.

The guy is definitely full of utter shit.

Also, it doesn't surprise me Sweden and Denmark are among the countries with more Suicides in the World.

Usually a guy that tries to act like everything is "Cool" and he never "Rage", 99% of those guys usually manifest the rage in the inside. It's even worse... Much Much worse.

Karma is a bitch for sure, and it seems this guy has some very horrible shit coming his way.

Nothing else to add.

EddyTheDog 12-09-2013 03:38 PM

Quote:

.....Trust me that we will not be letting your sites get this out of control again.....
AdultKing - It's comments like this that piss people off - Who the fuck do you think you are?..

Markul - So the whole BETA test was a waste of time? - Are you going to BETA the new scripts?....

trevesty 12-09-2013 03:39 PM

Looking forward to seeing what the new stuff is all about!

Seth Manson 12-09-2013 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19902245)
True DAT.

The guy is definitely full of utter shit.

Also, it doesn't surprise me Sweden and Denmark are among the countries with more Suicides in the World.

Usually a guy that tries to act like everything is "Cool" and he never "Rage", 99% of those guys usually manifest the rage in the inside. It's even worse... Much Much worse.

Karma is a bitch for sure, and it seems this guy has some very horrible shit coming his way.

Nothing else to add.


VenusBlogger!

Markul 12-10-2013 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19902245)
True DAT.

The guy is definitely full of utter shit.

Also, it doesn't surprise me Sweden and Denmark are among the countries with more Suicides in the World.

Usually a guy that tries to act like everything is "Cool" and he never "Rage", 99% of those guys usually manifest the rage in the inside. It's even worse... Much Much worse.

Karma is a bitch for sure, and it seems this guy has some very horrible shit coming his way.

Nothing else to add.

Okay then VenusBlogger, perhaps I rage when I do my daily workout or maybe I just don't need to "rage" like you do. And whatever horrible shit that's coming my way - I am sure I can cope, but thanks for caring :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19902317)
Markul - So the whole BETA test was a waste of time? - Are you going to BETA the new scripts?....

No we are not going to beta the new system, we're doing internal testing and status meetings every night (the developer is US based so I guess night for me and our sales rep that helps test and day for him + his "assistant"). When we go live, it will be 99% bug free and we have solid deployment methods to roll out new features and bug fixes.

I don't think it was a complete waste of time, I've learnt a lot about what people want - most I knew already, but I've validated a lot of this and that's important. But it all came at a price of $xx,xxx calculating everything except my own time. That's ok, cause we (sorry VB, I) anticipated this. Well... except having to rewrite everything ><

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19901969)
It seems like all but one of the sites ( http://video.easyxblogs.com ) has been taken down.
So the damage these particular blogs were doing has been neutralised. Kudos to Markul for doing the right thing.

We've been crawling the blog network for a couple of days. Later today I'll send a comprehensive list of what is left to Markul.

Yesterday has come and gone and still no e-mail. Deja vu. There is now about 50 hours until all the old sites go offline, so you might as well not waste your time with the Google searches you call crawling.

You have ignored every single very legitimate question I have asked you, yet you persist in thinking that somehow you are eligible to make any kind of demands. How? By throwing people under the bus of the public opinion I guess.

http://video.easyxblogs.com/ that has one post on it, with a link to some file that I cannot identify. I have no idea who owns the content, for all I know it could be the dude that made that post. Or someone else. There are probably millions of porn scenes out there, how the hell am I supposed to know who owns what and what licenses people operate under? I am supposed to just take your word for it? You are doing searches like: "rapidgator + *.easyxblogs.com" I imagine. But back to that site:

What is it you expect me to do? Delete the site just because you posted a link saying it has pirated content but yet you refuse to tell me who's property is being infringed? And then what do I say to the user once he complains? Reply: "We think you linked to pirated content so we deleted your website..." Really? :helpme

No.

When we go live with the new system, it's one report per site and it has to come with a sworn statement - at least when it comes to intellectual property infringement. Illegal content is a whole other deal and a regular report is not enough of course.

You know this. Why do you persist in not doing what is required? I am not trying to make it hard on anyone to report things, but we have to cover our own ass and make sure that we have the proper documentation.

But there is a way allowing you to continue doing what you do, the way you are doing it and that allows me to actually act on it.

I spoke to my lawyer yesterday and she said that if you give us a copy of: Your drivers license/passport, A government issued ID showing your place of residence, the company registration papers and a sworn statement that you act under power of attorney for all rights holders of the content you are reporting as infringed to us. We can (in some time) build a tool where you can mass blanket report sites and until then you can just e-mail us lists.

Just know that every time someone complains about a suspended/deleted site, I'll point them your way and that I will be forced to check with a number of the rights holders that you claim to represent the first time you do a report.

---------

And I think or hope, that I don't have to spend more time debating this piracy thing. If anyone still think that I condone piracy or somehow want to profit from it, then that's on you. I've clearly stated that I do not.

