No shit, you finally have a clue, you should spend it before it evaporates

Ronald Reagan is not like today's republicans you half wit, that's why I don't support them!

Reagan was nothing like Barry, Reagan created jobs
http://www.forbes.com/sites/briandom...dle-to-reagan/

Wow, is that the best you have, or maybe looking thru coloring books for politicians to bash.

Fucking moron

Um, NO, he didn't. In his speech he mentioned Leon Panetta, director of the CIA. He thanked the intelligence community, said a "small team of American carried out the operation "with extraordinary courage and capability". The only time he said "I" was when he said "Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan".



Stop watching Fox News. It's bad for your mental health.

Woah... I enjoy posting back and fourth here on GFY with you but I never let it get personal. Thanks for that, big man.

Take it from the Noob who doesn't know anything based upon his low post count.

Forums are good for venting about politics, not debating them.

That is not possible ... as we all know that government doesn't create jobs :2 cents::upsidedow

And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the CIA, to make the killing or capture of bin Laden the top priority of our war against al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.

Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.

Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

You might want to pull the BullShit out of your ears

My nephew was on the ship they landed on

Oh my, how arrogant he sounds.

LOL

So you are mad that the President made a decision that congress couldn't filibuster? It's funny that you bitch and moan about him taking ownership and responsibility for the decision to kill bin Laden. Do you think he should have asked the pope first?

It's funny you highlight the I's which is odd, because it was his decision to act or not act. No one else could make that decision. Meanwhile you don't highlight the the parts where he said "we" and "team"

Once again you cherry pick to try to push some right wing fairy tale land version of what happened. Why is it you ignored the parts with "we" and "team"? Do they not fit your agenda?

Reagan didn't become president in the middle of a recession that amounted to the biggest banking collapse since the Great Depression. Reagan was however the first president since WWII to double our national debt.

Thanks Obama..

Read the posts before you comment. The highlighted *I's* were a response to clarify that Mark Prince was clearly in error.

Originally Posted by **********
Um, NO, he didn't. In his speech he mentioned Leon Panetta, director of the CIA. He thanked the intelligence community, said a "small team of American carried out the operation "with extraordinary courage and capability". The only time he said "I" was when he said "Today, at my direction, the United States launched a targeted operation against that compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan".

Prior to his response to **********, he was saying Obama was all. "He,he,he" trying to push the idea that Obama never thanked anyone but himself, which is total BS and typical right wing propaganda. MP replied to that, which he didn't use the best wording. He should of said something along the lines of Obama only said "I" when talking about his direct decisions and not just the one specific instance..

However "I" think the clear message is that obviously the amount of times the president said "I" is far more important than the fact that bin Laden was killed. Perhaps we would have been better off with.. "I really just don?t spend that much time on him, to be honest with you". Which was Bush's response to looking for bin Laden.

LOL talk about bullshit.

Mark Prince made a statement. He was wrong.(period)


Why is it you are so in love with Obama?

So, is Vendzilla making any progress with that petition of his to get Obama impeached?

He made a statement, a Reply to Vendizlla whom was also wrong. (period)


I'm not in love with Obama, I have plenty of gripes of my own with him, but I'm sick of seeing the typical right wing bullshit spewed about as if it's not biased and not filled with half truths and mis information. I don't care if someone hates Obama, Ted Cruz or anyone else but at least get the facts right and quit spewing out complete bullshit that comes spoon fed, from the talking points of Fox News pundits.

You should look at Obama's latest approval ratings

Thanx, he can't get past his foaming mouth to read and understand what I commented on

So who are THEY? That's the point I was trying to get across, sorry you failed to understand that. I'll try to talk slower to you next time, OK?

He was wrong about a lot of things in this thread, apparently 2+2=5

You're about as useless as a snooze button on a fire alarm in this thread....

Instead of saying I'm wrong, try telling me where. I know that's really all you have and it's heating up your brain and you're not use to that, but give it a try!!!

I need to comment on this again.

I said quote " Reagan was nothing like Barry"

Your response was Reagan didn't become president in the middle of a recession.

