This is actually another perfect example of why "adult" is having so many problems right now. The word "adult" conveys SO many things - dating, cams, paysites, etc etc - that threads like this are riddled with people expressing contempt for this or that.

I run paysites and advertise so I am interested in anything that "models" success but I would be wary (personally) of trying this with something I'm not familiar with, like dating or cams, even tho that's (supposedly) where the money is. This makes ME the fucktard, not the product. :)

Good luck with it! :)

OP forgot to add these lines to the bottom of his post:

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But First...

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Some would say this has already happened :)

thanks for the info,
obviously the ads are there bcoz they are making money .,

would like to get the inside view/trial of your tool for 2 days.

shoot me mail with details.,
thanks

Mindgeek thumbsup and laying off people? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

like any of the people here can afford to pay a monthly forum fee :thumbsup

I would say it's just the beginning for adult and affiliate marketing paid performance marketing. For so many years adult was only covered by paysites and similar PPS/Rev share programs. Just 2 years ago sparked affiliates buying traffic from adult sites sending them to offers with landing pages etc. The "easy" dash and grab $30k/day may be gone (even though some are still doing it), but this type of traffic buying sending to affiliate programs has just started!

On another note you do not need the spy tool at all in order to get started in this or to make money, it's just a massive kick start by seeing whats going on around the world all within a few easy searches. I can't even begin to explain how much time/spying and self coded tools you'd need to find the same info.

Damn brother...if it's so incredibly profitable, why are you an employee instead of doing your own thing and making real money?

Exactly, no way these dating guys do 5k a day.




gotte be way way more....

50 Get Rich Quick Schemes

Seriously? That's your reply? :1orglaugh


What happened to:

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stmadultspy please hit me up over skype ipoli263. I am interested in your tool.

just as another point, if you speak another language other than english then you will face less competition in the other markets.

For example pornhub in spain shows ads in Spanish.

I think for this type of thing, you have to be quick on the game and always discovering and adapting.

to good to be true = just to good to be true.

exactly the same as those SEO selling scammers.

interesting thread :)

OP forgot to mention that the only people buying tube ad spots are program owners or management. Regular affiliates just can not compete with them.

And yeah, if it was so peachy, OP wouldn't be spamming this on message boards in hopes of selling a couple $79/month subscriptions.

P.S.
LOL @ Zombaio processing.

Let's talk at internext if you have some time. Your paysite is quite unique I'm sure you can do some damage out there. Particularly media targeting huge tits. Geo targeting southern states in traffic junky, etc.

Once you find that audience that's in love with your site on tubes , you will wonder how the hell you have been avoiding these millions of ppl all these years ...

another rich quick scheme that will flop. he'll nicely blame everybody an everything except his no refund dried out campaign.

ahh a 2 post endorsement from the most trusted name in adult, manwin/mindgeek. :1orglaugh

gotta love the mother fuckers that come rollin in with get rich schemes that if they do exist they're dried up or a fraction of what was remains. tired ass used car salesmen an the sheep that feed into their bullshit !!!! im lookin straight the fuck at ya nick.

OP is correct, but partly, me doing this for 2 years from autumn-winter 2011 till current date and all last year was a disaster already - all variants of ads, landing pages, offers are seen, gone, restricted already. Something tells me it was also very hot 2010-2011.

For example try to use that banners and landing he used as example today. You will be in red in no time with conversion like 1:100-1:200 or worse for simple lead. And it was 10 times better. Also I assume that banners / landing are not from affiliates. I've seen affiliates before, they are not like that. It will be more custom made, etc.

That's why he is here with his $80-$100/month tool, that's why in last year (ops, 2012 even in autumn, November to be exact) another competing adult media buys forum arise. Arise and dead already with no new info - year later. Why ? There is no money left, quite easy at last.

