50 missing signups

Hi there,

We informed the Webmaster about the following: there was a bug in our system that our developers recognized and fixed quickly, however it resulted in a few sales (that were made by Members who previously existed in our system) being miscredited as PPS sales, to different Webmasters. We understand your concerns and we are sorry about the inconvenience, still please note that all related Webmasters receive their due earnings. We would not risk our reputation and the fruitful cooperation we have with our Webmasters by shaving.

Thank you for your understanding. We remain at all of our partners' disposal.

Best regards,

It seems you already lost your reputation for few bucks (i suppose there were only few thousands involved, if there were more, than you have a big problem with your reputation).
Anyway we're pleased to buy all your cams related traffic.

If you can't trust someone it's almost always best to move on. There is zero oversight in the affiliate business and the sponsor is basically free to perpetuate all kinds of fraud. Go with your gut.

too bad awe does not pay through paxum otherwise I would have joined....

:2 cents: if it's only a few sales, maybe it would have been better to credit both webmasters, instead of creating this situation that looks just really bad for AWE, just my 2 cents

no shit! :angrysoap

it doesn't really matter... with all the changes they made in the last two months they are actively working to kill off their affiliates anyway... they simply don't care anymore. lots of long time affiliates there have seen sales go to shit in a matter of weeks, they know what they are doing, and they have little interest in keeping their affiliates earning money anymore.

obviously they decided it was cheaper to advertise on their own

See sig , pm me for stats , fuck awe you people never learn.:2 cents:

If that was the case, I doubt AWE would have invested in its new WL 3.0 product :2 cents:

From trying to solve its Google issues to releasing new products and features, AWE is working to help affiliates, not "kill off" the folks that bring them the traffic they need. Having said that, all affiliates are not created equal, so some changes may benefit some folks more than others. It's just the nature of the game.

they need to take care of their affiliates more and actually not forget that their affiliates put some if not most of their bread on the table and not only not screw affiliates but offer them all the tools they need. otherwise there are plenty of other great program out there to choose from!

You mean they shave only some affiliates and not all?

This is how shaving works, only affiliates that are not earning so much are shaved, it is risky to lose the big ones so it's better to lose the small ones. Send them large chunks of traffic and you can cookie stuff or spam and it will not be a problem, but if you send quality traffic in low amounts you will be shaved.:2 cents:

No, I mean that some affiliates take their work seriously, while others don't :2 cents:

For example, if you toss a white label on a generic domain and expect to make money, you won't. The guys that make money are hand selecting the models that appear on their sites and are taking advantage of all of a site's customization features. They send traffic to their white label, not try to use their WL to send traffic to their other sites, etc.

It's almost 2014 and if you're (still) a one-man band, trying to run more than one site = fail

Despite this, some folks think putting up a 100 WLs will work ("make $1/day then scale it!!!")

What a lot of folks blame sponsors for is really the result of "webmasters" that are not good at their job :xmas-smil30

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This thread is not about my skills, it is about AWE who admit they shave webmasters :(

I can't speak to that, but I will say that AWE provides CUSTOMERS with a GREAT USER EXPERIENCE and offers top-quality feeds and a range of market-leading options for CUSTOMERS.

From an end-user experience, AWE sites / overall experience outperform many competitors.

If you don't like your experience with them as an AFFILIATE, then try another company.

Flirt4Free, for example, is about to release some revolutionary new offers that affiliates (and customers) will want to get in on :thumbsup

thanks god there is competition and affiliates can choose the best sponsor for their needs. go for chaturbate see my sig better signup ratios and payments through paxum !

Why can't you post a real response that sounds like a human wrote it instead of this copy and paste stock quote shit? Anyone still promoting you is a moron.

taking 400$ over the timespan of 2 months from the dude opening this thread i dont really call recognizing and fixing quickly.....

AWE is really doing a good job, screwing over good earning models because now suddenly "the lighting isnt up to jasmin standards", now you've stepped up your game by stripping webmasters from their earnings...why would you bother? the sale has been made already and the e-mail has already been opted into your mailing lists....

Bottom line with promoting any program: Cash paid/number of clicks

Send your traffic to the program that pays you the most:2 cents:

You are right.

the affiliate internet it is not what it used to be 5-10 years ago. Now there are so many other choices besides AWE than they have to wake up. Affiliates are the bread and butter of every company and AWE should wake up and realize that they need to please their affiliates and do whatever is needed to keep them happy otherwise they slowly go to the competition.