So where is my quote incorrect?

Reagan did become president in the middle of the Iran Crisis and during the cold war
A recession started right when he took office, under Carter, the inflation rate was over 12%
It was 4.4% the last year Reagan was president

You don't know about the S&L crisis?

Oh, And I like the way you said he was the first to double the debt.

I'm not the one starting new topics every other day, about how much I hate some politician. That's you.. 8)

Showing you where you are wrong? We do that in every topic but nothing ever seems to get through that head of yours. You don't care if I prove to you that the color blue is blue, because as long as you think it's red, you will never agree that it's not.

After all you are the guy that keeps claiming the a Republicans in congress have been willing to work with Obama.. It doesn't matter that they, themselves have openly stated their main goal is to stop democrats and Obama from getting anything done. They openly state this, but you still say they try to work with the left.

How can anyone prove you wrong, when you will never admit you are wrong, nor will you ever accept anything that discredits what you think? It doesn't matter what proof anyone provides to you, you just change the subject or ignore it. This topic is very proof. It was about Ted Cruz, so instead you bitch and moan about Obama.

**********, when you make uninformed, myopic and misguided attacks on someone's country, all the while ignoring the shit that is wrong with your country, you should expect people to take that personally.

You always seem to miss the key details of things..are you dyslexic or do you just read what you want to read while ignoring what actually said?

Wow, guess you can't read

I didn't come in this thread about Obamacare, someone else did that, I responded and I guess I hurt your little feeling because you have no defense for it.

Show me where I'm wrong, please, not your fucked up opinion, but facts!

I didn't say the republicans were willing to work with Barry now
I did say that they wanted things added to the Obamacare law and were refused. I showed you proof, but you refuse to listen to that, you have your opinion and you don't care about proof!!!

That the GOP had 2 different plans and Obama ignored them.

Because Obama was arrogant and didn't want any republicans on the vote, that's what he got!
Believe it or not, that pissed off a lot of people, not just me.

And I love the little gif of the horses, is that to comment on your beating a dead horse in your undieing love for Obama?

"A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."


Thus, "they" = "A small team of Americans".

LOL, talk about talking slower next time heh.

what details?

So it was who that carried out the mission? You seem to have it narrowed down to Americans

Yes "THEY" were a small group of Americans. Obama said it, and that is the truth.

And you don't think that's just a little vague? By that statement, it could have been a small group of roach coach drivers!

Or maybe Walmart greeters?

Of course, just as I said you are never wrong...

Talking to you is like herding cats.

I asked where I was wrong and you have nothing, just sit back and purr

Yes, if you thought Obama was referring to "roach coach drivers" or "Walmart Greeters", then maybe his statement was "just a little vague" for you.

I would be bet that most other Americans knew Obama was referring to some sort of elite military team.

Anyway, the point is that Obama did not take all the credit for killing Osama, even though some people keep telling that LIE.

Agree with me or not, I don't care.

I'm sure many thought drones did it

Obama mentioned a lot his role in the affair, nothing of the actual team that carried it out.

I found it to be dishonorable

Ok in this very topic.. You have been proven to be wrong, when it comes to your statements that Obama took all the credit for killing Bin Laden.. It's been shown to you that he quite clearly used the terms, we, they and team.. Yet you are still arguing that YOU are right..

As I said, you never admit that you are wrong, you just dodge the subject or move the goal posts.

Note to OBAMA: Next time you organize a plan to kill a terrorist, make sure to name the individual(s) who pull the trigger, so that the American people will not think Walmart Greeters executed the plan.

I didn't move the goal posts, I said in his speech he said he he he, never mentioning the people that really should have been credited, they were not in his speech.
Fuck, you are like talking to a rock, where did he mention the real people that risked their lives to do this, instead he mentioned several times what he did! Fuck you are stupid.

Please tell where he said seal team six in his speech, that's what I said when I first posted, are you fucking retarded?

Just give credit to the people that risked their lives, like any leader would do shit for brains.


