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Relentless 04-19-2014 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 20056037)
I thought he was a 'Bro' ?

'Bro' has no definition. Much like 'shaving' it has no meaning and gets tossed around when it is convenient but it doesn't serve any real purpose.

What you should know is I've now done business with three people who contacted me as a direct result of this thread, while you have sat and pointed out that you can't do better than the people you complain about. The people working professionally in this industry pay attention to those facts. The same way they pay attention to $ / click... because those facts actually matter and can be clearly defined. :2 cents:

Relentless 04-19-2014 05:12 PM

I had no idea who Matt26v is and had no idea what he does in this industry. I assumed he was a large scale affiliate with a deep interest in avoiding being shaved because he pushes thousands of sales (so even a 1% shave would cost him a ton of money). Now someone just Skyped me his history and it all became much more clear.

100 posts in a contest thread over a four day period?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=610324
https://gfy.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=610324
https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=4910177

Do you do anything else in adult Matt26v, or is posting in contest threads your full time occupation?

Matt 26z 04-19-2014 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20056055)
I had no idea who Matt26v is and had no idea what he does in this industry. I assumed he was a large scale affiliate with a deep interest in avoiding being shaved because he pushes thousands of sales (so even a 1% shave would cost him a ton of money). Now someone just Skyped me his history and it all became much more clear.

100 posts in a contest thread over a four day period?

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=610324
https://gfy.com/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=610324
https://gfy.com/search.php?searchid=4910177

Do you do anything else in adult Matt26v, or is posting in contest threads your full time occupation?

That was nearly a decade ago. :1orglaugh

Relentless 04-19-2014 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20056066)
That was nearly a decade ago

Yes, I noticed your primary occupation was posting a hundred times in a contest thread back when it was easy to make money in adult. That's what you did then while everyone else made bank, what do you do to pay bills now?

Matt 26z 04-19-2014 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20056076)
Yes, I noticed your primary occupation was posting a hundred times in a contest thread back when it was easy to make money in adult. That's what you did then while everyone else made bank, what do you do now?

It was free money and I wasn't the only one doing it (some well known GFYers were using fake nicks so they wouldn't be seen in "lowly contest threads"). Leave the thread open, put up a "bump" post and get paid 50 cents each. It added up over time. This forum usually had 2-3 contest threads going at once.

Relentless 04-19-2014 06:15 PM

Yup, tons of super-successful people were posting 25 times a day for 12.50 in a contest thread back when the adult industry was booming a decade ago.

That doesn't answer the question... What do you do to pay the bills these days Matt26v?

signupdamnit 04-19-2014 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20055816)
For anyone that missed it earlier....

http://i.imgur.com/K7pLqPu.jpg

Maybe people should start posting this image over and over again in any thread Relentless tries to do business in. It's pretty much what he is doing here to Teencat. I think I might also look for any place mentioning his services on the internet and I will post my opinion that he is a paid shill and that surfers should see the seal as a mark of a possibly bad business. Let's see how he likes a taste of his own medicine. Time to quit being an asshole.....

Relentless 04-19-2014 06:28 PM

Weren't you the one who claimed you put me on ignore? Seems you are being dishonest. If you don't want to read my post, put me on ignore. That's why the feature exists.

By the way, before publicly calling on anyone in an attempt to libel my brand, be sure to sign an indemnification agreement for them.

Happy Easter

signupdamnit 04-19-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20056089)
Weren't you the one who claimed you put me on ignore? Seems you are being dishonest.

By the way, before publicly calling on anyone in an attempt to libel my brand, be sure to sign an indemnification agreement for them.

Happy Easter

I can still hit view post and I still see quotes unfortunately. Posting an opinion isn't libel. You can go fuck yourself on that one buddy, Easter or not, you deserve it. :) Try not being an ass if you don't want people to call you an ass. Show some fucking respect to Lucas/Teencat.

