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just a punk 03-11-2014 01:16 AM

Ukrainian news:

http://img15.nnm.me/e/0/a/e/9/59fedc...ebb89446da.jpg

Is written there: "Russia has declared a war to Ukraine" and "the US army is ready to help us" :winkwink:

Emma 03-11-2014 03:15 AM

http://02varvara.files.wordpress.com...g?w=1200&h=880

?I am still alive and I am still the legitimate president,? Yanukovich said Tuesday in a statement to the media in the southern Russian city of Rostov-on-Don.

He criticized Washington for its decision to provide a $1 billion loan to the new authorities in Kiev, saying that US law forbids financial support for any government that came to power in a military coup, ousting a legitimately elected head of state. Yanokovich said he would appeal to American legislators to assess the perceived violation.

dehash 03-11-2014 06:06 AM

There are a lot of movements on both sides. I have a guy on ICQ from Ukraine - he said never seen so much troops and tanks before. And they keep coming.

Emma 03-11-2014 07:22 AM

Crimea parliament voted for the declaration of independence, ahead of a secession referendum.
 
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BicHwbNIQAAv49q.jpg

On English: We, the members of the parliament of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and the Sevastopol City Council, with regard to the charter of the United Nations and a whole range of other international documents and taking into consideration the confirmation of the status of Kosovo by the United Nations International Court of Justice on July, 22, 2010, which says that unilateral declaration of independence by a part of the country doesn?t violate any international norms, make this decision.

The Crimean parliament?s vote to become an independent sovereign state paves the way for the March 16 referendum for the Crimean Autonomous Republic and the city of Sevastopol to join Russia.

CAHEK 03-11-2014 04:43 PM



:Oh crap

Hitting up on old veteran people :321GFY

pornmasta 03-11-2014 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CAHEK (Post 20010788)

:1orglaugh

Emma 03-13-2014 02:15 AM

http://cdn.ruvr.ru/2014/03/13/150344...rotestsusa.jpg

US protesters rally against 'neo-Nazi coup' in Ukraine outside White House

Emma 03-14-2014 01:25 AM

Moscow's ambassador to the United Nations told an emergency meeting of the Security Council on Thursday that Russia does not want to go to war over the Ukraine crisis. "Russia does not want war and nor do the Russians," Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told the Council following an address by visiting Ukrainian interim Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia was not to blame for the crisis over Ukraine's Crimea region.

Crimea is to hold a referendum on Sunday on joining Russia, but Ukraine and Western leaders strongly oppose submitting the question to the people's will and claim the planned referendum is illegal.

Eddiestryker 03-14-2014 01:36 AM

I say Putin & Yanukovych should just have a duel to the death.
George Orwell once wrote that, "It's not a matter of whether the war is not real, or if it is, Victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia but to keep the very structure of society intact."

dehash 03-14-2014 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eddiestryker (Post 20014834)
I say Putin & Yanukovych should just have a duel to the death.
George Orwell once wrote that, "It's not a matter of whether the war is not real, or if it is, Victory is not possible. The war is not meant to be won, it is meant to be continuous. Hierarchical society is only possible on the basis of poverty and ignorance. This new version is the past and no different past can ever have existed. In principle the war effort is always planned to keep society on the brink of starvation. The war is waged by the ruling group against its own subjects and its object is not the victory over either Eurasia or East Asia but to keep the very structure of society intact."

Why "Putin & Yanukovych"?

12clicks 03-14-2014 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20002391)
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhqM1U2IIAAbOVP.png:large

Putin sent troops in Crimea to protect their interests and the Russian speaking population.

Facts you need to know about Crimea

under this logic, Texas better prepare to be "protected" by mexican troops.:1orglaugh

CDSmith 03-14-2014 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20014831)
Moscow's ambassador to the United Nations told an emergency meeting of the Security Council on Thursday that Russia does not want to go to war over the Ukraine crisis. "Russia does not want war and nor do the Russians," Ambassador Vitaly Churkin told the Council following an address by visiting Ukrainian interim Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk.

President Vladimir Putin said on Thursday that Russia was not to blame for the crisis over Ukraine's Crimea region.

Crimea is to hold a referendum on Sunday on joining Russia, but Ukraine and Western leaders strongly oppose submitting the question to the people's will and claim the planned referendum is illegal.


http://members.shaw.ca/graphx/pics/iraqiguy.jpg


I'm getting a real deja-vu here for some reason.

dehash 03-14-2014 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20014981)
under this logic, Texas better prepare to be "protected" by mexican troops.:1orglaugh

Imagine parallel universe - USA lost in cold war and fall apart. The USA (leftovers) got weak and somehow TX went back to Mexica (also few other states became independent).

Then, 20 years later, while there were riots in Mexica, president escaped the country, some radical Mexicans decided: "Lets' kill english speaking population(Americans, who decided to stay in TX under Mexica for some reason)!"
The USA who gained some muscles during this 20 years decided it is good chance to get TX back. Mexica has huge debt (big part of this debt to USA). Russia and Europe offers loan to Mexica(but amount of loan is so small - all this loan money will go to the USA to cover what Mexica owe).
The USA sent Black Waters and other corporate armies to protect TX population from radicals. Of course they are not Black Waters (I just use this name as example of private army, belongs to corporation) and USA deny the sent any troops. US government keep saying it is TX Guard, not the USA Army.

