I got to the last line thinking I would apologize for the last line of my post...

I hate it when people do that to me, so sorry.....

You also might like to see some of my previous rants re: piracy - Defiantly not pro...

Anyway - Please tell us who the pirates are - You are performing a service - However I want to see and hear them - Banning them from GFY serves no purpose other than feeding some over inflated egos.....

I'd say no rule change, not going to happen anyways.

I hate to see 2 guys with similar views on a subject butting heads (no innuendo intended).

But don't be butt heads and self-destruct the thread. J/K

MmmKay

LOL!

Peace????!!!!

I would LOVE to blast some real names and address' of these scum on here ala Harmon...but for me it's chess not checkers :winkwink:

OK Carry on - Just remember - keep your friends close but your enemies closer - I like to know what they are thinking...

good for you - you moved on from Freeones - which more than any pirate site is responsible for the wholesale destruction of the solo site biz...not that you guys did anything wrong, you played by the rules - it's just that the rules are skewed in the affiliate biz such that super-affiliates like Freeones can eat their young like Hamsters.

I've seen models cry when I showed them their Freeones page, when they realize they have no shot at making a living with their own site because everything they have ever done is aggregated on one site, hard, soft - twitter - real name facebook for their parents to see (due to your prime SEO)..even some pirate links thrown in there to boot (inadvertent I'm sure)...but yea you WOULD say no rule change - the rules worked great in your favor, just like Wall Mart, Freeones helped kill the mom and pop solo affiliates as sure as any pirates ever could.

I was wondering before - It turns out you are just a fucking moron as I suspected - Please fuck off...

That didnt take long :)

Models cry huh, i've seen many cry from joy when we pushed them on the main page generating a ton of sales for them. But thats another debate ;)

Reason I say no rule change is that I prefer to see what people are doing rather than ban them and ignore their existence. Like said above, keep you enemies closer :2 cents:

There is no debate - we don't disagree on how much traffic you can push. But yes models have cried and that's factual, especially when their real names are cross referenced as AKA - for each model you have sent mass traffic to (very few of those are actually partners in their solo site) how many have not even had a chance to get a site of their own due to too many freeones links - as a solo model scout since the early days thats always been the main criteria "How much free promo content is on freeones" that is the litmus test for if a model can make money with a site.

Like I said you guys did nothing wrong - too much free explicit promo content ruined the solo site biz - you guys just mopped up the wreckage and profited the best from it. No harm no foul, but spare me the self-pat on your back.

There is no self pat really, I just don't agree with you. I do fully agree on the real name part though, that's something the owner thought was a good idea. We as a team were able to get that out eventually, again no self pat.

carry on.

50 banned pirates

Interesting statement from a user who's openly gloating malicious words against iSeekgirls.com brand. You're a nobody, the hallmark of frivolous legal thuggery.
You've clearly and openly displayed bumptious third party legal threats in an effort to ruin their brand.

'bumptious' - If its not a real word it should be...

bumptious - I am bumptious.....

You must not represent iSeekgirls or be in anyway affiliated with them - if you were you would understand that I did the exact opposite of make any effort to hurt their "brand".

If you do represent them I suggest this end right here and now.

First there is this :2 cents: then there is the fact that this place has never been and never will be a democracy and last, there is a whole fucking sub-forum dedicated to content theft and piracy.

Learn to use it, there is probably a reason why it was created in the first place :winkwink::winkwink::thumbsup

bumpalicious

Good point to bring that to our attention - however it's kind of missing the point.

Should pro-piracy members be allowed here OR any sub-forums is the point.

How would you even decide if someone is pro-piracy?

Easy as pie. Do a GFY search for the phrase "adapt or die" and you'll find nearly all of our resident pirates and pirate lovers. Shouldn't take more than a grammar school education to then discern the context in which the "someones" in question used that all too familiar phrase :thumbsup
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I for one would like to see included in the defination
a) anyone supporting user uploaded tubes with money or content
-and -
b) anyone accepting money from companies who own user uploaded tubes in the name of [air quotes] fighting piracy [/air quotes]

Also, I recommend that to avoid a wave of McCarthyism, anyone who publicly accuses someone of being pro-piracy without first presenting hard evidence should be repeatedly kicked in the nutsack and banned.

:)

:thumbsup

Perhaps you are afraid of being lumped with them? :upsidedow

It can be a slippery slope, just because you have/had pirates on your easyx sites doesn't make you a pirate. If it can be proved that you encourage the behavior with some kind of incentive or turn a blind eye, then that's one other thing; but I've never thought that was the case.

I don't know why you have slightly antagonistic posts in some of the anti piracy threads when overall you are a clean guy. Be nice Markul. :)

interesting

Hate to tell ya but this board is owned by AVN and AVN gives its awards to pirates and asks them to be keynote speakers...I agree we need to take a stand against piracy but it aint gonna start here

Where then?

Troll moment:

Should those found to support piracy have their nutsack tucked in their asshole and be barebacked by a recently blacklisted for a positive std test performer, std based on the severity of their support/involvement of piracy?

Seriously:

This is 1 reason why a rule such as this would not work here.

You would never get people to agree on both how to define the infraction and how to punish the infraction.

With all the mistrust here it is easy to question others ethics, efforts, and agendas.

When all the finger pointing and name calling is put aside what gets done about the real issue at hand?

We all love the money in our pockets from our efforts and like to hold on to it.

Some of you get major IBS when you realize what you are not getting due to piracy. For Property/Rights Holders it is a loss of income, no one in business likes to work for free and income loss is just that to this group of people.

Some of you are in a business that actually benefits from piracy and the liberal DMCA take down processes and safe harbor loopholes knowingly. A rule such as this might create losses for you or cause your position to be questioned openly. It is easy to see why you would oppose it or want to incorporate clauses/propaganda to discourage it.

We can argue various talking points until hell freezes over. A few posts on the subject surely enables most if not all here to make an accurate assessment who is pro-piracy and who is not. You can try to call it a witch hunt but isn't that really just Stone Walling?

Anyone can try to rationalize a "Indifferent" position all they want but not deciding to care about this issue is just a rubber stamp approval without coming out and saying you are pro-piracy. At some point in time you man up and answer the Yes or No question with a Yes or a No.

I would not expect anyone to make an accusation without having some form of proof.

I, also, would expect that the proof would need to be verified before any action was taken.

Don't you trust the staff here to act responsibly?

No one in support of the topic wants to have the label of "Pirate" used like other derogatory labels/terms are used here to troll people.

This separates the "Adults" from the kids.

I am against piracy but tubes in my eyes are even worse. As long as programs are giving away videos over 2 minutes that include cumshots they don't even need user uploads...

:thumbsup

It does not enhance their business here.

This same discussion has been held on many boards, in the end site traffic and it's relationship to advertising income is always the major determining factor.

Glad I could help put things in perspective.

:)

Having pirates here is useful to us, on a number of levels.

AK has spoken - thread over

I think you know why and I've explained it a number of times :winkwink:

If piracy is an issue for the industry, then it needs to be an issue we can learn about.

If we all only speak to people who share our views already, nobody learns anything.

No rule change.