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just a punk 01-19-2014 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950117)
Interesting article...

I just didn't read it. I gave you the exact link to the Russian civilian code (not a stupid article but a document). Did you read it? Why don't you answer to my question then?

TheSquealer 01-19-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950117)
Interesting article...

http://digitaljournal.com/article/357671

There are dozens of videos like that.....

This behavior is being encouraged by government policy - I know that its far from perfect in the US and here in the UK as well - We are discussing Russia because you're in the spotlight due to the Olympics...

We have had this argument before - I will not ignore abuse happening in other countries because of a line on a map.....

obviously you dont speak Russian. They beat up a pedophile that was trying to pick up and fuck children.

But then again... why should actual facts matter when its the agenda thats important.

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19950130)
obviously you dont speak Russian. They beat up a pedophile that was trying to pick up and fuck children.....

That's the whole point of the thread!!!

He was not a pedophile, he was 'just' gay.....

Read the OP again and think about it...

TheSquealer 01-19-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950137)
That's the whole point of the thread!!!

He was not a pedophile, he was 'just' gay.....

Read the OP again and think about it...

I am fluent in Russian... I know whats being said in the video. I can read the conversation at the start. He thought he was going to meet a 15 yr old boy for sex.

So who's case are you actually helping? You are defending an adult who wanted to go meet a child for sex.

TheSquealer 01-19-2014 01:35 PM

and by the way... there is a video. You can watch the whole thing. 3-4 guys grabbing this other guy, holding him down and making him explain something on video (in front of witnesses and bystanders). What exactly do you presume is being said or is actually happening?? They were just walking along and all mutually agreed..."This is a random guy who appears to be gay, lets choke him and making him talk into the camera about absolutely nothing"...

JockoHomo 01-19-2014 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950137)
That's the whole point of the thread!!!

He was not a pedophile, he was 'just' gay.....

Read the OP again and think about it...

Don't bother trying to use reason and logic with most of the people on this board. :1orglaugh

I just come here to have fun and release tension as I have found that is all this place is good for really.

NOW - YOU ALL ENJOY THOSE GAMES! :thumbsup

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Rochard 01-19-2014 01:44 PM

Putin doesn't like gays, which means he doesn't like lesbians. And anyone who does't like lesbians is.... Gay.

TheSquealer 01-19-2014 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JockoHomo (Post 19950159)
Don't bother trying to use reason and logic with most of the people on this board. :1orglaugh

I just come here to have fun and release tension as I have found that is all this place is good for really.

NOW - ON WITH THE SHOW! :thumbsup

The intro to the video in Russian says "Occupy Pedophilia".. what do you think the video was about? What were they talking about on the video? What do you think they were making him explain on the video? Why do you think bystanders walked up and tried to intervene and then backed down as they explained what was going on?

What is the "reason" or "logic" here? Its a blatant lie about what was actually happening to support a completely unrelated cause.

mineistaken 01-19-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950083)
They are encouraging an intolerant attitude - Can you not see that?..

They are merely forbidding to spread gay propaganda to underage kids. How is that bad?
They are not forbidding to be gay.

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19950160)
Putin doesn't like gays, which means he doesn't like lesbians. And anyone who does't like lesbians is.... Gay.

LOL - Can we leave at that - I am going to have a temper tantrum otherwise and nobody wants to see that...

Thank you Rochard.....

baggg 01-19-2014 02:19 PM

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TheSquealer 01-19-2014 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950193)
LOL - Can we leave at that - I am going to have a temper tantrum otherwise and nobody wants to see that...

Thank you Rochard.....

Why leave it at that?

You posted a video you absolutely did not understand, thinking it was making your point which was in fact a video of people going to meet a guy who was trying to meet a 15yr old boy for sex. That was the video you used to demonstrate "intolerance" towards homosexuality in Russia.. when in fact it was a video to demonstrate intolerance towards the sexual abuse of minors.

You should apologize.

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 19950209)
Why leave it at that?

You posted a video you absolutely did not understand, thinking it was making your point which was in fact a video of people going to meet a guy who was trying to meet a 15yr old boy for sex. That was the video you used to demonstrate "intolerance" towards homosexuality in Russia.. when in fact it was a video to demonstrate intolerance towards the sexual abuse of minors.

You should apologize.

I posted an article that states -

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WARNING: ABOVE VIDEO SHOWS DISTURBING FOOTAGE OF BRUTALITY MOTIVATED BY HOMOPHOBIA.
Disturbing evidence is emerging online of Russian vigilante groups attacking their fellow citizens simply because they are, or are perceived to be, homosexual.
The YouTube video shown above was reproduced by Americablog.com to, as they put it, expose the anti-gay thuggery taking place in Putin's Russia today, ?to fight against anti-gay bias by exposing it.?

I am not questioning what you say, I don't speak Russian - I am curious where the victim says he is there to meet a 15 year old boy...

Mutt 01-19-2014 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 19950072)
i did not know you can become homosexual by choice.

