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forget about it, it's way too complicated for him to get it.

Integration is not the same as multiculturalism is.. of course there is a possibility that the second follows the first after some time, but I think that you guys have more problems in the UK with the non-EU immigrants (except the gypsies), then the EU immigrants..

Yep, in hes dreams. Drugs I think...

I believe because they are idiots. But nobody yet suggested them to join the EU BTW :2 cents:

Next will be a mission to Mars or straight to Alpha Centauri!

apparently protestors are being taken from hospitals, and taken into the forest and executed. not sure if true yet...but there is a big commotion going on about it a few places

actually I wouldnt judge him that bad, Dutch people usually know how to user their brain and have common sense :)

yes, of course is better to live in so called free country Russia, ruled by exKGB guy and his colleagues, responsible for 1999 bombings, with corrupted goverment and with strange mentality of people ;-)

It's better to shout up, you clown.

No problem and apology accepted. This is perfect example how easily things can escalate with few sentences (imagine it with more serious things and texts like you posted,observations,flammable statements...etc). And now, just imagine adding violence, on existing national tensions that are there in most of countries worldwide(especially if economy is bad, someone is always blaming other side). It is a recipe for disaster and precisely what someone there is trying to do and benefit from anarchy that will rise from mess and civil war. Now, try to think who will get most if Ukraine goes to war and country is divided? Russia don't need another war in it's backyard ,that is for sure.

Precisely same happened in Yugoslavia, problems and war are fueled from outside by arming different nationalities and then let them kill and devastate internally. Who will benefit from violence and demonstrations and what is coming next? What do you think? Let me tell you on what I've saw, learned and what I am now living every day: Banks,and companies.

In Yugoslav case, all of them were from EU/west(and basically took over complete economy of market with more then 22 millions people. That is tons of money that were not available to them before war). Russian investments were blocked by puppet regimes until recently (at least in Serbia) and simplified: other countries are giving orders and telling you what to do in own country. It is called democracy today and it is total shit,much worse then to have own people leading even bad ones(it is always better then foreigners). That is constant feeling of humiliation,mocking and when you see how every year your country is poorer and poorer, then it is already too late because you can't do shit. So I guess that on this theme should comment only people that at least once in a lifetime experienced occupation (that doesn't have to be exclusively by military means, but also through economics, law,and medias). I can write you whole day what countries that bring themselves into this position will have to face and how irritating and unpleasant it is for ordinary people, but I don't have time to do so (one of thing that are crazy is to tolerate terrorist and killers on own territory. Just few hours ago police officers in south of Serbia were attacked by Muslim extremist ( terrorists) and one is wounded. "Democratized" country don't have right to answer to that or it will again be some human rights problems and similar shit that is used as excuse to attack or put pressure on country (like they are talking about human rights in Ukraine right now). Those are things, that you need to feel on your own skin, and at that point, find out how you were actually wrong and that there is no way back or any kind of choice. I am afraid that that good % of Ukrainians simply don't know this and will get into same trap (if it ever happen).

Anyway,I am far away from theme so I will respond to your question: No, I don't think it is deliberate propaganda. Person that wrote it probably really feel what is written there. Problem is that those kind of statements and texts are used to make things worse and increase tensions between people and add some more paranoia. I also believe that government is doing bad things to own people to stop mess. It is nothing strange and every country in this world will do the same , and put pressure on people that they are holding responsible. It is not reserved for Ukraine only. What is important is to everybody stay calm because any scenario is better then civil war,violence and devastation. If country split , they will again give tons of money to weapons instead to improve quality of life. Again,someone form outside will benefit again from that, not people there. So, my personal opinion is that for millions of ordinary people any option is better then violence or war. Again, no one is letting Ukraine in EU and it won't ever happen so they should better stick to Russians that already gave them 15 billions and lowered price of natural gas. Any scenario is better then civil war and agresion that is one uneducated boxer is advocating. Even if complete country goes to "western" direction,it is better then war. There is also option to split country like it was case in Czechoslovakia but I doubt they are on that civilization level to do it and learn on other's mistakes.

Yep,but in my case only one side invaded and these are Germans. My city was also bombed and devastated by allied forces, twice in 1945 , with more firepower then Germans did in 1941. Let me paste you something from Wikipedia:

"Belgrade was bombed by British and American air forces on April 16 and 17, 1944, which was Orthodox Easter Day. The most important unit that took part was American 15th Air Force, based in Foggia in the south of Italy. This carpet bombing raid was executed by 600 bombers flying at high altitude. Civilian casualties were as many as 1,160, while German military losses were 18.[1][2] Belgrade was bombed again on 6 and 8 September 1944 with about 120 flying fortresses from U.S. 15th Air Force, which were accompanied by fighter planes. One unexploded bomb had a written 'Happy Easter' which amazed citizens of Belgrade. [3]"

And, yes we were on their side, against Nazis ,even saved 500 american airmen : https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5CXope9ncI but got that shit. Maybe for you wars are far away but again in 1999 bombings again started and German airforce was first time deployed after WW2,so it Europe is not so calm as you thing, maybe info are just too far from you. In this moment,we have tons of muslim terrorists on european soil, waiting mostly in Bosnia, parts of Serbia and Kosovo, many of them going currently in Syria to fight against Al Assad on Al Quaeda side. THis is far away from peace,it is just matter of time. BTW, where are you from?

