No, I'm just pointing out how ignorant you are to think he should have named them and the fact you don't even understand basic military protocol. You are bitching and moaning that the president, didn't release top secret information to give some SpecOp guys a public hi five. Yet had he done the very thing you are bitching about, you would be whining and complaining that he put their lives at risk.

If you have an illogical hatred for a person or group like Major Troll does for Obama, then you always judge their words and behavior through a filter of bias and prejudice.

All this I said you said no I said bullshit over an event that was open to interpretation depending on who you were and what you already believed in.

True... but still. Spirited discussions are fun though. If someone says something that I don't believe I usually take the time to Google it.. I've learned some stuff.



Dynamo, I never ever complain about your country. The United States is a beautiful country and so are 99.9999% of the people in it. I haven't seen it all but I've been to NY and Boston and LA and FLA and every state down the east coast (Savannah is fucking amazing). What I complain about are the people I hear about on TV, who say stupid things, and the people who seem to follow them despite themselves.

Like you know anything about the military, cooks on a sub have a secret clearance

You should read more. I understand not mentioning the specific group, he could have come up with something better than "THEY". He sure took a lot of credit for himself. That's what pissed me off and the continually mentioned his efforts.

And you are wrong about mentioning them later, that was a Biden Fuckup that should have him thrown in jail for

Only two days after the raid, Vice President Biden gave a speech at the Ritz Carlton hotel in Washington, D.C. ?Let me briefly acknowledge tonight?s distinguished honorees: Adm. Jim Stavridis is a ? is the real deal; he could tell you more about and understands the incredible, the phenomenal, the just almost unbelievable capacity of his Navy SEALS and what they did last ? last Sunday,? Mr. Biden revealed to audience members gathered for the 50th anniversary of the Atlantic Council, an international affairs think tank.

Several Seal team members died in a helicopter crash shortly after

Still think the Obama Administration has the military's back?

i would wager that if you asked gfyers in a poll, most would interpret your comments about the usa and usaians to be an attack/complaining.

and ftr, i don't have anything against you, especially personally, i have liked busting your balls over shit, based on my view that you bust usa balls. but i'm thinking it's time for a gfy persona change. my gfy new year's resolution is to be wrong more, so this could be a start for that! prove me wrong! :1orglaugh

So now you are blaming Biden and the Obama admin for causing a helicopter crash that killed some Navy Seals? Really..

Hi Dyna,

You know what? You're right. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. My main rant is always about certain politicians, especially those in the Tea party. If anyone ever took my posts to be anything personal I sincerely apologize.

Did anyone see John Boehner finally grow a pair of balls and go off on his puppet masters at a press conference? He seems pretty tired of those conservative think tanks pullingt he strings in congress.

Yes, finally... good for him- its about time.

Don't ever apologize for coming in here and pointing about how stooopid our politicians are. Just keep in mind that there is always going to be a Moonbat or a Wingnut eager to muck up the thread.

appreciated.

and i know it takes some balls to apologize on gfy because peeps like the previous poster get confused over those sorts of things since they can't follow along, so they end up making baseless comments.

you really have no idea what you are talking about, ********** does and he was man enough to address it.

good opp for you to learn something.

I am encouraging ********** to vent about US politicans as much as he cares to with the forewarning that there will always be someone bent upon steering the focus away from their party of choice.

What I said to him has absolutely nothing to do with you, but feel free to further comment about my comments directed at him.

that's neat and all but the convo was between mark and me, not you and mark.

by all means interject your views, this is gfy and that means peeps are going to spout, nevertheless, the dialogue is between mark and me and it's based on previous interactions and my attempt to reconcile those.

Yes, and I must say it's about fucking time he does his job. One thing I will add is I was fairly impressed with Paul Ryan as well. He finally acted like a statesman instead of a hater and divider playing party politics. Hopefully he turns over a new leaf and becomes an actual statesman rather than a political bigot.

