What fucking tool. There's your hero, Minte. I don't know what's worse...bending over that Koch brother dick, or not knowing it wasn't an actual Koch brother.

The guy is a real hero of the people. This isn't the first time he's been labeled a shit bird.

Ah,,you must mean kind of what Obama is for George Soros.. He's worse than the Koch brothers. He has convinced the fools that he actually cares about their well being.

And in the meantime the debt clock continues to grow under Obama. The debt clock in Wisconsin has stopped and reversed itself. So who is better off.

Yeah... I'm stupid. lets pretend as if you didn't say we need to "roll out the guillotines" to deal with the people you don't like and then went on to defend and rationalize that remark, particularly after I called attention to the lunacy of the idea of killing people just because you disagree with them. An idea which you both embraced and defended.

As i've said that is the reasoning that was used by every murderous lunatic and the basis of every destructive revolution in history. "those guys are evil" and "those guys must be destroyed at any cost" because "those guys" are the problem"... so you're on the right track to following your thinking through to its only logical conclusion and wearing a suicide vest into an office building.

I hope for the sake of humanity that the mods alert Homeland Security.... before you actually hurt people simply because you've reasoned that they deserve it.

Well said, he is called a liberal because the sheep repeat what the pundits tell them. If you separate the bullshit he says with what he actually does. He is to the right of Nixon.

Actually you are mistaken.
http://www.azcentral.com/business/co...en-a-drop.html
The debt is dropping like a rock but I will let you go back to your talking point.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The problem with righties is, they don't care until it effects them. When it does,then they scream the loudest. And it will eventually effect everyone especially in a consumption based economy.

Tony, my taxes went up 5% this year. The amount I contribute to the employee healthcare plan went up 6 figures. And that was money that would've funded another across the board raise for the labor force.


And your article that the national debt has dropped I didn't even bother reading. The debt has not dropped. It's increasing every hour of every day. Before Obama leaves office it will be close to $20T.

Anyone who thinks that simply slowing down the pace of borrowing without any idea at how to balance a budget ends up in bankruptcy.

Of course you wont read it because its fact not opinion. slowest spending since Eisenhower.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickunga...-barack-obama/

That's fine Tony, you can wrap a turd in bacon...it's still a turd.

The national debt is increasing daily. It will be close to $20Trillion before obama is out.

It would of grown no matter who was in office. Wars are expensive, interest on the debt, new large depts like homeland security. Also a growing population. Tax laws with holes you can drive a truck thru. It all adds up. But its ok a Republican will come in as president spend like crazy and you will cheer. They run the The Santa Claus theory on people and they eat it up every time.

Tony, It's Democratic President Barack Hussein Obama at the helm. He has been there now for over 5 years. We haven't been at war since he was elected. We are an occupying force in Afghanistan. If it were important to him he would've left there the first year of his term.
It wasn't important. As a matter of fact increasing the US role of world police is important to him. He is responsible for this debt. Not Scott Walker, not Chris Christie or Mitt Romney

This is all on Obamas watch.

Why do you people defend this clown.

Us against them. Rah rah rah.

Works great for high school football games and warring countries.

Which is funny to think about. From the same person, you will hear the following two statements:
A) Iran is not bad, they are just peaceful people that our government has painted as evil so that we hate them and want a war.
B) Republicans are evil, they are destroying the country and the world, bring out the guillotines.

Do we see any irony in those statements? Any?

Bueller?

I'm sure that some people think that Walmart paying slave wages and keeping it's workforce on federal welfare is a success too.

The only sensible thing is the part were they raised more money with taxes. Proof that tax money brings in money (cough). Lets all agree to return tax rates to sensible levels instead of these temporary but never ending Bush tax cuts for the rich. Finally, something to agree on.

Bingo. All Dems care about is their "team". All Repubs care about is their "team".

What they don't understand is...the politicians are all on the same "team". The team that is fleecing the citizens.

And Pres. Obama has been in charge for 5 LONG years of "recovery" that never came. This is HIS economy and has been for a while now.

He is a failure. I don't give a damn if he is Democrat or Republican. He's weak and a total failure.

I still haven't met even one Walmart employee on "welfare". I know there are lots of senior citizens who work at Walmart to supplement their social security checks. Maybe that's where the "Govt. assistance" stats come from?

I know 2 girls that work the checkout at Walmart personally. They aren't on welfare. Matter of fact I first met them at Revolver (nightclub) at Santa Fe Station. They both have cars, cellphones, and apartments. And like most people they are part of a 2 income "family" (they both have boyfriends they live with).

I was at Walmart last night. I was greeted at the door by an elderly lady who is definitely getting a social security check and working to make more money.
I asked for help to find something from a young black woman who worked there.

Working the checkout was a young lady.

All of them had nice jewelry, makeup, hair done nicely, nice watches...nothing extravagant, but definitely not what anybody would call "poor".