Relentless 04-19-2014 06:43 PM

I respect teen cat plenty. If I didn't I wouldn't post in the thread. He happens to be distracting people from the thing that matters by pointing them at a bug CCbill could have resolved in thirty seconds.

By the way be sure to contact your attorney to get a clearer understanding of what libel is, posting what you posted makes your intended posts libel because it shows that they are not your opinion, they are a predetermined attempt to defame another entity.

If you post 'I'm going to cost mcdonalds a fortune by posting I hate their burgers because I hate their new logo' your posts about their burgers are libelous even if you phrase them as an opinion. Seriously, libel is a nasty thing to get involved in, I'd suggest you not engage in it with me or anyone else.

Relentless 04-19-2014 06:47 PM

I do find it strange that your own sig says people should simply put you on ignore if they don't want to read your posts, while you seem to not apply that same thinking to the posts of others.

signupdamnit 04-19-2014 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20056099)
I respect teen cat plenty. If I didn't I wouldn't post in the thread. He happens to be distracting people from the thing that matters by pointing them at a bug CCbill could have resolved in thirty seconds.

By the way be sure to contact your attorney to get a clearer understanding of what libel is, posting what you posted makes your intended posts libel because it shows that they are not your opinion, they are a predetermined attempt to defame another entity.

If you post 'I'm going to cost mcdonalds a fortune by posting I hate their burgers because I hate their new logo' your posts about their burgers are libelous even if you phrase them as an opinion. Seriously, libel is a nasty thing to get involved in, I'd suggest you not engage in it with me or anyone else.

My opinion is that this thread and your actions within it make you out to be a paid shill not to mention a bit of an ass. I'll share my opinion with anyone I so choose.

Being an organization which tries to certify or rate other businesses just the fact that you threaten a lawsuit over negative opinions ought to be enough to give a consumer pause as to trusting your seal. But that is for them to decide.

Yeah I'm done talking about it here with you. If I take any other action I'll be taking it elsewhere instead. The topic isn't about you. It's Lucas' topic and it's about test joins and shaving. My apologies to Lucas.

Relentless 04-19-2014 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 20056105)
My opinion is that this thread and your actions within it make you out to be a paid shill not to mention a bit of an ass. I'll share my opinion with anyone I so choose. Being an organization which tries to certify or rate other businesses just the fact that you threaten a lawsuit over negative opinions ought to be enough to give a consumer pause as to trusting your seal. But that is for them to decide.

I'm not sure why you think a business involved with consumer trust would take libel less seriously than any other. I take the reputation of my brands very seriously and work diligently to protect them every day. My clients and the consumers who rely on the value of these seals appreciate those efforts. Your posts on this thread are a matter of public record. I'd recommend you do not engage in libel against my brands or anyone else. People who build brands care about them, invest in them and defend them vigorously.

I'm clearly not a shill. I've told you a dozen times to take your traffic to whoever pays the most. That's not something a shill would say. That's something a professional affiliate would say.

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Yeah I'm done talking about it here with you. If I take any other action I'll be taking it elsewhere instead. The topic isn't about you. It's Lucas' topic and it's about test joins and shaving. My apologies to Lucas.
If you don't want to read my posts, put me on ignore, just as your own sig asks others to ignore you. I don't ignore anyone.

The thread is not about me or about Lucas. It's about where a smart affiliate should send their traffic and why.

Penny24Seven 04-19-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20056082)
Yup, tons of super-successful people were posting 25 times a day for 12.50 in a contest thread back when the adult industry was booming a decade ago.

That doesn't answer the question... What do you do to pay the bills these days Matt26v?