He is young enough to redefine himself and if he actually keeps his recent tone he could probably go far. Hard to tell though with politicians if they really believe what they say or just pander for the camera. Only time will tell.

you should back off, these guy will attack your online business if you dare disagree with them .... remember you're here to work... not get baited my dumbasses... :thumbsup

I agree. Finally Paul Ryan does something. It's not perfect but: It's the first bypartisan deal in 15 years or something like that, and it avoids a government shutdown that was due in early January. And it also upset the Tea Partiers. I think it was Marco Rubio who blasted the deal within something like 15 minutes of it being released, before he had even read it. Crazy.

I really don't care about anything you have said, are saying or will say to **********.

If I want to direct a comment to him in a public forum, I will.

Your precious "conversation" is still quite intact.

LOL

as i already mentioned, i am aware this is gfy and peeps feel the need to interject. it's not my problem they can't follow along.




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new world order is coming

Where did I place blame on the helicopter crash

Politicians have been leaking secrets for years and should be jailed for it

One politician during WW2 gave the cruise depth of our submarines, our enemies set their depth charges to that depth.

You didn't say anything about what Biden said?
You went off on why Obama didn't say who they were and now nothing on Biden giving that information a couple days later.

What about Obama using "Seal Team Six" in his campaign?

Again, my thing was he gave all the credit to himself, in his campaign, he actually questioned if Romney could have made that choice.

Ok sorry I cannot remember the speach after they got bin laden. Did Obama say I got him or we got him?

To Vendy's credit, yes I read someone that Biden made a speech where he gave away information which might have caused the deaths of American soldiers due to a a Helicopter being shot down. If thats true then thats a terrible tragedy to be sure, and a very stupid mistake.

But watching Obama's speech, he seemed to give credit to everyone. He gave the order once he received the intel that they knew where he was, but in my opinion he wasn't bragging. It sound more like he was taken responsibility for it.

And let's not forget that Dubya really just gave up looking for him... he even said it in a speech.



People say that Obama is bragging - I don't think so. If you look at Bush 0:43, his "who cares?" attitude says everything about him.

3..2,,,1--- go

I don't see it that way, what I see is someone taking a lot of credit for something they had little to do with

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Obama's speech was on May 12th

This report was on the same day

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...use-time-line/

Where a full report happened, but mentioned no names

Dude seriously you need to see a shrink..

And you wonder why I think you're an idiot?

You can't answer the question, so you try your hand at insults, it just makes you look retarded to those that are reading this!!!

I said Barry pushed what he had to do with the event, but didn't mention who put there lives in danger. You said I was wrong, only to admit that yes that was the fact later.
Only to say that he couldn't to protect them, unlike the news of the same day reporting who did do it and 2 days later the VP of embarrassment name actual names.

You're a fucking moron

Time for GayZilla to make a new thread crying that he's being picked on.

psychotherapy is a farce. fyi.

Most of the debate in these threads are based on 3 things
Opinions
Facts
Idiots just trying to stir shit up

I hardly ever post things from Fox, because my haters will just say it's Fox
I look up a lot of shit, even knowing most can't read it seems.
If I copy and paste from a news source known to liberal news source proving someone wrong, they say I just copy and paste. Really? Is it because you can't make up anything about it now?
Then there are the shit for brains that can't handle the debate and play the race card.

If you have a problem with facts I dug up, show me where I'm wrong

If you don't like my opinion, ok, it's a free country ( Except when NSA is listening and the IRS is targeting you.

The rest of you, loosen up, stop giving up on getting laid. And please get a life!!!



Politifacts lie of the Year, if you like your health insurance, you can keep it
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-plan-keep-it/

You have someone against Gay people? Is that suppose to be an insult?

Fuck , if that's the way you feel, GFY has no room for homophobes

as you know, there is no right or wrong in political bulloney threads, just opinions.


statistically, most people cling to the political party of their parents, so no real basis for that opinion either.