I'm going for a ride, the weather is nice here in LA and is looking good for a nice ride this Sunday to Carpentera

If you knew anything about Navy Seals, you'd know they don't look for accolades.

So tell us commander, is that what they told you when you enlisted? :1orglaugh

OBAMA already did that when he mentioned "A small team of Americans".

But some people might have thought OBAMA was referring to Walmart greeters. So foor those people, OBAMA should be more specific and detailed, because they could not understand OBAMA was referring to military.

Here is where once again you get proven wrong..


That was the official press release from the WH. The very next day Obama directly addressed US military troops at Fort Hood where he went on to once again thank them..


Yet with out certain you will say this isn't good enough because the sky is fucking blue.. You will once again deny that you are wrong and for this reason or that you will never admit you are wrong..

On the very odd chance that you want to educate yourself here is a link that shows how full of shit Fox News is on this very subject..

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...eatedly/185796

Go ahead, tell me how wrong I am and that this site is BS...

Just to add one more you are wrong to this post..

So, no petition?

You just waste your time barging into topics crabassing about things you can't change like Paul Markham?

LOL

Just want to close on this thread to state what a fucking moron you are.

I am a submariner, PERIOD. We worked with Seals or UDT all the time. The UDT did things using submarines using the escape hatches to get to beaches without detection. I knew several Seals when I was in the service.

What they want or don't want is not the subject you ignorant fuck. Obama praised them later fucktard, open to the press, you would know that if you had an ounce of knowledge about the matter

It's about a President of the United States claiming glory for something he had little to do with. A good leader would have not taken any consideration for himself.

He gave little praise for the people that were in harms way, but much to do with his own input which had very little to do with the mission, or am I missing something and Barry strapped on a 9mm and jumped from the chopper?

You never served, because if you had you would understand, I guess I can't ask you to understand the brotherhood that happens when you serve like that when you have no knowledge of it.

Barry is a spineless asshole for claiming credit for something he had little to do with and offering no credit to the real heros that risked their life.

And you are fucking retarded for thinking you know anything about any of the elite forces in the military, of which I'm a life member, FUCK YOU


And for the record, Bush had class in his statement he issued when he learned of Osama being killed
?I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude,? the former president said in a statement. ?The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.?

Croket, You're a fucking moron

Barry had a speech where he didn't mention the people that did the mission.

PERIOD

But you want to point out later where he did mention it? Guess people got pissed and let him know his mistake so he tried to fix it?

Fuck, you are so fucking stupid!

MY OP about it said he didn't mention the Seal Team, please show me where he did, FUCK OFF you asshole

Yes, been drinking, yet still can do this shit better than Cricket and Bonko 69

Again Criket, please tell me where in his first speech he said anything about the Seal team you piece of shit!
That's what you are arguing about moron!

Whoa, good thing I have spell check, LOL

Hey Bryan, im not trying to bust on you but serious question. Are you gay?
I see the scarf jokes all the time but he doesn't say anything about gay so was wondering if he just does not like scarfs while he has the needle in his arm. Oh yeah chris butler is the name. Can I come to the Jays came too if I wear a scarf? Not in a gay way though

Oh now there's a shock. Maybe you'd be better off announcing when you haven't been drinking. :2 cents:

So Vendildo.. Yes I can pretend I'm in third grade and mis spell your name as well..

You are literally bitching and moaning like a little fucking girl, because you claim the President didn't name seal team 6 in one single speech by name. You whine and complain about this, even though there were probably hundreds of people whom were involved in setting up the raid much less gathering the intel, yet you are mad because the president didn't name them by name in one speech.

Let me get this straight, you cry like a little baby, because he doesn't say seal team 6 in one single speech that was addressed to the world, where he most certainly thanked the service members whom got the job done.

Yet because he didn't call them out by name whine on endlessly like a little girl, Meanwhile he personally met with them, including the guy whom took the shot. He also publicly thanked them when giving a speech directly to the military services the very next day.

So. Vendildo.... Once again after you are proven wrong, proven to be nothing more that a bigot and a hater.. You want to "close" the topic of discussion.. Ie run away with tail between legs because once again you are proven wrong and you know it.

