**********, when you make uninformed, myopic and misguided attacks on someone's country, all the while ignoring the shit that is wrong with your country, you should expect people to take that personally.

You always seem to miss the key details of things..are you dyslexic or do you just read what you want to read while ignoring what actually said?

Wow, guess you can't read

I didn't come in this thread about Obamacare, someone else did that, I responded and I guess I hurt your little feeling because you have no defense for it.

Show me where I'm wrong, please, not your fucked up opinion, but facts!

I didn't say the republicans were willing to work with Barry now
I did say that they wanted things added to the Obamacare law and were refused. I showed you proof, but you refuse to listen to that, you have your opinion and you don't care about proof!!!

That the GOP had 2 different plans and Obama ignored them.

Because Obama was arrogant and didn't want any republicans on the vote, that's what he got!
Believe it or not, that pissed off a lot of people, not just me.

And I love the little gif of the horses, is that to comment on your beating a dead horse in your undieing love for Obama?

"A small team of Americans carried out the operation with extraordinary courage and capability. No Americans were harmed. They took care to avoid civilian casualties. After a firefight, they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body."


Thus, "they" = "A small team of Americans".

LOL, talk about talking slower next time heh.

what details?

So it was who that carried out the mission? You seem to have it narrowed down to Americans

Yes "THEY" were a small group of Americans. Obama said it, and that is the truth.

And you don't think that's just a little vague? By that statement, it could have been a small group of roach coach drivers!

Or maybe Walmart greeters?

Of course, just as I said you are never wrong...

Talking to you is like herding cats.

I asked where I was wrong and you have nothing, just sit back and purr

Yes, if you thought Obama was referring to "roach coach drivers" or "Walmart Greeters", then maybe his statement was "just a little vague" for you.

I would be bet that most other Americans knew Obama was referring to some sort of elite military team.

Anyway, the point is that Obama did not take all the credit for killing Osama, even though some people keep telling that LIE.

Agree with me or not, I don't care.

I'm sure many thought drones did it

Obama mentioned a lot his role in the affair, nothing of the actual team that carried it out.

I found it to be dishonorable

Ok in this very topic.. You have been proven to be wrong, when it comes to your statements that Obama took all the credit for killing Bin Laden.. It's been shown to you that he quite clearly used the terms, we, they and team.. Yet you are still arguing that YOU are right..

As I said, you never admit that you are wrong, you just dodge the subject or move the goal posts.

Note to OBAMA: Next time you organize a plan to kill a terrorist, make sure to name the individual(s) who pull the trigger, so that the American people will not think Walmart Greeters executed the plan.

I didn't move the goal posts, I said in his speech he said he he he, never mentioning the people that really should have been credited, they were not in his speech.
Fuck, you are like talking to a rock, where did he mention the real people that risked their lives to do this, instead he mentioned several times what he did! Fuck you are stupid.

Please tell where he said seal team six in his speech, that's what I said when I first posted, are you fucking retarded?

Just give credit to the people that risked their lives, like any leader would do shit for brains.


I'm going for a ride, the weather is nice here in LA and is looking good for a nice ride this Sunday to Carpentera

If you knew anything about Navy Seals, you'd know they don't look for accolades.

So tell us commander, is that what they told you when you enlisted? :1orglaugh

OBAMA already did that when he mentioned "A small team of Americans".

But some people might have thought OBAMA was referring to Walmart greeters. So foor those people, OBAMA should be more specific and detailed, because they could not understand OBAMA was referring to military.

Here is where once again you get proven wrong..


That was the official press release from the WH. The very next day Obama directly addressed US military troops at Fort Hood where he went on to once again thank them..


Yet with out certain you will say this isn't good enough because the sky is fucking blue.. You will once again deny that you are wrong and for this reason or that you will never admit you are wrong..

On the very odd chance that you want to educate yourself here is a link that shows how full of shit Fox News is on this very subject..

http://mediamatters.org/research/201...eatedly/185796

Go ahead, tell me how wrong I am and that this site is BS...

Just to add one more you are wrong to this post..

So, no petition?

You just waste your time barging into topics crabassing about things you can't change like Paul Markham?

LOL

Just want to close on this thread to state what a fucking moron you are.

I am a submariner, PERIOD. We worked with Seals or UDT all the time. The UDT did things using submarines using the escape hatches to get to beaches without detection. I knew several Seals when I was in the service.

What they want or don't want is not the subject you ignorant fuck. Obama praised them later fucktard, open to the press, you would know that if you had an ounce of knowledge about the matter

It's about a President of the United States claiming glory for something he had little to do with. A good leader would have not taken any consideration for himself.

He gave little praise for the people that were in harms way, but much to do with his own input which had very little to do with the mission, or am I missing something and Barry strapped on a 9mm and jumped from the chopper?

