damn a double post,,

You just don't get exposed to most film from other countries. Americans don't like movies where people have foreign accents! How many Australian movies have you seen? We make dozens every year but most of them aren't boring, shallow special effects driven piles of shit so that's why you don't see them.

We americans call that chick movies

So what's the last non-American movie you saw?

Oh shut the fuck up! If your movie producers could afford to make special FX driven movies, they would. Bottom line is, Hollywood produces the highest budget, highest-grossing films world wide. Pple from other countries LOVE our movies. We do big business overseas in the movie industry.

By the way, Romper Stomper was a good Australian flick. And I didn't mind the accents. But where is Russell Crowe now? OH YEAH... making movies in HOLLYWOOD. I forgot.

:321GFY

You're probably right in that most people in the world are sheep and follow the pack. They may not have any cogent argument for why they dislike America.

However, most of the people that I've had interaction with overseas that dislike in America, dislike America because they dislike our foreign policy and feel that we are arrogant, believing that what's good for America is good for the rest of the world.

I'm not saying this is a majority, but it represents a majority of people I've interacted with overseas who do criticize the U.S.

The fact is I don't think it's far-fetched to think that America does act in its own self-interest. While I disagree, I think America is not acting purely in self-interest I can understand why people think so. Right now, we have very different viewpoints than many of our allies, consequently we haven't particpated in many globabl treaties as of late (or withdrawn from treaties). Yet, we ask everyone to jump on board and support us when we need them.

On nearly all these issues, I agree with the decisions that we make, but I fully understand the disconnect between America and much of Europe.

most notable,, Croching Tiger Hidden Dragon :)

plus other kung fu flics from the action channel

as a matter of fact only non-american films i watch is kung fu movies

You shut the fuck up shithead!

People love your movies because people love shit. That's why they love McDonalds. That's why they love Eminem. You culture has done nothing but bastardise art. Your studio films are shallow. Your studio films are stupid and moronic. Essentially it is shit cinema. You can't see it because 90% of your culture is junk. You do have good filmmakers such as Martin Scorsese and David Lynch but they are a tiny minority.

Russell Crowe is in Hollywood because he loves the attention and the money like most actors. Your films aren't better, they just cost more.

So GFY! :321GFY

Joe and Jeremy have one thing in common... They like to hear themselfs talk. They say alot of nothing, but its REALLY important to them. I bet they both long to see there names in neon lights.

Come on guys... youre both smart... Can you pick a topic that hasnt been hashed over 10,000 times in the last week?

If I hear anymore policitical propaganda out of you two I think I will puke.

yeah i see what you mean.

personally i don't hate any country. i try to stray away from basing my opinions on people from other countries just because my country doesn't like them, or they don't like us. when it comes down to it, none of that means anything. everyone is different, and the root of the problem is lack of understanding.

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play on...

B.S. I used to work in the film industry. I went to film school at UCLA. Americans don't dislike foreign accents. FAmericans are suckers for foreign accents. Go ask any of your Aussie brethren who've fucked their way across America. For fuck sake, I can't tell you how many chicks I know who melt in a second for aussie, english, or even french accent.

The reason foreign films aren't huge hear is the same reason that American indie films aren't huge: it's because of the studio system. Occasionally (or more than occasionally) an indie or foreign film does make it big, however, there is a universality of American films that make them popular all over the world.

Moreover, all these American films that people think are so American. I've got news for you. I worked in the film biz, and I can't tell you how much money for these films comes from overseas. French, English, Australian firms pour shitloads of money into "American" films to finance them. More movies than you think are majority financed by a foreign company, even though you'd think they're 100% American.

according to american standards you might be considered gay

i don't think you dislike America

your just Anti-Globalization,, affraid of the west taking over your culture

You blow smoke so much you stick out like a sore thumb on this forum.


"G'day mate.... we aren't allowed to have guns and our crime skyrocketed, we cane peoeple, yet we know everything about how the world should be run. "


Pull the fosters can out of your ass.
Um... the majority of the income from the films goes into the american economy as well as the fact that all the people paid to work on the films mostly live and spend thier money in the USA.

How do you say beer in Australian?

i will agree with joe on the fact that theres a bit too many shallow films in the US... i can't fucking stand these teen movies that promote materialistic shallow lifestyles. but the film industry KNOWS movies like that will bank hard because the large majority of youth in america are fucking stupid as shit. all so materialistic an shallow. ahhhh.

Yeah well I studied film here in Australia. It's true that Americans like foreign accents but not in their movies. Why do you think they dubbed Mad Max with American accents? It's all about a nations comfort level. Americans are used to hearing American accents and they become uncomfortable when people in movies start speaking with an accent they aren't familiar with. They simply aren't exposed to art and culture from other countries because they simply aren't confortable with it. I'm not talking about everyone, just the vast majority.

Why do you think Americans have such a bad reputation as tourists? Because when something falls outside their comfort level they complain because that's what they are used to doing. When the ketchup doesn't taste the same as it does back home or when they don't get the same level of service they are used to it freaks them out. Middle America are scary motherfuckers and I spend a lot of time travelling so I see many of them. Nobody on Earth travels with more baggage then Americans because they bring the whole fucking USA with them.