"Slave" wages? Starting pay at minimum wage for an unskilled labor position is NOT "slave wages".
If you don't like the easy job at Walmart, you can always go stand in line at "ManPower" and hope someone stops and picks you for a crew to dig ditches or fence posts for minimum wages and hard labor.

Where do you get your freakin' work ethic from anyway?

Some of you guys weren't raised right. Go to work. Earn your way. Stop expecting the world to give you something. You aren't owed ANYTHING.

nicely done! now he can pay back all those loans

It is nicely done, Richard. People that understand finance don't pay off loans. They manage their debt. They restructure and refinance at the right time. If you knew how much money I owe, you would puke in your mouth. And if you knew how much money people owe me you would puke in your mouth again,

What happens when you manage your debt and your revenue correctly like Gov. Walker has in Wi is that you can pay off some things when the timing is right you can purchase other things when the timing is right. When you run things like Obama does, that option is taken away. Obama plays defense. Walker plays offense.

Walker is managing the states wealth. And anyone that can read a P&L and a balance sheet recognizes that.

i do anyway.

still have the puke from the first time

your boy was recorded planning the use of agent provocateur, and i believe they eventually found ammo cases in the crowd

anyway, good luck with the 'chartered schools'

I know you still have puke in your mouth Richard. There is no doubt you are being very honest about that.

I don't have any idea what you are talking about in the rest of your post, but that's not unusual. You are consist in being slightly esoteric.:pimp

New site for peakbucks, rich guys puking into other rich guys mouths after talking about how much money they are owed and owe. Should sell like crazy. Not sure if visa will allow it though sadly

with your local politics?

not my problem

You are missing the mark. It's not the people that understand finance that are puking in their mouths over things they don't or can't comprehend. It's the guys at the opposite end of the spectrum.

This is only partially true.

You are very quick to blame Obama for our deficit, but fail to mention that the Bush administration nearly doubled the debt then left office with the country in a massive free falling recession. With the condition the country was in after Bush left office, the deficit was only going to go up no matter who was in office.

He's a douche who promised to help Wisconsin create 250,000 jobs by 2015 and then continues to waste taxpayer money by travelling all over the state in order to jump in front of the cameras whenever this business here creates 5 jobs or that business there hires 12 more employees.

You are a total fucking asshole. :2 cents:

I am only very quick to blame Obama for not even trying anything to reduce the debt. He simply ignores it like it doesn't exist.

You won't find a post I've ever made supporting wild spending from any president, I have been here for 12+ years and we knew each other 3-4 years before GFY opened.
It hasn't happened and it never will. I didn't support the war spending in Iraq. I sure didn't support 12 years in Afghanistan. I do not support Obamacare.

Spectrum?

There is a micron-thin dark black band on the first .0000001% of the bar graph followed by a very light silver thin band covering the rest of the first 1%. Then a nearly identical shade of gray from the 2% Mark to the 100% Mark. That's some "spectrum" ain't it?

Your definition of spectrum may suit you but it's not in the context of my statement.

Regardless,that being said, what side of the spectrum would you prefer to be on.

One of the 85 or one of the rest?

pot :2 cents:

Wow! :eek2

You done jumped the shark.

Bigtime.
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Right back atcha :thumbsup

ooohh BURN

really? Tell me how I defend him.
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19952167&postcount=44

Debt doesn't counter back to zero when a new president comes in. There is also compounding interest on the debt. The war is over? lol And again the lowest level of spending to gdp since ike and you are like no. When its a fact. They laid off over 800k workers. But facts ruin the talking points. Because if you thought about it of course he is spending alot less congress holds the purse strings, he cant just write checks all by himself.

We are not talking about how nice of a guy Obama is. We are talking about a $trillion dollars a year in additional debt with no cares in the world about how to pay it back.
Obama doesn't care. He is more than fine with letting our grandchildren deal with.
All the excuses in the world don't change it. We were in Vietnam. We have had oil embargos..2 world wars. a depression. The country has always found a leader that worked on solutions to pay off these events.

We don't have that leader now. And the national debt proves that.

Lol! Yeah he's exactly the kind of leader republicans vote for.

Mark, you should really just back away and take a deep breath. If you have declined to a point where you look at success as a bad thing, there really isn't anything to discuss.

You and _____Richard_____ need to make your own thread and spend your time tossing stupid one-liners back and forth at each other...while you giggle and LOL with glee. It would be entertaining, for 10 minutes or so.

But there was not ANY possibility of reducing the deficit. Period. It just wasn't possible. Business came screeching to a halt, and the only thing that kept us going was that the government was spending money.

But because all you want to do is bash Obama, you will never admit this.

You think Romney would have done better? All Romney has ever done is borrow money from other people.

And you believe that?
How did we payoff WWI
,WW2,Korea,Vietnam, the first gulf war?

Obama has given anyone that works with finance too much ammunition not to be bashed. And bashed hard. His policies are a disaster and his leadership capacity is a joke.

I know Romney would've done better with the economy. He has learned how to make and manage money. Tell me again, what Obama has done in his life?