Jebo ti musliman mamu sugavu u usta

For Kolargol: sentence you see above is demonstrating what I am telling you, there will be no peace here for a long time.

What Donnie the terrorist told me in Serbian is: Muslim fucked your scabies mom in mouth.

I guess he is irritated since someone mentioned them here and what are they preparing these days.

OMG OMG you translated what I wrote!! What will GFY retards think of me now!! I wont be able to sleep tonight.

Now be a good monkey and translate this as well: Jebali ti muslimani mamu sugavu u supak

I doubt no one here is thinking much about (muslims/you) ,it was just demonstration why muslims are problem and will always be,(just like in the rest of the world), and example to Kolargol why there will be no peace here.

But don't worry, there is always someone that is thinking about you and taking care, to be more precise , three of you are just handled this morning : http://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/928031-...rije-u-presevu

Anyway,I am glad you are still talking Serbian good, what is normal,since your grandparents are Islamised slavs during Ottoman occupation .

One more thing. I can see that you are mentioning scabies.Most of civilized world resolved this medical problem back in middle ages,so go ahead, try with something else now.

But of course there will be peace. As soon as you filthy serbs get the fuck back from wherever the fuck you came from. Back to mother Russia I guess. Just get the fuck out of Europe. You don?t belong here.

?If Serbia could be physically dragged out to see and sunk there, air over Europe would suddenly clear.? The Guardian, November 1912

I guess Brits finally learned something in last 100 years so here it is something from Sky News:

Kosovo Republika! Kosovo Republika! Kosovo Republika! :thumbsup

Sta je bilo sa srcem srbije? :) Sad nemate ni srce ni muda :)

Write in English , don't hide your real nature. And to answer your question, sit back and wait that your western friends stop protecting you for your drug trafficking services, and then you will get answer. We are working hard on solution,don't worry. It is about to come.

When I say services for your western owners,I am talking about stuff like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veliki_Trnovac

Veliki Trnovac is the main hub for trade in narcotics. There is a tacit agreement with Serbian authorities that Veliki Trnovac will not be attended by police in exchange for peace and not engaging in terrorist attacks on the part of local population. This was part of peace settlement in 2001, after the unrest within the Albanian population in this region of Serbia proper. Up to 60 tons of narcotics are traded anually; most of the drugs end up in Western European markets. [4]

We all know how it works, they gave you puppet terrorist state until they need you to process drugs for them and do dirty work. Lifetime of that temporary project is limited.

So you are working on a Final Solution then? :)

Turkey still is unstable, they have not regulated down their internal ethnic problems, more, they are fucking muslim Asia - won't join by default, though the half of them immigrated to Germany under a simplified EU association procedure, and now kebab is everywhere.

because ? ;-)

true and painfull ? sorry didnt wanted to be rude, nothing against your nation :) but lets be realistic....

WTF is wrong with police there?

Whats going on in Serbia?

http://www.telegraf.rs/vesti/928031-...rije-u-presevu

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As usually, muslim terrorists attacking.On killed today, (Norway passport but it is Kosovo muslim - albanian), and two arrested.Police office wounded in attack.

I am seeing fresh news about the protestors winning. WTF! Klicsko as vice-president, etc... WTF WTF!!

I don't pretend to understand what the disorder there is truly about but it is blindingly obvious that the rioters in that clip have no political intentions, they just want to fuck someone over - just think, almost every one of those policemen there have a wife and children at home waiting and worrying for them.

This revolution is inspired and financed by USA
this is nothing new

this is against Russia, they don't care about poor people from Ukraine

EU does not want Ukraine in EU, they just want to take off financial borders.
They want to buy Ukrainian industry (cheap, when there is big crisis). They want to make own factories in Ukraine. They want to sell own products there and produce cheap goods for Europe. They want more money.
And USA don't want strong Russia.

This is so simple.
Big money and politics. They want ukrainian people to be "useful idiots".

Ukraine is far far away from road to European Union.
There is no chance that they get any benefits from EU now or even for 20 years!
They feed ukrainian people bullshit, delusions and lies because they want to open financial borders and suck out goods and money.

After revolution they will offer financial help, i mean very expensive loans :)
and modernization of industry and agriculture by their own firms :)

So people, in near future expect increase of taxes, big indebtedness, and forget about free services, like education, national health service.
Forget about cheap energy.
prepare for high unemployment

Revolution must be expensive

alas

8char

CyberSeo is the most dumb piece of KGB and Stalin lover shit in this thread
stfu idiot and praise your Vova Putin. it's not your fucking business what's going on here.
i wish your relatives be here, so you know what does it mean
keyboard sucker

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Than they should Fucking Quit their jobs and stop defending mafia :2 cents:

I know there are zillion conspiracy-theories out there about these 'civil wars' but actually I don't believe this Ukranian situation is all staged.. This is a question of power and money, EU and USA support rebels because they hate Russia go stronger w having big impact/business w Ukraine.. Anyway, no matter if Ukraine can't be [or don't want to be] a part of the EU, I think for most protestors this is about killing their democracy with shitty unreal laws making protestors criminals.

