what an astonishing thread. :(

Indeed...who doesn't! :thumbsup

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Are you fucking kidding me? How do people like you even exist?

I'm sure your next questions to start threads are:

Is it really racism if white people really are better than black people?
Was it really genocide and mass murder if the jews just really had it coming from the Nazi's?

So your argument is, "I wouldn't really like to be raped by a man, but I can only wrap my fuck wit head around the fact that there are rape fantasies so some women must like rape?"

Seek help. Seek professional fucking help.

This guy is heading dangerously down that path, he's the kind of dude that justifies date rape and then moves on to statutory rape because she looked old enough.

I fully agree Eddy, this shit has no place here and if any mainstream anti-porn crusaders found this dude and the other idiots responses in this thread, they'd have a fucking field day with it.

Wholly disgusted.

I sure hope Becky enjoyed it.

It's a control thing. Some women like it when a man is in complete control.

My wife is like that, which works for me. She doesn't like to be "raped" but she likes being told what to do....

It's a fine line sometimes by being pushy and successful or coming to terms with rape charges against a person.

Guys that don't know boundaries or have utter disregard, end up in prison. The rest beget the next generation of our race.

That's why huge percentage of Rape is not reported to authorities.

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

There is room for everyone, so yes.

rape no good

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Just go through his post history. He's a fucking loser cunt. Just saying.

Women don't secretly like rape...

Well, I didn't bother reading much of this thread but...

..a very high % of women has an orgasm while getting raped. It is something about fear and panic being so intense that it actually translates to orgasms.

Fun fact, ain't it?

I hear the % of men orgasming during rape is higher

Rape is very bad. I am against it

Fun fact. Women that got raped have had intercourse.

You are really dumb.

Ruby is british so I will have to believe anything she says about fetishes :winkwink:

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I guess its obvious nobody on this thread wanted a real answer but there is an interesting thread on Reddit today: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comment...exual_assault/

Rape or forced sex is an incredibly common fetish among women according to all studies. Of course, nearly 100% of the time these are simply women who have a fetish for domination or rough sex who are acting out rape role playing scenarios that are discussed in advance and subject to some rules like limitations and safe words between a woman and her husband, boyfriend or male friends that she trusts. These are what BDSM people refer to as consensual non-consent.

However- and I know some people won't want to hear this- there are some very few women who like to live dangerously for whom a set up role playing rape scenario done with a male friend or boyfriend that they trust is not enough to satisfy their fetish for being forced or dominated.

I personally have known a female acquaintance who was a total sexual freak who told me that she had purposefully put herself in situations to get taken advantage of by a guy or guys who she didn't know at all or only barely knew through mutual friends specifically because she was bored with the play acted rape scenarios they had done previously. It just wasn't real or intense enough to set up it in a safe way with a guy she already knew according to what she told me.

She said that she had gotten raped like this two or three times by guys she met at a club or at a house party through friends with varying results that ended up with the horny guys forcing oral or vaginal sex on her despite her protestations of no and also some minor bruises, but no serious injury. She also told me she had never come so hard in her life from these encounters.

The important distinction here is that the guys involved in these forced sex acts had no consent as far as *they* knew when they forced themselves upon this woman, even though the woman herself might have anticipated something happening to her. They thought that they were just taking advantage of a seemingly drunk young girl and that they could get away with it. I know it sounds out there- but after twenty-three years in this business and meeting thousands of sex crazed young women with all kinds of fetishes and hang-ups I was not surprised in the least by this kind of fetish.

There are plenty of other examples of women who have written about doing similar things online, which I would consider examples of someone with a real rape fetish, not just a fetish for the more consensual domination. Of course, I'm not advocating anyone rape anyone else. But to deny that such a phenomenon exists along with so many other crazy sexual practices is disingenuous.

^ right, but the cries of 'no' weren't actually real were they - no matter what the 'rapist' thought. So that isn't actually a rape is it. The very definition of the word rape = against the woman's will - if she wants it to happen, creates a situation where it happens, says no hoping they won't actually stop, then excuse my confusion - how on earth is that against her true will?

This is a matter of semantics that you are getting into. But I think it's important to remember that there are at least two people who are involved in the sex act. The women who have this fetish specifically want it to be a true rape as far as the mindset of the male partner who ends up forcing himself on her even if she gets excited by it when it happens.