You never served, because if you had you would understand, I guess I can't ask you to understand the brotherhood that happens when you serve like that when you have no knowledge of it.

Barry is a spineless asshole for claiming credit for something he had little to do with and offering no credit to the real heros that risked their life.

And you are fucking retarded for thinking you know anything about any of the elite forces in the military, of which I'm a life member, FUCK YOU


And for the record, Bush had class in his statement he issued when he learned of Osama being killed
?I congratulated him and the men and women of our military and intelligence communities who devoted their lives to this mission. They have our everlasting gratitude,? the former president said in a statement. ?The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes, justice will be done.?

Croket, You're a fucking moron

Barry had a speech where he didn't mention the people that did the mission.

PERIOD

But you want to point out later where he did mention it? Guess people got pissed and let him know his mistake so he tried to fix it?

Fuck, you are so fucking stupid!

MY OP about it said he didn't mention the Seal Team, please show me where he did, FUCK OFF you asshole

Yes, been drinking, yet still can do this shit better than Cricket and Bonko 69

Again Criket, please tell me where in his first speech he said anything about the Seal team you piece of shit!
That's what you are arguing about moron!

Whoa, good thing I have spell check, LOL

Hey Bryan, im not trying to bust on you but serious question. Are you gay?
I see the scarf jokes all the time but he doesn't say anything about gay so was wondering if he just does not like scarfs while he has the needle in his arm. Oh yeah chris butler is the name. Can I come to the Jays came too if I wear a scarf? Not in a gay way though

Oh now there's a shock. Maybe you'd be better off announcing when you haven't been drinking. :2 cents:

So Vendildo.. Yes I can pretend I'm in third grade and mis spell your name as well..

You are literally bitching and moaning like a little fucking girl, because you claim the President didn't name seal team 6 in one single speech by name. You whine and complain about this, even though there were probably hundreds of people whom were involved in setting up the raid much less gathering the intel, yet you are mad because the president didn't name them by name in one speech.

Let me get this straight, you cry like a little baby, because he doesn't say seal team 6 in one single speech that was addressed to the world, where he most certainly thanked the service members whom got the job done.

Yet because he didn't call them out by name whine on endlessly like a little girl, Meanwhile he personally met with them, including the guy whom took the shot. He also publicly thanked them when giving a speech directly to the military services the very next day.

So. Vendildo.... Once again after you are proven wrong, proven to be nothing more that a bigot and a hater.. You want to "close" the topic of discussion.. Ie run away with tail between legs because once again you are proven wrong and you know it.

Somethings never change. I'm sure we will all be waiting for your next fox news induced topic full of bullshit, which once again you will conveniently run out of, when you are proven to be once again full of shit. :1orglaugh

Oh and btw you dipshit. The reason he didn't name them by name in the first speech, is because they don't just toss around the names of specific special forces teams that do a mission. If you were so concerned about our military forces you would know that they try to keep this shit under wraps.

It wasn't til the news media figured out that it was in fact seal team 6 whom did the job, that their unit name was brought out to the public as the guys whom pulled the triggers.

Yet you being mr submarine.. Somehow you are too stupid to figure that out.

Vendzilla, your new name is Major Troll.

His hate for Obama is not much different than Paul Markham's hate for the online porn industry.

How many years of his life will the Major squander grinding on about past events he is powerless to change?

LOL, so finally you admit to being a dipshit and declaring that Barry didn't mention the Seal team in the speech like I said, fuck you are retarded!

You said he didn't thank them, I showed you that he did. You seam in capable to putting 1+1 together to understand that Obama was obviously thanking everyone involved which was way more people than just seal team 6. It's funny though that you being ex military as you love to tell us all the time, that you can't understand the concept of secrecy.

Obama didn't mention seal team 6 by name at first, just like he didn't mention the CIA nor did he mention the specOps helicopter pilots whom were from the 160 regiment. He didn't name any of the people who worked behind the scenes, for the year that they watched the compound. In that year we had guys on the ground watching the compound, risking their lives. None of these people were named for a very fucking obvious reason..Secrecy..

The only reason the seal team 6 name even came out, was because it was leaked by Pakistan and the media jumped all over it. At that point Obama finally named them by name not to give them fame, but because the damage had been done and Pakistan was holding the helicopter that crashed hostage and was demanding we release information on what the raid was about.

It was actually because of Pakistan that so much info was released. Obama hadn't planned to release that bin Laden was killed until DNA had proven it to be him, but Pakistan forced the issue by claiming they were going to let their media run wild. The Pakistan govt them selves were taking a lot of heat, for having a US military team on the ground, on their soil whom kidnapped/killed a target in one of their cities, next to a high value military school.

