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TheMaster 01-06-2014 01:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 19917951)
What a lot of folks blame sponsors for is really the result of "webmasters" that are not good at their job :xmas-smil30
maybe in cams, but in paysites, it's mostly sponsors not protecting their content from piracy and letting it be out there for free for weeks if not months or longer, the "we can't do anything" attitude, they need to understand that's part of their business now: filing your DMCAs etc...

TheMaster 01-06-2014 02:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 19919131)
I can't speak to that, but I will say that AWE provides CUSTOMERS with a GREAT USER EXPERIENCE and offers top-quality feeds and a range of market-leading options for CUSTOMERS.

From an end-user experience, AWE sites / overall experience outperform many competitors.

If you don't like your experience with them as an AFFILIATE, then try another company.

Flirt4Free, for example, is about to release some revolutionary new offers that affiliates (and customers) will want to get in on :thumbsup
let's all keep in mind it's easy for Xbiz to come down on affiliates, since they don't buy ad spots, but AWE probably does

where's the grain of salt smilie? :winkwink:

not looking to start a fight here, but it needs to be pointed out, especially since AWE is doing for less effort to defend themselves

look I like the AWE guys, had a good time with them, even let them know about threads like these they should look into, but doesn't change that crap like this makes people nervous

fris 01-06-2014 08:45 AM
i could see it maybe 1 webmaster, when its a bunch they are trying to save money by not paying

Stephen 01-06-2014 09:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMaster (Post 19934486)
let's all keep in mind it's easy for Xbiz to come down on affiliates, since they don't buy ad spots, but AWE probably does
My comments about AWE from a CONSUMER standpoint are from the due diligence I personally performed before becoming an affiliate. I tested the white label sites of every major cam provider and found that for my money, as an end user, AWE was number one.

Finding a company that satisfies its CUSTOMERS should be a marketer's first concern...

Having said that, affiliates may wish to evaluate other factors as well, and as I pointed out, Flirt4Free has some new offers that could put it over the top.

Other companies also have their advantages.

Horny Joe 01-13-2014 08:47 AM
Something interesting: Many years ago I learned about "cookie stuffing" and read that many webmasters did this with AWE sites. So I tried on one site, got NO sales from it, but got a warning after e few days, to remove it. And I did, with an apologize.

Two days ago I got another waring with the same thing, that one of my TGPs had cookie stuffing for an AWE site. I was surprised, but remembering that I had tried it a long time ago, I checked the site. It came out clean, but I did and do, redirect 404 traffic to jasmin.com. I wrote them, told it was a mistake at their side. Got another mail today that my site, littlelupe.info was cookie stuffing. IT IS NO EVEN MY SITE! And from what I can see, no cookiestuffing there either!

So from what I can see, one of the two is going on:

1. The affiliate manager in question is on crack
2. Affiliates with not much NEW sales (I have mostly recurring "lifetime" sales) are being kicked out using a rather sneaky method.

Either way - Watch out!

dunhill 01-13-2014 11:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Horny Joe (Post 19943359)
Something interesting: Many years ago I learned about "cookie stuffing" and read that many webmasters did this with AWE sites. So I tried on one site, got NO sales from it, but got a warning after e few days, to remove it. And I did, with an apologize.

Two days ago I got another waring with the same thing, that one of my TGPs had cookie stuffing for an AWE site. I was surprised, but remembering that I had tried it a long time ago, I checked the site. It came out clean, but I did and do, redirect 404 traffic to jasmin.com. I wrote them, told it was a mistake at their side. Got another mail today that my site, littlelupe.info was cookie stuffing. IT IS NO EVEN MY SITE! And from what I can see, no cookiestuffing there either!

So from what I can see, one of the two is going on:

1. The affiliate manager in question is on crack
2. Affiliates with not much NEW sales (I have mostly recurring "lifetime" sales) are being kicked out using a rather sneaky method.

Either way - Watch out!
Code:
littlelupe.info/000000

GET /000000 HTTP/1.1
Host: littlelupe.info
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 AlexaToolbar/alxf-2.19
Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Referer: littlelupe.info/
Cookie: popundr=1
Connection: keep-alive

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:51:36 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.4.0 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
Location: livejasmin.com/listpage.php?psid=sexpic&campaign_id=25648&pstour=t1&psprogram=REVS&pstool=15_1
Code:
littlelupe.info/bg.jpg

GET /bg.jpg HTTP/1.1
Host: littlelupe.info
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 AlexaToolbar/alxf-2.19
Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Referer: littlelupe.info/
Cookie: popundr=1
Connection: keep-alive
Cache-Control: max-age=0

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:51:36 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.4.0 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
Location:one.littlelupe.com/track/kimslist:RevShareTrials:lupeone/

nikki99 01-13-2014 12:03 PM
just passing by... hello

Horny Joe 01-13-2014 12:21 PM
Ah, you found it.. I just used "View Page Source". Anyway, the psid "sexpic" is not mine. But thanks for finding it, as I can now contact the person claiming it was me.

dunhill - how did you find it? Can you check teensofukraine.com (my site) and see if it is anything there? If so, then I am hacked...