Human beings are sexual period. Homosexuality has been around since man evolved from ape. For the vast majority of males their first choice is a vagina to stick their dicks in, that's in our genetic code, to reproduce. Take away the vagina option for men and many will 'choose' to be homosexual.

It's my theory that all it would take in modern society for homosexuality to become very common amongst men is for it to become trendy, if you had a bunch of cultural icons like superstar rock stars, actors and pro athletes coming out and saying that they go both ways and the media putting a hip spin on it you'd soon see male homosexuality become trendy the same way lesbianism is today. This is already going on today, there are lots of young chicks who are ok with their boyfriends doing other guys and think it's 'cool'. No idea how big a group this is but all it would take to make it large is the right cultural ingredients falling in place.

As for the gays who only have sexual interest in men, who are effeminate - that's a genetic and psychological disorder that for now is poorly understood by science.

oppoten 01-19-2014 03:14 PM

I think Eddy's point of reference is Section 28, a similar law we had in the UK which was repealed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 19950236)
I think Eddy's point of reference is Section 28, a similar law we had in the UK which was repealed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

It is very similar to Section 28 - I went on a couple of protests against that in London...

Marching down Oxford Street shouting 'We're here, we're queer and we're not going shopping'.....

We hadn't quite got the chanting perfected back in the '80s:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh...

By the end of the protest 10 of us where left - The rest where in John Lewis looking at the sale items - To this day its the reason gay parades are never held in shopping areas...

mineistaken 01-19-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950218)
I posted an article that states -



I am not questioning what you say, I don't speak Russian - I am curious where the victim says he is there to meet a 15 year old boy...

And that just proves that gay propaganda media twist things to suit their agenda.

Jel 01-19-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950242)

By the end of the protest 10 of us where left - The rest where in John Lewis looking at the sale items - To this day its the reason gay parades are never held in shopping areas...

lol that's awesome :thumbsup

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19950247)
And that just proves that gay propaganda media twist things to suit their agenda.

So he did say he was there to meet a 15 year old?..

mineistaken 01-19-2014 03:57 PM

By the way how is that video even relevant?
There are those who hates gays everywhere, including United Kingdom.

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19950254)
By the way how is that video even relevant?
There are those who hates gays everywhere, including United Kingdom.

I think I have covered that - The UK is far from perfect...

So he did say he was there to meet a 15 year old in that video?....

If he did I will comment to the writer of that article - He is doing us no favors at all if that is true...

mineistaken 01-19-2014 04:12 PM

Lets waut for the squeler to answer that.
But my point - how is that relevant anyway?
It merely proves that there are people who don't like gays and are aggressive towards them in Russia.
How is that relevant to Putin's policy about forbidding to spread gay propaganda to underage people?

DamianJ 01-19-2014 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19950078)
They are against homo propaganda/advertisement, not against gay relations. How many times it should be reminded to you?

So why do the police laugh when a gay person goes to them saying they've been beaten up?

DamianJ 01-19-2014 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 19950109)
EddyTheDog, are you going to visit Russia soon and do you have some sexual appetence to our children? I mean if not, you should not be worried about this law, because here you can absolutely free visit gay clubs, advertise homosexual contacts to 18+ guys and even have sex with them (course if they agree). Why are you so disturbed with a civilian law (even-non criminal one) which doesn't allow you to promote homosexual acts to children in Russia. Please explain.

So the people in the Vice report saying they were beaten up and the gay clubs they frequent were raided by gay bashing cunts were lying?

Right.

iwantchixx 01-19-2014 04:14 PM

its about keeping it to themselves. Here in North America, gay/lesbian/bi/trans/etc love to SHOVE it in everyone's faces and crave attention to their orientation in public events. You don't see straight people donning thongs, tassels, chains, leathers etc out in the streets with flags do you? That's all this is about, not promoting it... and I think Russia (as old as their laws may be) are valid. We had these laws here too, and it served well, we never had to have this blasted in our faces all over but many whiners changed that and make it a "good thing" to hold gay parades... it's disgusting. Straight or not.. nobody needs to see a man in a thong walking down main street waving a flag screamig "im gay/straight/tri/trans!!!"

if a straight couple were making out and barely dressed in public, they'd get the same flak as a gay couple.. least it happens less with straight couples and when caught, they feel bad or stop doing it.. gays don't.. they fight the current and want attention while claiming "its because im gay!".. No.. its not.. its because you are gross and have no sense of common decency..

iwantchixx 01-19-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19950263)
So why do the police laugh when a gay person goes to them saying they've been beaten up?

Because half the time, they deserve it for flaunting, prancing, acting super-feminine and annoying, doing stuff for attention or undressing people with their eyes when it clearly makes others uncomfortable. I had a lot of gay friends.. I have nothing to say bad about them but the ones who whined about being beat up.. usually did something to deserve it and after pointing it out, admitted as such.

DamianJ 01-19-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19950262)
How is that relevant to Putin's policy about forbidding to spread gay propaganda to underage people?

