Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19981658)

I am not missing the point. You think the moral of the story is that you should not act like an idiot if you dont want to get shot. I think that is a ridiculous position.

Who decides what is offensive ?,who decides what level of cunty behavour deserves the death penalty ? Does this apply to internet trolls and insults dished out on forums ?

We all get along just fine in places where shooting those that offend you is not an option. People rub each other up the wrong way all the time, nobody dies.

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19981658)

Who decides what is offensive ?,who decides what level of cunty behavour deserves the death penalty ?

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19981658)

I am not missing the point. You think the moral of the story is that you should not act like an idiot if you dont want to get shot. I think that is a ridiculous position.

Who decides what is offensive ?,who decides what level of cunty behavour deserves the death penalty ? Does this apply to internet trolls and insults dished out on forums ?

We all get along just fine in places where shooting those that offend you is not an option. People rub each other up the wrong way all the time, nobody dies.

Originally Posted by NewNick (Post 19981367)

With regards to not acting like an idiot and you wont get shot; acting like an idiot does not give anyone the right to shoot you.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 19981672)

I choose to not let the psychos decide if I live or die.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19981692)

You must live in Disney World. Almost every day I enter areas where my personal behavior determines what happens next.


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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19981703)

Why does everyone think we're taking a "pro gun" stance here when it's the exact opposite? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by Tittytweaker (Post 19981551)

There's even an enhanced version of the video that shows that Oulson threw his cellphone at him as well, and that when that struck him, that's when Reeves thought he was starting to throw punches.

I'm a pretty left leaning guy. And I hate to use the term "anti-gun agenda" because it sounds so ridiculous, but I don't know how else to describe what's been going on lately with all these gun stories.

The movie theater incident, to me, seemed like a pretty clear case of some yuppie douche bag getting his shorts in a twist and wanting to play tough guy after Reeves complained to the management.

The younger guy was a hothead who escalated a non issue. He felt like the tougher individual because he was up against an old man. -THAT- is scarier, to me, than the idea that the old guy felt the need to shoot.

Just curious, what's the local coverage been like when compared to the national news?

Originally Posted by jmcb420 (Post 19981833)

Our society often makes people snap. That's all there is to it. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it happens.

You never know when or where it will happen. That's why it should behoove one to not be the person most likely to blown away by the guy who finally snapped.

I don't think people should live in fear, but it's a matter of common sense. If you're going out of your way to attract attention to yourself, or acting in an inappropriate manner, you're asking to be the target IF the shit hits the fan.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19981765)

Martin was killed because he liked skittles.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19981115)

What's sad is that the "stand your ground" law is invoked more often by black shooters that shoot other black people.... and yet the OP NEVER posts any of those cases.






"Blacks make up 16.6 percent of Florida's population but account for 31 percent of the defendants invoking the stand your ground defense. Black defendants who invoke this statute are actually acquitted 8 percentage points more frequently than whites who use this very same defense.

Those who conclude the law is racially biased point to data compiled by the Tampa Bay Tribune, which collected 112 cases where people charged with murder relied on Florida's stand your ground law, from the first cases in 2006 to July 24 of this year. The Tribune's "shocking" claim: 72 percent of those who killed a black person faced no penalty compared to 59 percent of those who killed a white.

But this doesn't tell the whole story as blacks are overwhelmingly killed by other blacks. Thus, it is also true that blacks claiming self-defense under the stand your ground law are convicted at a lower rate than are whites. About 69 percent of blacks raising the stand your Ground defense were not convicted compared to 62 percent of whites.

If blacks are supposedly being discriminated against because their killers so often are not facing any penalty, it must also follow that they are being discriminated in favor of when blacks who invoke a stand your ground defense are convicted at a lower rate than are whites. Those who interpret the data as evidence of racism are cherry-picking numbers.

Simple averages also missed important differences in these cases. The Tribune data shows blacks killed in these confrontations were 13 percentage points more likely to be armed than whites. This suggests that those claiming that they were defending themselves often reasonably believed that they had little choice but to kill their attacker.

By a 43 to 16 percent margin, the blacks killed were also more often in the process of committing a crime."


http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...ground-defense



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Originally Posted by Just Alex (Post 19980536)

Im not talking about this dude. In general how do you get those mother fuckers to shut up?
My cousin has has one of those dining movie theaters and its great. Keeps them out because you have to buy $30 worth of food and drinks.

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 19987122)

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19987141)

Its just a tool but with that tool people are alot braver then they would be without it. Also I bounced for 10 yrs saw lots of fights no one was ever killed. Now they make it legal to carry a gun everywhere with a get out of free I was scared for my life defense= lots of dead people.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19987223)

Your IDEA sounds about right...... except for the actual FACTS about the states with more legal gun-carrying people having LOWER crime rates than the states with tough gun laws.... and the FACT that since Right-To-Carry laws started to sweep across the country, murder rates have dropped in every state where they were passed almost immediately, and have stayed down.

So other than the actual real life numbers of what actually happened, your idea sounds perfectly valid.



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Originally Posted by Cherry7 (Post 19987523)

Just ignore all the International evidence. By your logic the most dangerous place in the world should be Sweden.

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 19981765)

Martin was killed because he liked skittles. This kid was killed because he liked music. It's okay to hate.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19987223)

Your IDEA sounds about right...... except for the actual FACTS about the states with more legal gun-carrying people having LOWER crime rates than the states with tough gun laws.... and the FACT that since Right-To-Carry laws started to sweep across the country, murder rates have dropped in every state where they were passed almost immediately, and have stayed down.

So other than the actual real life numbers of what actually happened, your idea sounds perfectly valid.



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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 19987223)

Your IDEA sounds about right...... except for the actual FACTS about the states with more legal gun-carrying people having LOWER crime rates than the states with tough gun laws.... and the FACT that since Right-To-Carry laws started to sweep across the country, murder rates have dropped in every state where they were passed almost immediately, and have stayed down.

So other than the actual real life numbers of what actually happened, your idea sounds perfectly valid.



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Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19987577)

In Ga they just made it legal to carry in bars, big fun.

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19987577)

Tell that to the little girl without a father or the wife of the senile old man who got shot or the parents of the kid playing loud music. In Ga they just made it legal to carry in bars, big fun.

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 19987634)

Two tragic, isolated incidences against stats that represent the whole populace.

Yeah, okay then.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 19981769)

Most local coverage has shown the actual video, https://youtube.com/watch?v=oKE8LN9PP0k , so many times that the question is why the young guy was so enraged with someone 30 years his senior. Which is something Florida's aging population watches closely. I'm sure most national news just says a texter got shot by an ex-cop.

Originally Posted by tony286 (Post 19987577)

Tell that to the little girl without a father or the wife of the senile old man who got shot or the parents of the kid playing loud music. In Ga they just made it legal to carry in bars, big fun.