Been in adult for 15 years and on here since 2002 and I have never made a penny in a contest thread. Back then it was never worth my time to post in them.
I may have posted when it would move my joins to 100% for the day which was huge.
I plan on doing business with you so add me to your list.
Thanks

Relentless 04-19-2014 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Brian837 (Post 20056111)
Been in adult for 15 years and on here since 2002 and I have never made a penny in a contest thread. Back then it was never worth my time to post in them. I may have posted when it would move my joins to 100% for the day which was huge. I plan on doing business with you so add me to your list. Thanks

I have no problem with anyone doing anything ethical to make a living. What I don't understand is why someone who makes a living by bumping contest threads would be arguing with me about $/click or trying to defame businesses. It doesn't make sense to me.

Contact me any time to discuss your upcoming projects

The Porn Nerd 04-19-2014 11:24 PM

Can't we all just get al -

No fuck it, we can't. Sorry.

Carry on.

Matt 26z 04-20-2014 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20056113)
What I don't understand is why someone who makes a living by bumping contest threads would be arguing with me about $/click or trying to defame businesses. It doesn't make sense to me.

1. I haven't posted to a contest thread in nearly a decade.
2. I haven't said a peep about your business.

What I don't understand is why you need to post 82 times to a thread trying to drill home your opinion in the same manner again and again. Take a debate class at your local community college if you get a kick out of this sort of thing because you suck at it.

If you've run out of ideas for the argument, then just throw your hands in the air and walk away from us idiots knowing you did all that you could do.

Jakez 04-24-2014 02:52 AM

As cliche as it sounds I wish we could hit "like" on certain posts so they gain some numerical value and hold some weight against the BS... for reading/knowledge purposes. The people that actually come here to gather info to prosper and not just to blow time and instigate. :2 cents:

NewNick 04-24-2014 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20056040)
'Bro' has no definition. Much like 'shaving' it has no meaning and gets tossed around when it is convenient but it doesn't serve any real purpose.

What you should know is I've now done business with three people who contacted me as a direct result of this thread, while you have sat and pointed out that you can't do better than the people you complain about. The people working professionally in this industry pay attention to those facts. The same way they pay attention to $ / click... because those facts actually matter and can be clearly defined. :2 cents:

Four people.

Nurgle 04-24-2014 06:56 AM

where are some real results, lol for someone doing test joins ure not finding many shavers... when in reality its not hard to find

iSpyCams 04-24-2014 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Nurgle (Post 20060991)
where are some real results, lol for someone doing test joins ure not finding many shavers... when in reality its not hard to find

I get the feeling Teencat is not trying to find shavers, he's trying to find honest reliable programs and seems to be mostly successful.

If he was trying to find cheaters he should go down a list of the highest PPS offers including Cams and Dating sites. He would likely find a lot more drama worthy stuff there and it wouldn't take long.

But he's not trying to find cheaters or make drama specifically, hes trying to find honest places to put his traffic, so with that in mind, no news is good news.

lucas131 04-24-2014 07:55 AM

i am so busy last week so nothing new atm, but sure more to come soon ... and yes, i am trying to test sponsors i push, sponsors that are actual and making promotions at the moment, so sorry that i am not testing known scammers, but that would be useless because most of those scammers are not building new sites anymore, just pushing traffic to old crap and trying to make tons of money, but thats not my point. new sponsors, new sites, bad ratio, thats what i am looking for and trying to find out if my traffic is problem, or the problem is at their side, in billing, or in content or who knows where :) if i see no problems, i am sleeping better as i know my traffic is going to safe harbour :) have a nice day and have luck with your business everyone! :thumbsup

mopek1 04-24-2014 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20061048)
i am so busy last week so nothing new atm, but sure more to come soon ... and yes, i am trying to test sponsors i push, sponsors that are actual and making promotions at the moment, so sorry that i am not testing known scammers, but that would be useless because most of those scammers are not building new sites anymore, just pushing traffic to old crap and trying to make tons of money, but thats not my point. new sponsors, new sites, bad ratio, thats what i am looking for and trying to find out if my traffic is problem, or the problem is at their side, in billing, or in content or who knows where :) if i see no problems, i am sleeping better as i know my traffic is going to safe harbour :) have a nice day and have luck with your business everyone! :thumbsup

