tell you what wouj. You go do that full time for 6 months. Then show us what you earned.

Until you have done something worthwhile, something that you have proven to work through experience, you should probably stop giving people advice.

I completely agree.

If everyone did that, there would be nothing to up-sell to except cams and dating..

Well there is still an industry, yes. But it's really hard to believe that dating and cams made up for the lost revenue in paysites. For a decade paysites were the bread and butter of adult. Now they are mostly dying.

Yes, the paysite model is a minified breed but will always be around. Always. People will always buy porn. Period.

Sell something unique and specific. Something that people enjoy and are actively seeking out that only you can provide consistently and of high quality. A surfer comes across your site, chances are they will want to be a member. Don't build a product that's saturated in the free market. If you do, make it unique. Something that gives your product twice the value that customers NEED to have that the competing free content cannot offer. Keep tight reigns on your content. Sure, tube leaks happen but so be it... Keep a DCMA team on retainer and be actively involved in securing your videos and seeking out infringers. Offer stream-only. Do anything that keeps your site unique, fresh, for-members-only and stay atop of tech for your users.

Promote the literal fuck out of your site on every platform you can think of in a way that benefits the viewers, the platform and yourself. Repeat, repeat and repeat.

Yes, hard work. Lots of it.

There's no make-rich and dodge tube/content woes button on our desks but paysites can and still do make money.

as i said if you sell physical things or adverts.

ok, at the moment big firms would probably not want to advertise on porn sites, but i think soon they will. it just takes one firm to take the plunge and i suspect they would get better results per $ than advertising on any other medium. and once one does it, they all will.

and dating and cam sites now use the free model.

what are the biggest earning sites? google, facebook and so on. they are free. they use the free model. yes, facbook could charge membership, but it sticks to free.

People will always buy porn?

realy?

what is your evidence?

if that was true then porn mag sales would still be doing well and so would blu-ray porn films.

people are not bying porn. they get it free.

have you not seen sites such as xhamster? the people who run that sites must wet themselves knowing you will not change. they want you to stick to the pay membership model as more you do the more they make $$$$$.

in the last few years i have been given passwords to check peoples sites out. do you know what, i could not even be bothered. i could not be bothered looking at the site even with free passwords. do you know how i looked at the sites content? i just went to xhamster, it was quicker and easer.

For a moment had forgotten why I never visit GFY anymore.. and topics like these are the very reason.

And tangible items like sex toys, condoms, etc

fiddy faggots named dvtimes

Who the fuck buys condoms via a website when they are in every fucking 7-11, Wal-greens, Walmart, Kmart, grocery store, newsstand, and given away FREE in almost every nighclub and bar.

Sure, I am horny so let me order my yearly supply of condoms online and wait...BULLSHIT! No one does that! Get real :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Sex toys...really? You got to be kidding, if some asshole wants a dildo they go to the neighborhood sex shop so they can see them in person and buy immediately for use. Not order and wait a week. Who needs to pay the shipping anyway.

Just fucking stupid...and what are these mysterious "etc" that you mention? Hum? :thumbsup

On a board FULL of ignorant posts, the OP's original post easily makes the Top 3 list.

There is still silly money to be made with paysites. Just because you or people you know can't make money with them, it doesn't mean they are dead. It just means you, or whoever you are speaking to, should go flip burgers and stay out of the way of those who know how to make money.

Aside from the fact that Google can buttfuck the current free porn model into extinction at any moment.

You do realize that lad mags are hurting worse than the porn industry right?
FHM closed US circulation
Maxim US is struggling
Their internationally licensed publications are barely getting by except in emerging markets where it's a bit of an ad bubble similar to 1999-2001 dotcom eras for magazines in the states.

Wow, I made it through this entire thing...

The best advice I read in the entire thing dealing with pay sites, is to have something unique, in a unique way (streaming-only if necessary), with updates. Keeping it fresh will help ward off fappers-remorse. ;)

You're not wrong, we're taking a "freemium" approach

and movie theaters are dead? they should air movies with commercials instead?...thats exactly what I want a pop up fest when I wank or watch a movie...


the pay model is never ever dead...theres 2 types of surfers, cheap fucks and people who are willing to pay for what they want...market to the latter, fuck the cheap fucks :2 cents:

Seems legit as hell:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

Did I just read the tube-user manifesto?

The porn industry is an example of what happens to a capitalistic market without government regulation. All of the anti-competitive behavior, copyright infringement through stolen content, and M&A monopolies that have taken place would never have been allowed in the mainstream world.

Damian ain't right about all that many things, but he was sure right about you :321GFY
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This :thumbsup
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I run almost 40 paysites now and have grown from $0 five years ago to $xxx,xxx now so here's my secret (for those of you capable of "getting it", which excludes the OP):

Tell a good story.

You're welcome.