No way I would try to milk others for $80/month if I could generate $xxxx-$xx.xxx / day. At least not with a thread on forum. Only later LOL

Still... renewing doesn't mean that some affiliates are actually making a profit. They could have a large advertising budget and are not planning on getting a return until month 4 who knows?
So you could go in, create a campaign and still not make a return for a while with the same ad and promoting the same product.
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How do you know what program they are using; Revshare, PPS. PPL, PPC etc... ?


Not trying to be negative or anything, I am genuinely interested :thumbsup

Or it could be me using old non-working (but excellent in past) creative praying they will make wonders "this day at last" burning myself deeper "in red". LOL

In adult honestly you need to change ad + lander +offer each 3 days. At least one variable. Mark my words.

so its all about copy and paste someones knowhow? ok then ...

Pretty much every "solution" like this I have ever seen just seems like someone who used to make money long ago on a specific method that already took every dime out of it and once they were deep into diminishing returns tried to sell the now tired method to others who were not present during the decline.

Well put. Exactly my thoughts.

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post a tutorial on how to make money with 3d tube ads on adult ad networks and i will sign up.

^
download PDF's from his forums or some similar ones blogs, but they are just more stuffed with non-useful refurbished info which have 0 value today.

i see mostly ads for manwin properties on their tubes. are the guys who create and run their ads members of your forum as well?

To get that Christmas bonus I bet. :upsidedow

Hi Robbie, I’m not an employee. I’m one of the owners. I do make real money with affiliate marketing, I’ve generated millions on my own campaigns...still am. Why do I bother selling products like these? I think it’s smart to diversify my income stream. I also own an affiliate network, amongst other things.


@scottybuzz you’re 100% correct, there are MAJOR advantages to advertising in countries with less direct competition.

I’ve advertised affiliate offers in countries like Maldives, Ghana, Kenya etc with almost no competition, even the dreaded China and their “shitty traffic”. If you speak the native language you’ve got a leg up, but hiring translators on www.onehourtranslation.com will do a good job as well. They are cheap and superfast. DO NOT go with Google Translate.





@fengwu yep it’s sad to say that most of the time that term is spot on. What I advise you to do is research the paid affiliate forums like STM. You will see affiliates making huge money duplicating other affiliates campaign using the spy tool. My other business partner known as “Bbrock” online is one of Cupid.com Inc (you can check them out on the stock exchange) biggest affiliates. This was his private tool before we decided to take it public.




@Marcus I am willing to bet you any $ amount that you are wrong. Contact trafficjunky, exoclick or any other large adult ad network they will happily tell you that they have a huge chunk of affiliates buying up tube ad spots.

I’m even currently buying some of the top placements on major tube sites.

In regards to the reason why we are selling this product please refer to my response to Robbie.



Hi seolinker, you are correct, the campaigns you see were very hot between 2010-2011, they were also very hot in 2009, 2012 and 2013. The campaigns you see have been working for years and still work today. I run an affiliate network. One of our specialties is adult traffic. I can safely say there is still a lot of money in it. Don’t take my word for it though. Ask affiliate networks like adsimilis.com, adividi.com, clickdealer.com. Their bread and butter is adult.

Why did the adult media buy forum die? It’s nothing to do with the health of the affiliate adult industry. Maybe it has to do that they had no new content, because they were running the same campaigns for years. Using the same strategies. Forums will always die if they don’t have fresh content, even if their existing content is valuable.




@stephane76 Yep i know exactly what you mean. Affiliate marketing doesn’t work on 4 months returns, it works on same day returns. This is because affiliates are NOT building a brand, they’re looking for instant return on what they spend each day. The goal is hitting a high ROI. SO anyone you see running a campaign for more than a few days is usually in the green.

Almost all affiliates running these dating offers are on a CPA, they get paid $4-$10 per free signup (depends on the country). They run through affiliate networks. There’s about 10 reputable affiliate networks in the CPA space, they have the top dating offers, will pay weekly, and you get a dedicated rep who can tell you the best offers in X country, help you increase payouts, and quality. Some of the good networks i just mentioned above.