Thanks! ...

bean-aid 04-24-2014 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 20060817)
As cliche as it sounds I wish we could hit "like" on certain posts so they gain some numerical value and hold some weight against the BS... for reading/knowledge purposes. The people that actually come here to gather info to prosper and not just to blow time and instigate. :2 cents:

That would be the worst idea ever... go to xbiz if you are looking for key board warriors with high *like* status. Total joke

Barefootsies 04-25-2014 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jakez (Post 20060817)
As cliche as it sounds I wish we could hit "like" on certain posts so they gain some numerical value and hold some weight against the BS... for reading/knowledge purposes. The people that actually come here to gather info to prosper and not just to blow time and instigate.

:thumbsup

bean-aid 04-25-2014 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 20061082)
That would be the worst idea ever... go to xbiz if you are looking for key board warriors with high *like* status. Total joke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 20063189)
:thumbsup

Exactly my point :warning

Ruseful 04-25-2014 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20061048)
i am so busy last week so nothing new atm, but sure more to come soon ... and yes, i am trying to test sponsors i push, sponsors that are actual and making promotions at the moment, so sorry that i am not testing known scammers, but that would be useless because most of those scammers are not building new sites anymore, just pushing traffic to old crap and trying to make tons of money, but thats not my point. new sponsors, new sites, bad ratio, thats what i am looking for and trying to find out if my traffic is problem, or the problem is at their side, in billing, or in content or who knows where :) if i see no problems, i am sleeping better as i know my traffic is going to safe harbour :) have a nice day and have luck with your business everyone! :thumbsup

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=20063280&posted=1#post20063280?
Heres a new case for you lucas131
Mr Peabody has apparently been intentionally over riding his affiliate id's for over 2 years.

bean-aid 04-25-2014 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruseful (Post 20063290)
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=20063280&posted=1#post20063280?
Heres a new case for you lucas131
Mr Peabody has apparently been intentionally over riding his affiliate id's for over 2 years.

What the fuck are you doing?

http://i.imgur.com/mKQ1CMI.jpg[/QUOTE]

fuck it all!!

bean-aid 04-25-2014 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruseful (Post 20063290)
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=20063280&posted=1#post20063280?
Heres a new case for you lucas131
Mr Peabody has apparently been intentionally over riding his affiliate id's for over 2 years.

I am so fucked up right now... I think you can likely figure it out though

bean-aid 04-25-2014 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruseful (Post 20063290)
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?p=20063280&posted=1#post20063280?
Heres a new case for you lucas131
Mr Peabody has apparently been intentionally over riding his affiliate id's for over 2 years.

what da fuck?

bean-aid 04-25-2014 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by beaner (Post 20063299)
What the fuck are you doing?

http://i.imgur.com/mKQ1CMI.jpg

fuck it all!![/QUOTE]

that's my fuck up

faxxaff 04-26-2014 01:47 AM

It's a great intention do run tests and share with our community! Thanks.

Test sign ups most likely reveal technical issues programs are ignorant about for their own benefits. However: Smart shavers won't cut into initial earnings. They will take it out on rebills and try to generate upsells from different accounts or sub-accounts. Some programs are assigning new sub-accounts after 5 or 10 rebills leaving affiliates without recurring pay.

Ruseful 04-26-2014 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by faxxaff (Post 20063357)
It's a great intention do run tests and share with our community! Thanks.

Test sign ups most likely reveal technical issues programs are ignorant about for their own benefits. However: Smart shavers won't cut into initial earnings. They will take it out on rebills and try to generate upsells from different accounts or sub-accounts. Some programs are assigning new sub-accounts after 5 or 10 rebills leaving affiliates without recurring pay.