American blockbusters are popular for the same reason McDonalds is. They are easy to digest and non threatening. But are they good? Rarely. The best American films are Indie films.

um, did I ever say a majority of the income doesn't go into the American economy? No. But, having worked in Hollywood, it was a truly international enterprise. Studios, banks, actors, actreses, directors, producers from all over the world flock to Hollywood. It is a very international business.

Isnt capitolism a beautiful thing? You can make shit, make tons of money and be loved by the masses. Capitolism at its best. hahaha!

It?s called entertainment Joe... If we wanted a Rembrandt we would go to a museum.. not a movie theater.

Get over your high-browed self. lol

What the fuck are you talking about, moron?

Our crime rate has not skyrocketed.

You are an ignorant fucktard. Go back to your job at McDonalds.

Oh yeah... I'll have fries with that bitch!

Love HK cinema, watching more Japanese films lately. See "Ichii The Killer" and "Battle Royale". Awesome movies! All my thick American friends love them! I havent' seen an Ausrtralian film since "Chopper." I understand he is quite the hero in your culturally superior nation. Good for you!

Sorry, but film IS art. Just as photography is. Just as sculpture is. Just as jewellery making is. Just as painting is. Just as music is. etc etc

I studied film for three years and earned my degree. Just because you're ignorant it doen't mean we all are.

GOT ANGER ?

He's more of a cultural icon than a hero. Kind of like Al Capone I guess.

You've obviously never stood behind a Japanese tourist in the Las Vegas airport.

Okay I'll pay that. Americans and Japs are on a par.

Just because Joe is an Aussie and you don't like him, thats no reason to bash Australia.

One person does not make a nation.

I've got two words for you:

Spinal Tap



hehehe

:rasta :smokin

now in all seriousness, have you heard of any of the following films which were huge success in the U.S. and most of the casts do not have American accents:

The English Patient

Four Weddings and a Funeral

Snatch

Amelie

Like Water for Chocolate

Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down

El Mariachi

Boys in the Hood


If you want, I can list every foreign film, or film with a non-American accent that was hit.

Quite frankly you're wrong. And, sorry, I never saw Mad Max dubbed into American. It was available in both. Have you been to France, Italy, Spain???? Foreieng movies are available dubbed or in the version originale. More often than not, foreign films in the U.S. are subtitled not dubbed.

Hey Joe.. I spent 7 years as the Principle Trumpet for the Washington Philharmonic while you were still picking the corn out of your shit. I studied music ten years (four of which were at the Eastman School of Music) before I was awarded the job with the Symphony. I taught trumpet at Eastern Michigan University from 1991 until this last fall as well as teaching hundreds of private students... some of which now have professional careers of there own.

I have more recordings of performances with the Washington Philharmonic then you are in years. Please spare me the speech on how "cultured" you think you are. Your trivial babble bores me to death.

I kow what art IS my friend.

Boys in the hood didn't have american accents?

here, here....Australia rocks. Joe blows aborigenes cock!



Just fuckin' w/ ya Joe.....you know it's all in good fun, don't you?

that was a tasteless, very non-PC joke....

Boyz 'n the Hood was an American film.

I guarantee you that none of those other films grossed over $50 million US. That is not a hit. Unless, of course, you are talking about it being a comparative "hit" i.e. a hit for a foreign film. Most Americans feel comfortable watching American films. That's the bottom line.

If you studied film then that makes you a film buff. You are unlike most American moviegoers. You obviously have an interest in film that goes beyong plonking down your $10 and simply expecting 2 hours of bland entertainment.

I understnd he is the best selling author of several books.

I'm impressed.......seriously........can I download any of your music?

Of course man. You studied film, so did I. I'm sure if we ever met we'd have a great chat over a few cold ones.

Aaaah...OK

Actually, I think Ebonics is more of a language than an accent.

So what is your point?

Are you saying film isn't art but music is?

I didn't make a speech on how "cultured" I was. I just said I studied film for three years. You obviously know more about classical music than me and I know more about film than you.

So what?

see previous thread...........that was slipped in as a joke.....it wasn't an American accent....it was ebonics.

i've been involved in one or two debates that have gone way beyond fun. hurt feelings and honest regret is all that developed out of them.

I had to take a step back and contemplate whether I was just buying into this crap and following everyone else...I was and I hate myself for it.

The world is turning against America because of the decisions of 9 or 10 representatives of the administration.

If the world ends tommorrow, I will know that those 9 or 10 people do not represent every other American. And even if they do, they are 100% entitled to their opinions and positions.

Humanity trancends the petty squabbling of one or two wackos on the global political stage (c'mon...both Bush and Saddam are fucked up...I think thats the one thing EVERYONE can agree on)

I can't influence peace in the Middle East, but i can influence the few people who might listen to what I have to say on GFY. Its not worth it to hurt business relationships or even hurt the pimpilicious world we all live in and share in here.

I almost thought about quitting posting here because it had actually become stressful...a battle so-to-speak.

No more.

I want everyone here to be RICH RICH RICH and everything else is secondary.