You can easily check which banner ad is going to which affiliate network. Just download a chrome extension like HTTP Headers, and click on the on the offer link. It will redirect through the affiliate network’s link, then to the advertisers link. Once you know what affiliate network has the offer, you can ask them for the low down, what is working etc.





@seolinker yep you definitely need to keep your ads fresh. Lander you don’t, neither with offer. It depends what niche you are promoting in. I’ve run the same offer for over a year. I’ve run the same lander still for close to a year too.


@seolinker haha i think you got a little confused there dude. If you like I can give access to our content, just send me a PM. I’d be interested if you still think it’s non-useful :P.

I am with adsimilis and neverblue when I need adult CPA, it's kinda died. Benaughty, Flirt brands for sure. They went into CPA, now separate and only CPS, says a lot. Others like Edarling, FirstDate and tons of others not allow adult now or just non-converting totally.

I had some gut that maybe adsimilis guys behind my buys competing with me, but still it's nowhere near like it was. And I tried that lander, actually copied it as well as banner and tried to run myself same offer on same spot, was in red for few days

Sounds great, skype or icq ??

Adult has not died. It has evolved. Yes brands like Benaughty and flirt are not where they once where, because better brands have taken their place. Before mobile was nonexistent in the adult affiliate space, now it's going crazy.

Just because you didn't make it work doesn't mean no one else can. Like you mentioned you other people were running the same stuff as you. There are factors that get over looked, like bidding strategies, redirection speeds, hosting capabilities etc etc. If one of those are off then you are at a disadvantage compared to your competition.

Who said I didn't ? I have seen $1k/day profits

Hosting was dedi, bid top with 3/day cap, etc was fine, problem was that way too low people went from ad to LP which means it's not work anymore, tried similar pages to change that - all same

Those "Rules" and few others variants of LP's died year or more ago.

Better brands ? Like which ? Maybe only Erovie on international level and with worse conversion rates. Benaughty paid $3-4 for SOI on Italy, Spain and upto $8 for SOI on France.

Even if all good it's still not make it clear why there is a need in that tool, private forum, cpa network etc

There are competing tool, like adultadspy which have close to 0 spots for "spying", they are drying up.

Haha look I'm not going to go back and forward with you. It seems like if these landers and offers don't work for you that you cannot believe they don't work for anyone else.

Come to affiliate summit this week in Vegas. We are hosting a party for over 200 affiliates. You can talk face to face with affiliates generating seven figures a year off affiliate offers on porn sites.

The 3 step landers are owning at the moment. I'd advise you to check some porn sites for yourself. Tryst, ChineseLove, Cheating House Wife, GCruise, Lustagenten are all doing well. Payouts are irrelevant. These offers converting at profitable rates for a huge chunk of affiliates on F5.

I don't understand this comment?

Hey OP could you add me to Skype please details below

Lust agenten never worked for me in Adsimilis and have shitty payout in the same time, rest are English speaking instead of you proposing EU ones.

3 step means like age, gender or do you have STD's etc ? They are all used to death as well now.

This comment = "why not generate 7 figures a year like that affiliates if all works instead few signups to spy tool there"

That landers and offers worked for me and for everyone else as well. Now they don't. And I see less and less affiliates, rather direct advertisers on that media buys and adult networks itself copying campaigns.

Ok, will not post here, people will decide.

It's just like paysites got less and less profitable. Adult dating bubble burst year ago.

@seolinker once again...because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't/can't work for others. I once tried to try my luck with running an SEO site. It didn't horribly it was a failure. Does that mean that SEO doesn't work?

3 step landers, have been used to death. Why? Because they work. They make money.

Why do I not focus on generating 7 figures? I do. This is one of my forms of diversification.

As long as there are guys wanting looking for porn and sex online. Then the adult affiliate industry will be in good health.

Look lets just agree to disagree.