I totally agree with you about test joins and I'm grateful that Teencat identified the issue with CCBill on my program, it's just the insinuations and libel in the thread that was written that is not so cool. But without Teencat doing the test join, and because if the small numbers that were involved, I don't know how long that piece of string would have been, so 100% test joins is a service program's need. I for one, would pay a 3rd party to do random test joins on all of my sites. If Teencat started such a company, I'd be his first customer.

3xmedia 04-26-2014 04:20 AM

great thread.

Relentless 04-26-2014 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 3xmedia (Post 20063427)
great thread.

More plot twists than a George RR Martin novel

wehateporn 05-15-2014 05:39 AM

Still happening? Very brave of you to do this Lucas

klinton 05-15-2014 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20087582)
Still happening? Very brave of you to do this Lucas

brave ? I would say it is normal, but requires some work and planning....

wehateporn 05-15-2014 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by klinton (Post 20087594)
brave ? I would say it is normal, but requires some work and planning....

Brave because he will make powerful enemies :2 cents:

Relentless 05-15-2014 07:27 AM

He won't make any enemies at all if he posts real results (rather than guesses or suspenseful "guess who might be shaving" comments). On the other hand, he would make more friends if he posted "This is how much each sponsor paid me per click in the last 30 days"

Relentless 05-15-2014 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pompousjohn (Post 20060997)
If he was trying to find cheaters he should go down a list of the highest PPS offers including Cams and Dating sites. He would likely find a lot more drama worthy stuff there and it wouldn't take long.

QFT. If you can't figure out how a program can afford to pay you the $888 per join they offer, that should tell you something....

oppoten 05-15-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by wehateporn (Post 20087601)
Brave because he will make powerful enemies :2 cents:

It appears he might have done exactly that. Foolish is the word I'd use.

Colmike9 05-15-2014 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20087706)
QFT. If you can't figure out how a program can afford to pay you the $888 per join they offer, that should tell you something....

Which program pays $200+PPS without TOS BS to get around paying anyone?
Closest thing that I've seen are from legit programs like Playboy with a $100PPS Friday bonus or something like that, and only if you email a rep about your sales and the promo to get the bonus PPS..

Spam me with high PPS please, and does Pussycash really pay out the high PPS that they claim to?..

Relentless 05-15-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20087900)
Which program pays $200+PPS without TOS BS to get around paying anyone? Closest thing that I've seen are from legit programs like Playboy with a $100PPS Friday bonus or something like that, and only if you email a rep about your sales and the promo to get the bonus PPS.. Spam me with high PPS please, and does Pussycash really pay out the high PPS that they claim to?..


Now people are asking questions that actually matter... only took a dozen pages... :2 cents:

Nice_Nick 05-15-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Relentless (Post 20088093)
Now people are asking questions that actually matter... only took a dozen pages... :2 cents:

Are you still sticking your oar in this thread..

Relentless 05-15-2014 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nice_Nick (Post 20088100)
Are you still sticking your oar in this thread..

Only when it interests me... like any other thread.
Thanks very much for inquiring. I see you are here in the thread as well.
Should we discuss our posting decisions? :pimp

oppoten 05-15-2014 12:40 PM

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/43398126.jpg

mineistaken 06-25-2014 09:34 AM

Hey, teencat, any updates? I hope you did not let couple thread derail jockeys ruin your project?

lucas131 06-25-2014 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20136558)
Hey, teencat, any updates? I hope you did not let couple thread derail jockeys ruin your project?

hm right, i have also some reports for sponsors ready, just have other more important things to do, but once there will be reason or i will be bored, updates to come ... :winkwink:

Relentless 06-25-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20136597)
hm right, i have also some reports for sponsors ready, just have other more important things to do, but once there will be reason or i will be bored, updates to come

just have other more important things to do

You are sooo close to understanding :thumbsup

12clicks 06-25-2014 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lucas131 (Post 20136597)
hm right, i have also some reports for sponsors ready, just have other more important things to do,

like trolling?:1orglaugh
fucking loser, imagining you're anything other than dog shit on this industry's shoe.


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