Pakistan wanted the US to release that it was in fact bin Laden whom was killed and not a Pakistani. They also leaked it to the media about seal team 6 being the go team, which most had figured out anyway. Pakistan was letting the media go wild and lots of pictures of that top secret helicopter were ending up on TV all around the world, with threats that they would turn info over to the Chinese.

Had it not been for the heli that crashed we would have not known for sometime later, that it was in fact seal team 6 whom did the raid. Really it was going to be either ST6 or Delta Force, so either way it was a 50/50 guess and ST6 was known to be operating in Afghanistan at the time. So they were the obvious guess.

Yet despite all this, Vendido thinks the President should have publicly outed ST6 just to say "thanks guys" in a public speech.. I must ask Vendizlla what the fuck did you do in the military, being you are so ignorant of basic policies? Did you do the laundry or wash the dishes? Seriously, even a cook would understand why the president didn't specifically name the go team.

That's what I said, am I wrong, NO

But you now say that the president didn't mention them "because", so you are agreeing I was right that he didn't mention him.

That was my OP, that he didn't mention them, but you are arguing that I'm wrong, what fucking meds are you on? He didn't mention them and you agreed with me. You said because he used the word "they". And that proved me wrong, I never said that, read the post again

And as my service, I was advanced electronics, my rate was STS with a SS on the end.
Everyone does dishes, it's called cranking. Normally done for 60 days. I earned one medal , 4 ribbons and my Dolphins which I wear on a ring.

And I can tell by your attack on my service that you have no respect for those that served. That makes you the worse kind of asshole. Just like Obama.....

I'm opting out of this thread, you are arguing with your self thinking you are winning the discussion somehow which makes no sense. You say I was proven wrong, where? I said they weren't mentioned, they weren't. They is not the same as Seal Team 6

No, I'm just pointing out how ignorant you are to think he should have named them and the fact you don't even understand basic military protocol. You are bitching and moaning that the president, didn't release top secret information to give some SpecOp guys a public hi five. Yet had he done the very thing you are bitching about, you would be whining and complaining that he put their lives at risk.

If you have an illogical hatred for a person or group like Major Troll does for Obama, then you always judge their words and behavior through a filter of bias and prejudice.

All this I said you said no I said bullshit over an event that was open to interpretation depending on who you were and what you already believed in.

True... but still. Spirited discussions are fun though. If someone says something that I don't believe I usually take the time to Google it.. I've learned some stuff.



Dynamo, I never ever complain about your country. The United States is a beautiful country and so are 99.9999% of the people in it. I haven't seen it all but I've been to NY and Boston and LA and FLA and every state down the east coast (Savannah is fucking amazing). What I complain about are the people I hear about on TV, who say stupid things, and the people who seem to follow them despite themselves.

Like you know anything about the military, cooks on a sub have a secret clearance

You should read more. I understand not mentioning the specific group, he could have come up with something better than "THEY". He sure took a lot of credit for himself. That's what pissed me off and the continually mentioned his efforts.

And you are wrong about mentioning them later, that was a Biden Fuckup that should have him thrown in jail for

Only two days after the raid, Vice President Biden gave a speech at the Ritz Carlton hotel in Washington, D.C. ?Let me briefly acknowledge tonight?s distinguished honorees: Adm. Jim Stavridis is a ? is the real deal; he could tell you more about and understands the incredible, the phenomenal, the just almost unbelievable capacity of his Navy SEALS and what they did last ? last Sunday,? Mr. Biden revealed to audience members gathered for the 50th anniversary of the Atlantic Council, an international affairs think tank.

Several Seal team members died in a helicopter crash shortly after

Still think the Obama Administration has the military's back?

i would wager that if you asked gfyers in a poll, most would interpret your comments about the usa and usaians to be an attack/complaining.

and ftr, i don't have anything against you, especially personally, i have liked busting your balls over shit, based on my view that you bust usa balls. but i'm thinking it's time for a gfy persona change. my gfy new year's resolution is to be wrong more, so this could be a start for that! prove me wrong! :1orglaugh

So now you are blaming Biden and the Obama admin for causing a helicopter crash that killed some Navy Seals? Really..

Hi Dyna,

You know what? You're right. I'm sorry if I offended anyone. My main rant is always about certain politicians, especially those in the Tea party. If anyone ever took my posts to be anything personal I sincerely apologize.

Did anyone see John Boehner finally grow a pair of balls and go off on his puppet masters at a press conference? He seems pretty tired of those conservative think tanks pullingt he strings in congress.

Yes, finally... good for him- its about time.

Don't ever apologize for coming in here and pointing about how stooopid our politicians are. Just keep in mind that there is always going to be a Moonbat or a Wingnut eager to muck up the thread.