3xmedia 12-10-2013 04:01 AM

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

3xmedia 12-10-2013 04:01 AM

free hosts are so 1996, suckers :winkwink:

AdultKing 12-10-2013 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19902880)
I spoke to my lawyer yesterday and she said that if you give us a copy of: Your drivers license/passport, A government issued ID showing your place of residence, the company registration papers and a sworn statement that you act under power of attorney for all rights holders of the content you are reporting as infringed to us. We can (in some time) build a tool where you can mass blanket report sites and until then you can just e-mail us lists.

Your lawyer needs to go back to law school.

We send an infringement notice, that's all we're required to send.

If you go back to my first post in this thread, you will see that I actually said that you deleting all the sites will save us from having to report them to you.

Once you get your new system up and running we'll monitor it for infringements.

Markul 12-10-2013 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19903054)
Your lawyer needs to go back to law school.

We send an infringement notice, that's all we're required to send.

If you go back to my first post in this thread, you will see that I actually said that you deleting all the sites will save us from having to report them to you.

Once you get your new system up and running we'll monitor it for infringements.

No that was for allowing your blanket infringements notices, a way to get around you having to do one for each site / piece of content. Try not to mix things up.

Since you are reading what I am writing, would you be so kind as to answer the rest of the questions myself and others have asked here? Start off by letting us know who you represent please and then proceed to tell me exactly what rights that one site I left up is infringing.

yes I know everything is down right now. The server just crashed, someone is looking at that - you must have documented and written down who has been infringed

DVTimes 12-10-2013 07:16 AM

that sucks

AdultKing 12-10-2013 07:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19903059)
Start off by letting us know who you represent please and then proceed to tell me exactly what rights that one site I left up is infringing.

You'll know once we send an infringement report for a detected infringement. We're not going to give pirates a public list of the companies/brands/IP we represent in public.

Supz 12-10-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markul (Post 19901931)
*sigh* We won't be condoning piracy in any way, but we do require people to report things the right way for documentation purposes and we require them to provide the right documentation for legal reasons.

It's not hard. It's going to be real simple. Input URL, write the DMCA notice and btw: To comply with the DMCA, your notice must be in writing and must be signed by the copyright owner or the owner?s agent.

System creates ticket to support, to owner of site and sends you an e-mail with the ticket info and voila, documentation is in order and everyone will be doing the right thing. If user does not act, we will.

By you not doing anything because he mentioned on the boards. Is the same thing condoning it. 'Contact Support' is basically saying fuck off. You really need a DMCA for someone who is giving away full videos on a free hosted blog service? You must think you are smarter then everyone on here. Because you are full of complete shit. If someone pointed out that there is a site giving away all the shit on the site he listed. I dont think anyone else he would need a DMCA to figure out its not legal. So you yourself dont have your own system to check for piracy? You just wait for others to send? Thats efficient.

So one of 2 things are going on here. You are the dumbest fuck on planet earth. Or you dont care if they are there or not and just want the traffic no matter what like the rest of the pieces of shit around here.

Supz 12-10-2013 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Creatine (Post 19901949)
The thing is, how do you know those pay site owners don't want their content spread? Maybe they're doing it as a marketing scheme.

:)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

baggg 12-10-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supz (Post 19901186)
You are hosting pirates and seem to be ok with it. Congrats. You should thank this guy instead of talking shit. His BS is called caring about the industry.

But he did not host any files,only links pointing to lockers from an alexa 9million site (that is like 5 uv/day) lol

TumblrPRO 12-10-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trevesty (Post 19902321)
Looking forward to seeing what the new stuff is all about!

Are you fucking seriously?

Haven't you learn already after this BIG FAIL of Markul ???

Some people can't really get the message, even if you kick them in the head with a hammer, FUCK, some people really don't get it.

Keep reading BHA.

Creatine 12-10-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TumblrPRO (Post 19903330)
Are you fucking seriously?

Haven't you learn already after this BIG FAIL of Markul ???

Some people can't really get the message, even if you kick them in the head with a hammer, FUCK, some people really don't get it.

Keep reading BHA.


Dude what is wrong with you. You need to chill out. Markul said it himself, the service is going to be much better then before. He has also given people the option to export blogs.

This means people can export their splogs of spam and move to venusblogger, pornblogr, pornblogspace or any other free wordpress options.

They really didn't loose much.

I really don't see a problem here, it was a free service and it went down. That's the way it works.(Unless if it's hosted by Google. Even Google has killed services before though, google.com/reader being a good example) This is life. Deal with it. Nothing in this life is eternal.

Sarah_Jayne 12-10-2013 11:23 AM

When the site I hosted on PornCity's Hardcore Highway vanished, I learned never to put anything that truly matters to me on hosting I don't control. Free hosting can help with side things but if you build your empire on sand don't complain too much when the tide comes in.


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