This, as opposed to a boring safe set-up scenario where she has discussed the role playing scene with a boyfriend or male friend who she already knows and trusts to put on an act. It's the unpredictability, danger and reality of it that makes it exciting. I think it's reasonable to call that a rape fetish. You are free to disagree with the phrase for politically correct reasons or because you just don't like the terminology.

I disagree purely for the fact it isn't actually rape, not because it's politically correct or not, or purely on terminolgy. one is a rape fetish (everything you described) which of course exists, one isn't. the title isn't do women enjoy rape fetish though, it's do women enjoy rape. By the very definition of it, that's impossible.

I really wish we could just get rid of this vile thread once and for all...

I appreciate what you're saying but it's not up to you personally or even any particular printed or online English dictionary to define how people want to use words. And as I tried to point out previously, you only seem to be looking at it from the perspective of the female. If the guy forcing himself on a stranger who has absolutely no consent thinks he is doing a rape, then that's a rape as far as he is concerned isn't it?

The amount of false rape claims reported in this country is staggering. No wonder police can't take most cases seriously.

Thing is, even when the woman has either admitted lying or got found out she was lying, most times nothing happens to her. Yet the guy who was falsely accused has to deal with the tag of being a rapist all his life. Happens way too often, yet you never hear much ever being said about it.

A woman recently made a claim against her grandfather, saying he did things to her when she was younger. Only to admit she made the whole thing up later, because she wanted money. Sickening. I hope someone in the family gives her a beating...

yeah, we should all be free to define any old word any way we like. By the way, my previous sentence actually meant "football and chips are great instead of soap".

And yes of course it is as far as the 'rapist' is concerned, but again, the question was do women secretly enjoy rape - I took that to mean looking at it from the female perspective, being someone who doesn't see a bunch of words and make up my own meaning of them :1orglaugh

Actually, that is the entire and only point of a dictionary.

cnn says yes

http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/15/world/...html?hpt=hp_t2

Bingo. There is no reason for an argument here. Fact is there are plenty of women out there who have varying forms of rape fantasies and anonymous sex fantasies. Plenty of proof around if one cares to look. Problem is most women aren't comfortable with coming forward and confirming it right in your face, which is what most of those arguing would need as proof in order to shut them up about it.

And frankly there's nothing wrong with it. People have fantasies. Doesn't mean they want every single one fulfilled in reality. Fantasies are normal. People that get all worked up or outraged over the fantasies that others may or may not have are the ones who gall me the most.

So are we in agreement that some women never secretly like rape.

Some women have rape fantasies but the fantasy stops before it gets to reality and they would only fantasize about rape with a trusted person? - This seems a little contrived to me.

Women have orgasms during rape due to the heightened sense of arousal but they don't like it.

Rape can only be construed as rape is if "the woman doesn't want it". So if she says she doesn't want it but secretly does and tells the police and everyone around her that she doesn't want it but inside she did, it's still rape?

any source ?

Apparently you don't want an real answer to the OP question either. The link you posted only muddies the waters of the OP question. His question was "Do some women secretly like rape". He even added do some some women have fantasies about being raped. Many people have answered this post with the a resounding HELL NO.

The link you posted is about some people having orgasm while being raped or molested. This is not the same thing not even a little bit. Your link has absolutely nothing to do with wanting to be raped or even having a fantasy about being raped. It about the guilt of having an orgasm after some looser raped them.

BTW for those who still are not sure. Women do not want you to rape them! The few girls that tell you they have this fantasy are talking about role play not actually being raped by your dumb ass.

Well thank God you were here to clear that up, when I think of the millions of innocent minds that could have been led astray by my link not being a direct answer to the question posed in the thread title, I get down on my knees and I thank God for you, sir.

Sometimes I think that without self-righteous ass-hats like yourself talking down to everyone else, others might miss the reality that they are just a bunch of mindless children wandering aimlessly in harm's way.

You are a true hero of the internet and I salute you.

Not sure anyone in this thread is getting worked up or outraged over fantasies?

Its amazing that some people here need this pointing out to them.

No one needs it pointed out, it's just an opportunity for grandstanding assholes to feel like they are less fucked up than others.