Ah, so it's only "propaganda" that is illegal? So kids are taught in school that some people are gay and some are straight and that's the way it is and that is cool?

No, they aren't are they?

It is illegal to suggest to a child that homosexuality is normal and acceptable.

And then there are gangs of cunts roaming the streets kicking the shit out of people they think are gay and the police laugh at them when this is reported and there are cunts in this thread defending that?

Fuck me. You are cunts. Fucking cunts. And I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. You should be ashamed.

iwantchixx 01-19-2014 04:19 PM

This is why I like older gay people more often than younger. They are more reserved, respectable and have privacy, themselves.

mineistaken 01-19-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19950263)
So why do the police laugh when a gay person goes to them saying they've been beaten up?

I don't know. Maybe because said policemen are gay haters?

mineistaken 01-19-2014 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19950271)
Ah, so it's only "propaganda" that is illegal? So kids are taught in school that some people are gay and some are straight and that's the way it is and that is cool?

That would be said propaganda. I assume.

Bottom line:

"We don't have a ban on non-traditional sexual relations" - said Putin.

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19950271)
Ah, so it's only "propaganda" that is illegal? So kids are taught in school that some people are gay and some are straight and that's the way it is and that is cool?

No, they aren't are they?

It is illegal to suggest to a child that homosexuality is normal and acceptable.

And then there are gangs of cunts roaming the streets kicking the shit out of people they think are gay and the police laugh at them when this is reported and there are cunts in this thread defending that?

Fuck me. You are cunts. Fucking cunts. And I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. You should be ashamed.

I love it that you are saying what I want to say, but I am far too polite...

mineistaken 01-19-2014 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DamianJ (Post 19950271)
It is illegal to suggest to a child that homosexuality is normal

Is 6 fingers on one hand normal?

mineistaken 01-19-2014 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950281)
I love it that you are saying what I want to say, but I am far too polite...

Still no answer why/how that video is relevant to the OP?
It merely proves that there are some intolerant/aggressive gay haters in Russia.
0 relevance to OP.

Jel 01-19-2014 04:38 PM

lol @ gaymian resorting to swearing, thought he was above all that? ad hominem blah blah etc etc

Jel 01-19-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950281)
I love it that you are saying what I want to say, but I am far too polite...

This bloke has been one of the biggest cunts to you on boards - man up and have fuck all to do with him. Show some self respect. Sorry to come over a bit harsh, but he's a fucking bully, has bullied you, and here you are cosying up to him. Sorry for the hijack, carry on...

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19950283)
Still no answer why/how that video is relevant to the OP?
...

The thread moved on, things were said...

That's why we call it a forum.....

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jel (Post 19950293)
This bloke has been one of the biggest cunts to you on boards - man up and have fuck all to do with him. Show some self respect. Sorry to come over a bit harsh, but he's a fucking bully, has bullied you, and here you are cosying up to him. Sorry for the hijack, carry on...

I know - You are right - DamianJ is an ass - Is it cosying up if he says something that is right though?..

He is an ass that is right this time.....

TheSquealer 01-19-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19950283)
Still no answer why/how that video is relevant to the OP?
It merely proves that there are some intolerant/aggressive gay haters in Russia.
0 relevance to OP.

Someone with an agenda, posted a video thinking it would further their agenda for the benefit of others with the same agenda who, predictably do the exact same.. No one even stops to ask "wait, what's going on in that video" and frankly, why bother. After all, a guy wrote a blog post about it and on spite of not adressing the content of the video at all, he did suggest it was about something it isn't and that's good enough!!

The amusing thing is the video is "proof" of something yet the content of the video and what was actually happening, what was said etc etc etc isn't even discussed in the article.

Basically the video has the 3d intro animation with the words "occupy pedophilia" starts by showing a comversation between the guy and what the guy believes is a 15 yr old boy. They agreed to meet for sex and the guy is ambushed by the 4 with the video camera.

The rest we know because it's the same conversations that play out on every "to catch a predator" episode. He's eventually saying he's just there to help the boy, to let him know it's not safe to meet people like this and all the usual bullshit that sexual predators say once caught.

But hey, the guy who introduced this lie said he "moved on" from his lie. So I guess that's it. After all why shouldn't adults go fuck children. Apparently that's all fine if it helps make a point, in the minds of some, I guess. Nothing for some to be concerned about if it overlaps their agenda.

EddyTheDog 01-19-2014 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 19950282)
Is 6 fingers on one hand normal?

It is wrong to suggest to a child that his classmate with 6 fingers is somehow 'bad' - The fact you think different sums it up...

Sly 01-19-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 19950326)
It is wrong to suggest to a child that his classmate with 6 fingers is somehow 'bad' - The fact you think different sums it up...

Strange that you are more concerned about his views on a child with six fingers than whether or not you used a "To Catch a Predator" style video to support your cause. Frankly I'd be a bit upset right now until I knew for sure what was in the video I have been ranting about for the past 2 days…


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