Somethings never change. I'm sure we will all be waiting for your next fox news induced topic full of bullshit, which once again you will conveniently run out of, when you are proven to be once again full of shit. :1orglaugh

Oh and btw you dipshit. The reason he didn't name them by name in the first speech, is because they don't just toss around the names of specific special forces teams that do a mission. If you were so concerned about our military forces you would know that they try to keep this shit under wraps.

It wasn't til the news media figured out that it was in fact seal team 6 whom did the job, that their unit name was brought out to the public as the guys whom pulled the triggers.

Yet you being mr submarine.. Somehow you are too stupid to figure that out.

Vendzilla, your new name is Major Troll.

His hate for Obama is not much different than Paul Markham's hate for the online porn industry.

How many years of his life will the Major squander grinding on about past events he is powerless to change?

LOL, so finally you admit to being a dipshit and declaring that Barry didn't mention the Seal team in the speech like I said, fuck you are retarded!

You said he didn't thank them, I showed you that he did. You seam in capable to putting 1+1 together to understand that Obama was obviously thanking everyone involved which was way more people than just seal team 6. It's funny though that you being ex military as you love to tell us all the time, that you can't understand the concept of secrecy.

Obama didn't mention seal team 6 by name at first, just like he didn't mention the CIA nor did he mention the specOps helicopter pilots whom were from the 160 regiment. He didn't name any of the people who worked behind the scenes, for the year that they watched the compound. In that year we had guys on the ground watching the compound, risking their lives. None of these people were named for a very fucking obvious reason..Secrecy..

The only reason the seal team 6 name even came out, was because it was leaked by Pakistan and the media jumped all over it. At that point Obama finally named them by name not to give them fame, but because the damage had been done and Pakistan was holding the helicopter that crashed hostage and was demanding we release information on what the raid was about.

It was actually because of Pakistan that so much info was released. Obama hadn't planned to release that bin Laden was killed until DNA had proven it to be him, but Pakistan forced the issue by claiming they were going to let their media run wild. The Pakistan govt them selves were taking a lot of heat, for having a US military team on the ground, on their soil whom kidnapped/killed a target in one of their cities, next to a high value military school.

Pakistan wanted the US to release that it was in fact bin Laden whom was killed and not a Pakistani. They also leaked it to the media about seal team 6 being the go team, which most had figured out anyway. Pakistan was letting the media go wild and lots of pictures of that top secret helicopter were ending up on TV all around the world, with threats that they would turn info over to the Chinese.

Had it not been for the heli that crashed we would have not known for sometime later, that it was in fact seal team 6 whom did the raid. Really it was going to be either ST6 or Delta Force, so either way it was a 50/50 guess and ST6 was known to be operating in Afghanistan at the time. So they were the obvious guess.

Yet despite all this, Vendido thinks the President should have publicly outed ST6 just to say "thanks guys" in a public speech.. I must ask Vendizlla what the fuck did you do in the military, being you are so ignorant of basic policies? Did you do the laundry or wash the dishes? Seriously, even a cook would understand why the president didn't specifically name the go team.

That's what I said, am I wrong, NO

But you now say that the president didn't mention them "because", so you are agreeing I was right that he didn't mention him.

That was my OP, that he didn't mention them, but you are arguing that I'm wrong, what fucking meds are you on? He didn't mention them and you agreed with me. You said because he used the word "they". And that proved me wrong, I never said that, read the post again

And as my service, I was advanced electronics, my rate was STS with a SS on the end.
Everyone does dishes, it's called cranking. Normally done for 60 days. I earned one medal , 4 ribbons and my Dolphins which I wear on a ring.

And I can tell by your attack on my service that you have no respect for those that served. That makes you the worse kind of asshole. Just like Obama.....

I'm opting out of this thread, you are arguing with your self thinking you are winning the discussion somehow which makes no sense. You say I was proven wrong, where? I said they weren't mentioned, they weren't. They is not the same as Seal Team 6