And if everyone in the area seems to be scamming you or offering a raw deal then get out and try something else. There are plenty of other things to do.

They kind of have a history that way. Avoid these cookie monsters

Heh that's some kind of "bug" then. A "super bug" maybe?
You know, assigning sales to the wrong webmasters.....yup that would BUG ME too. hehehe.

Bugs?

Bugs?

maybe its time to change the name of this industry from the adult biz to the pest biz...

between the cheesy rats, parasites, and bugs that are lurking behind every fucking transaction we are chock full of bugs, pests, parasites, rats, snakes

welcome to the pest industry eerbody

AWE, it's been 15 days and my ticket remains unanswered.

thank god i have found this thread, i ll stay away from them

maybe in cams, but in paysites, it's mostly sponsors not protecting their content from piracy and letting it be out there for free for weeks if not months or longer, the "we can't do anything" attitude, they need to understand that's part of their business now: filing your DMCAs etc...

let's all keep in mind it's easy for Xbiz to come down on affiliates, since they don't buy ad spots, but AWE probably does

where's the grain of salt smilie? :winkwink:

not looking to start a fight here, but it needs to be pointed out, especially since AWE is doing for less effort to defend themselves

look I like the AWE guys, had a good time with them, even let them know about threads like these they should look into, but doesn't change that crap like this makes people nervous

i could see it maybe 1 webmaster, when its a bunch they are trying to save money by not paying

My comments about AWE from a CONSUMER standpoint are from the due diligence I personally performed before becoming an affiliate. I tested the white label sites of every major cam provider and found that for my money, as an end user, AWE was number one.

Finding a company that satisfies its CUSTOMERS should be a marketer's first concern...

Having said that, affiliates may wish to evaluate other factors as well, and as I pointed out, Flirt4Free has some new offers that could put it over the top.

Other companies also have their advantages.

Something interesting: Many years ago I learned about "cookie stuffing" and read that many webmasters did this with AWE sites. So I tried on one site, got NO sales from it, but got a warning after e few days, to remove it. And I did, with an apologize.

Two days ago I got another waring with the same thing, that one of my TGPs had cookie stuffing for an AWE site. I was surprised, but remembering that I had tried it a long time ago, I checked the site. It came out clean, but I did and do, redirect 404 traffic to jasmin.com. I wrote them, told it was a mistake at their side. Got another mail today that my site, littlelupe.info was cookie stuffing. IT IS NO EVEN MY SITE! And from what I can see, no cookiestuffing there either!

So from what I can see, one of the two is going on:

1. The affiliate manager in question is on crack
2. Affiliates with not much NEW sales (I have mostly recurring "lifetime" sales) are being kicked out using a rather sneaky method.

Either way - Watch out!

just passing by... hello

Ah, you found it.. I just used "View Page Source". Anyway, the psid "sexpic" is not mine. But thanks for finding it, as I can now contact the person claiming it was me.

dunhill - how did you find it? Can you check teensofukraine.com (my site) and see if it is anything there? If so, then I am hacked...

Redirecting 404 traffic is cookie stuffing in my opinion.
Let's take this example, a desktop browser that is requesting favicon. Your server response:

This is the most common cookie stuffing method beside stuffing via 1px images, the missing favicon.
Well, if this is a hacker's work, he is just a script kiddie.
No need to bash AWE's aff managers, just explain them the issue, although I know cookie stuffing webmasters that are still promoting them.

Anyway, he is wasting time cookie stuffing on sites with low traffic that are not even targeted.

THank you for checking! I edited the 404-redir last night myself, sending to another site.

Did some checking on cookie stuffing and I also read that redirecting 404 is looked upon as cookie stuffing. I never thought of it like that. I have done that for a long time - either to a site with my ref. url or to another site of mine. I will have to check with AWE what they say about 404 redirecting. Most companies I know think it is OK.

Thank you for looking at my site. Got a bit paranoid. Had a rather big hacking incident some months ago, resulting in a total mess, making me almost just give up it all. Lost any, many blogs.

The site it is redirecting to, is a cam site. As I said, I changed it yesterday. :thumbsup

spot on - nice

I have nothing but good things to say about AWE...