Because you are acting like a clown, sorry. What country are you from? Please just TRY to explain me why your country is more free that Russia. It gonna be very interesting to see any real argument :2 cents:

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This is a very complex situation and I still believe no matter if russians gave them that 15 billions for cheap and lowered the gas price: let's be honest: this is still good business for Russia. And Putyin is bad bad bad and this can have bad consequences on Ukraine..
Too bad these small countries like ours are so vulnerable economically.. These middle/east european countries will Never Be Free.. :(
I never knew muslim radicals are so problematic there.. here in Hungary we have 0 issues like these..

This is fucking shame man :(
Honestly, if I were a serbian family guy I would leave and spend my life elsewhere.. Here we have way less issues [now i see and can relate] and still, lots of ppl are going away to live a decent life in some other EU country..


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http://www.mundosinislam.com/

I say fuck all religions, they are equal with brainwash.

oh please. so now the rhetorics... avoiding direct answers...Did Putin did it or no(1999) ? ;-) yeah i know. you can say about every goverment that they have blood on their hands, its going on from ancient greece...

one example why my country is "more free" than russia: we dont put political oponents to prison like Putin did with Chodorkovsky....

I am not saying that you have dictatorship over there. maybe something like "englightened monarchy", or whatever it is...maybe you are not used to other types of goverment since centuries...not yet..maybe

The same I can say about 9/11. Almost everybody thinks it was don't by the government and nobody has an evidence.

BTW, hos exactly those cases (let's consider both conspirecy theories correct) make Russia or the USA less free?

Oh please stop on that. Chodorkovsky was never been a political opponent to Putin. Two oligarchs just had a war for the stolen billions. One has won, the other has lost. The only and one real and serious Putin's opponent is Navalny. But once again, it has nothing to do with my freedom.

You said something about freedoms but was unable nether to tell which exactly country are you from (it's not NK I hope ;)) and why do you think that I'm less free in Russia than you wherever you are. Any real arguments? Something that makes me less free as a person?

So I've been right. You have no arguments at all.

Not a good sight to see. People always clash.

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So please don't take it as an insult when I call you a clown. You wanted to explain me why my country is less free than yours but you fail. You haven't named a single argument what you as a citizen of <a magical free country> can do and what I - a citizen of Russia can't. If it wasn't a circus with clowns and you were not afraid to name your country, it would be a different talk.

I'm from Ukraine.

Let me share my thoughts.

2004 - Yuschenko and Co. won the Orange Revolution

Later on there had been events that people were amazed to see: Yanukovitch became a Prime Minister...
It started right there.

I believe it was well played to sort of give people a Revolutionary candidate from the start to then easily change him back to Yanukovitch - how would you explain Yuschenko lives pretty good life nowadays and is not responsible for anything we're told Timoshenko did?

All the years under Yanukovitch the society witnessed the country falling down and down the economy lane while the State authorities gaining more and more influence, wealth and power.

Losing successful business / practice became reality, investors started to run out. And then Yanukovitch decided to tighten business climate in Ukraine so it would become easy to press charges against anyone.

The last hope, the EU association was cut and it became the last drop in the nation's patient behavior . . .

Now people stand against current regime, not exactly for EU.

just spoke to someone from the Ukraine, he said given the EU/Russia choice, you would have to be crazy to choose Russia

so far only 1 out of 4 Ukrainians i spoke to personally preferred the association with Russia - but he lives here in CZ and when asked whether he wants to go back to the Ukraine he said no

take that as you want

He is absolutely right. Ukraine has not future as a single country. And it's not the best place to live in (today, yesterday of aftertomorrow). No independent past, not future. I do predict a lot of small "ukraines" after that revolution. None of them will be independent of course.

Independence is not a word. Ukraine is independent. As a country on a paper. But it's tied up with Russian mafia very much. I'm to second what Stefan says, even I have postponed my visit back to Ukraine until it's over.

That's correct from a personal point of view, that's what people would say. But the Government says Ukraine would collapse once the borders are open for the cheap EU goods... LOL, I know, the owners are scared, a few who own the local Ukrainian plants, oligarchs mostly.

does that mean Russia has no goods to offer that would compete with Ukrainian products?

Its the job of the police to defend the status quo - its the same in every country.

For how many years? How many years it was independent before? Polish mafia, Russian Czarist mafia, German mafia, the USSR mafia? Who will be next? The EU mafia? Everywhere was "mafia" what didn't let the Ukraine to be independent. How many territory the Ukraine has got as a gifts from various mafias? E.g. from Russian Czarist and the USSR ones? Let's look on the map:

http://cs424617.vk.me/v424617774/4a2e/GbqXc6F3zD4.jpg

For everybody else who can't read Russian. That's an absolutely real map of the Ukraine. Only the yellow zone was belong to it before 1654 A.D. Everything else was gifted to it by the Czarist Russian and Soviet mafia + occupants during the years.

Yeah, take that as you want :2 cents: