Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 19964527)

There are definitely no programs at the level of the era before piracy exploded and full scenes were available for free by the hundreds of thousands.

For "real" affiliates promoting pay sites honestly by simply giving the customer a choice to click on a link to a site...it simply doesn't exist anymore.

How could it? Are surfers gonna look at blogs, tgps, etc. when they KNOW they can simply go to Pornhub and it's ilk and see full length scenes

Nope, for affiliates (not talking about email spammers and SEO blackhat guys, etc.) those days are gone now. :(
That whole business model that was so incredibly successful from it's inception in the 1990's up until the massive free give-away of porn is no longer viable I'm afraid.

Most paysites get the vast majority of sales that they still get from working their own sources.

On Claudia Marie's site...affiliate sales are pitiful these days. It's not their fault. It's just the way it is now. Instead of thousands of affiliate sales...I get hundreds of sales from type ins and her social networking (that's where the sales really come from).
But since I don't have to pay out 50% of my money on those sales...I'm able to make the same amount of bank as I did when I got far more sales from my affiliates.

Every paysite owner I have spoken to personally is seeing the same thing.

That's why we've seen so many affiliate programs close up shop. It just isn't worth it to them to invest in the affiliate program for such a low return. Why have affiliate managers, do payouts, all the paperwork, etc. when you can make the same money without them?

It's fucked up and obviously has cost a lot of people their jobs and their livelihoods.

But we all can be happy that some guys are making "more money than ever" and "adapting" and making great sales with "tube traffic".
Those guys are geniuses! :)

Originally Posted by Kimmykim (Post 20101046)

For most programs, all but the top couple of affiliates cost them more in support than they ever could generate in revenue. Going to an invite only or outright dumping affiliates was a good bet all the way back to '03/04 time frame to create more profits from the same revenue. Surfers got smarter and all that good stuff as well. I realized when there were more people in processing than people with sites that it was time to move on.

Originally Posted by Kimmykim (Post 20101046)

For most programs, all but the top couple of affiliates cost them more in support than they ever could generate in revenue. Going to an invite only or outright dumping affiliates was a good bet all the way back to '03/04 time frame to create more profits from the same revenue. Surfers got smarter and all that good stuff as well. I realized when there were more people in processing than people with sites that it was time to move on.

Originally Posted by interxfeel (Post 20101149)

Today it's very difficult to sell something knowing networks like tukif.com give all the videos full lenght on the market from the big sponsors

Originally Posted by Wellness Cash (Post 19964392)

We have all seen it happen, major sponsors at one time, such as Maxcash, ARS, SilverCash, TCG, etc are at the top of their game then, for whatever reason, they just vanish almost overnight.

Are there any relevant affiliate programs on the same level as programs past in the industry today or do you think it is more a mashup of smaller programs offering individual sites that most affiliates are using?

Originally Posted by Mr.Fiction (Post 20101137)

Kimmykim shouldn't be buried by spam posts.

Originally Posted by Kimmykim (Post 20101046)

For most programs, all but the top couple of affiliates cost them more in support than they ever could generate in revenue. Going to an invite only or outright dumping affiliates was a good bet all the way back to '03/04 time frame to create more profits from the same revenue. Surfers got smarter and all that good stuff as well. I realized when there were more people in processing than people with sites that it was time to move on.