Quote:
Originally Posted by dunhill (Post 19943524)
Code:
littlelupe.info/000000

GET /000000 HTTP/1.1
Host: littlelupe.info
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 AlexaToolbar/alxf-2.19
Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Referer: littlelupe.info/
Cookie: popundr=1
Connection: keep-alive

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:51:36 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.4.0 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
Location: livejasmin.com/listpage.php?psid=sexpic&campaign_id=25648&pstour=t1&psprogram=REVS&pstool=15_1
Code:
littlelupe.info/bg.jpg

GET /bg.jpg HTTP/1.1
Host: littlelupe.info
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 AlexaToolbar/alxf-2.19
Accept: image/png,image/*;q=0.8,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Referer: littlelupe.info/
Cookie: popundr=1
Connection: keep-alive
Cache-Control: max-age=0

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:51:36 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) PHP/4.4.0 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
Location:one.littlelupe.com/track/kimslist:RevShareTrials:lupeone/

dunhill 01-13-2014 03:34 PM
Redirecting 404 traffic is cookie stuffing in my opinion.
Let's take this example, a desktop browser that is requesting favicon. Your server response:

Code:
teensofukraine.com/favicon.ico

GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1
Host: teensofukraine.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 AlexaToolbar/alxf-2.19
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Connection: keep-alive

HTTP/1.0 302 Moved Temporarily
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:26:42 GMT
Server: Apache/2
Location: trackfwc.com/cgi-bin/fwcc.cgi/5/48020:teensofukraine
Content-Length: 313
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Cache: MISS from remotelogin
X-Cache-Lookup: MISS from remotelogin:8080
Via: 1.0 remotelogin (squid/3.1.19)
Connection: keep-alive
This is the most common cookie stuffing method beside stuffing via 1px images, the missing favicon.
Well, if this is a hacker's work, he is just a script kiddie.
No need to bash AWE's aff managers, just explain them the issue, although I know cookie stuffing webmasters that are still promoting them.

Anyway, he is wasting time cookie stuffing on sites with low traffic that are not even targeted.

Horny Joe 01-14-2014 12:38 AM
THank you for checking! I edited the 404-redir last night myself, sending to another site.

Did some checking on cookie stuffing and I also read that redirecting 404 is looked upon as cookie stuffing. I never thought of it like that. I have done that for a long time - either to a site with my ref. url or to another site of mine. I will have to check with AWE what they say about 404 redirecting. Most companies I know think it is OK.

Thank you for looking at my site. Got a bit paranoid. Had a rather big hacking incident some months ago, resulting in a total mess, making me almost just give up it all. Lost any, many blogs.

The site it is redirecting to, is a cam site. As I said, I changed it yesterday. :thumbsup


Quote:
Originally Posted by dunhill (Post 19943722)
Redirecting 404 traffic is cookie stuffing in my opinion.
Let's take this example, a desktop browser that is requesting favicon. Your server response:

Code:
teensofukraine.com/favicon.ico

GET /favicon.ico HTTP/1.1
Host: teensofukraine.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 AlexaToolbar/alxf-2.19
Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
DNT: 1
Connection: keep-alive

HTTP/1.0 302 Moved Temporarily
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 22:26:42 GMT
Server: Apache/2
Location: trackfwc.com/cgi-bin/fwcc.cgi/5/48020:teensofukraine
Content-Length: 313
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
X-Cache: MISS from remotelogin
X-Cache-Lookup: MISS from remotelogin:8080
Via: 1.0 remotelogin (squid/3.1.19)
Connection: keep-alive
This is the most common cookie stuffing method beside stuffing via 1px images, the missing favicon.
Well, if this is a hacker's work, he is just a script kiddie.
No need to bash AWE's aff managers, just explain them the issue, although I know cookie stuffing webmasters that are still promoting them.

Anyway, he is wasting time cookie stuffing on sites with low traffic that are not even targeted.

goldjuice 06-09-2015 10:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 19917951)
No, I mean that some affiliates take their work seriously, while others don't :2 cents:

For example, if you toss a white label on a generic domain and expect to make money, you won't. The guys that make money are hand selecting the models that appear on their sites and are taking advantage of all of a site's customization features. They send traffic to their white label, not try to use their WL to send traffic to their other sites, etc.

It's almost 2014 and if you're (still) a one-man band, trying to run more than one site = fail

Despite this, some folks think putting up a 100 WLs will work ("make $1/day then scale it!!!")

What a lot of folks blame sponsors for is really the result of "webmasters" that are not good at their job :xmas-smil30
spot on - nice

goldjuice 06-09-2015 10:16 AM
I have nothing but good things to say about AWE...


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