I don't have a problem if you putt from the rough, what you do with your anus is your business.

Dude you are fucking mental. Why if you weren't trying to lay blame on Biden/Obama did you even bring up the fact that a heli crashed then right after ask if Biden/Obama had their back.

You know exactly what you were trying to lead on with that bullshit. Now you try to play it off as that wasn't what you were trying to do.. Ok.. Why did you even bring it up?

You are so far over the deep end, it's useless to try to discuss anything with you.

What does Obama or Biden have to do with a helicopter crash?

It has come out that GWB had the same info as Obama for a long time and did nothing. I think the fact he did is aplaudable. One of the few things he has done that worked out.

@OP This made my day. Ted Cruz is -1 hope for humanity as long as he holds any political weight.

It's hard to tell? Seriously? I hope you're being facetious :winkwink:

Well let's just say, I'm willing to give the benefit of doubt because it's actually a 180 degree turn.. However I'm very skeptical given his past point of view. We can only hope they have finally had enough of the tea party that they are willing to work with the democrats. However it wouldn't surprise me one bit at all, if he turned around and went back to business as usual a week from now.

And still you are changing the questions so you don't have to provide answers

A lot of seal team members are pissed because of Obama campaigning on the Seal Team name and are pissed because of Biden giving names of the members. Those members and their family members seem to think that it has something to do with that helicopter shot,l wondering why so many seal team members were on one helicopter, it's not normal.

Go ahead and Google it.

That's kinda the point, he didn't do anything but say go! Then used the action as a campaign point against Romney...

Any other president would have had respect for the military. Ever hear about how Hilliary use to tell Chelsea not to talk to the military people when they rode on the helicopter?

Bush knew the names of all the service men attached to his protection and their family members

It's clear you have a problem with the Gay community if as an insult you call people gay. Might want to rethink that or leave the board, I'm for you leaving the board because as a person you have nothing to add to the community. I'm sure in person that carries as the same!

My parents wonder how my belief's got so liberal!~ LOL

And my dad doesn't even talk to my daughter right now!!! I have a problem with that!!!

So basically you are going all conspiracy theory on us, with no real evidence other than you read it on some site...

LOL,

Like you ever post any truths

Are you talking about Obama using Seal Team 6 in his campaign?

Are you talking about Hillary having disdain for the military?

Or that Bush knew the names of everyone in the military that served with him as president?

I have to ask where you see a conspiracy at? Check your meds, I think you missed one!

I'm talking about you trying to allude that Obama or Biden had anything to do with a helicopter crash that killed people. You know exactly what I'm calling you out about, I've said it in three posts now and you keep trying to change the subject or pretend it's not what you meant.

Also, while yes I might lean left in my politics I in no way throw out fake information that has no basis in fact. If I do happen to post something that wasn't true I have no problem at all admitting it, if I'm proven to be wrong. Meanwhile you just post what ever bullshit that you happen to find on random websites or bullshit from fox new opinion pieces. Never once do you ever accept you are wrong or admit you didn't bother to research it.

Simply put you are so full of hate, it's all you see. You are no different that the conspiracy retards that post here all the time. Just like them, you never research anything, nor will you ever let a objective argument that you don't agree with into your head. You just believe any sort of bullshit as long as it fits your political agenda, meanwhile anything against your agenda is always false..

Does Bush know the names of the thousands of service men and women he sent to Iraq to die for what amounts to basically "because I wanted an Iraq war like my daddy" ?????

Don't underestimate the weight of a president's choice to say "go". Everyone was telling him not to do the raid on Bin Laden's compound. It was a giant political risk that a lot of people wouldn't have had the nuts to do.

That's how he's always rolled. Not sure why you bother.

1) Lay down bait

2) Create a clusterfuck of back and forth responses with the biters

3) Pick and choose from the clusterfuck what to respond to

4) Continue to lay down bait to encourage more biting