I see this situation like that.

Emma 03-15-2014 02:26 AM

Contacts between Kerry, Lavrov regarding situation in Ukraine will continue in coming days
 
http://rt.com/files/news/23/9e/20/00/14.jpg

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Friday that Crimea "means immeasurably more" to Russia than the Comoro Islands mean to France or the Falklands do to Britain.

MrDeiz 03-15-2014 03:30 AM

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135952

https://pp.vk.me/c606517/v606517663/...Dwnx9W7dWk.jpg

http://demotivators.org.ua/d/demotiv...a-712567-3.jpg

MrDeiz 03-15-2014 04:01 AM

gfy ruskies aren't supported by russian people!!!
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1135953 :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

BettingHandle 03-15-2014 07:48 AM

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pornmasta 03-15-2014 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20014997)
http://members.shaw.ca/graphx/pics/iraqiguy.jpg


I'm getting a real deja-vu here for some reason.

weapons in motion

Sid70 03-15-2014 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20013617)
http://cdn.ruvr.ru/2014/03/13/150344...rotestsusa.jpg

US protesters rally against 'neo-Nazi coup' in Ukraine outside White House

http://media.theiapolis.com/b000000/...cdn=1394928930

Emma 03-16-2014 03:15 PM

About 95% of Crimeans in referendum voted to join Russia - preliminary results
 
http://cdn.rt.com/files/news/23/b2/2...russia-.si.jpg

People celebrate as they wait for the announcement of preliminary results of today's referendum on Lenin Square in the Crimean capital of Simferopol

CAHEK 03-16-2014 03:31 PM

http://cs540109.vk.me/c540104/v54010...8E86KYUDfk.jpg

LA Crew 03-17-2014 01:59 AM

http://www.freakingnews.com/pictures...tin--90047.jpg

Putin told Obama that referendum in Crimea fully complies with international law.

Emma 03-17-2014 09:49 AM

http://globaldiscussion.net/uploads/...1394189922.jpg

The Western world is literally going hysterical in their attempts to deny the Crimean population its free demonstration of will to return the region to its historic motherland ?Russia. However, not too long ago Washington and the European capitals adamantly supported Kosovo's will to separate from Serbia despite the fact that there were significantly fewer reasons for that.

Read more

dehash 03-17-2014 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20018408)
http://globaldiscussion.net/uploads/...1394189922.jpg

The Western world is literally going hysterical in their attempts to deny the Crimean population its free demonstration of will to return the region to its historic motherland ?Russia. However, not too long ago Washington and the European capitals adamantly supported Kosovo's will to separate from Serbia despite the fact that there were significantly fewer reasons for that.

Read more

And USA should go back under GB and Quin.

just a punk 03-17-2014 10:56 AM

Meanwhile in "occupied" Crimea:






femdomdestiny 03-17-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20018408)
http://globaldiscussion.net/uploads/...1394189922.jpg

The Western world is literally going hysterical in their attempts to deny the Crimean population its free demonstration of will to return the region to its historic motherland ?Russia. However, not too long ago Washington and the European capitals adamantly supported Kosovo's will to separate from Serbia despite the fact that there were significantly fewer reasons for that.

Read more

Most people simply don't know or remember what happened in Kosovo. Until 1998, there was KLA, categorized as terrorist organization even for USA, but at some point they became freedom fighters (same shit as mujahedins and al Qaeda in Syria) that was killing police and citizens (not only Serbs but loyal Albanians, too) and Racak incident was staged to use as excuse for war against Serbia.

What is interesting is that at first, there was so called Rambouillet "Agreement" that was actually document put in front of Serbs that give country to NATO (classic occupation where foreign military wont pay for use of land or frequencies, or will be under state law and will have freedom to do whatever want on Serbian soil) . That was not agreement but ultimatum that Serbs couldn't accept even if they need to go to war with so much stronger NATO army. (The Rambouillet text, which called on Serbia to admit NATO troops throughout Yugoslavia, was a provocation, an excuse to start bombing. Rambouillet is not a document that an angelic Serb could have accepted. It was a terrible diplomatic document that should never have been presented in that form.[4]
?Henry Kissinger, Daily Telegraph, 28 June 1999 )


So thousands of soldiers were killed all over country and even bigger number of civilians as retaliation for military succeeded to maintain border and wasn't defeated after months of bombing and attempts to invade country from Albania (yes there was open ground invasion from there.

In short, blod, horror,devastation of complete country and ethnic cleaning of all non albanian citizens was ok for west. Compare that shit to Crimea and situation there where no single bullet was fired.

2 days ago, was 10 year anniversary of last big ethnic cleaning in Kosovo. All those Serbs (and other non albanians) that left and were not cleaned during NATO war, were now finally expelled and houses and churches burned. Guess what..in the middle of the europe,with EU /NATO tropps on ground that should protect people. What a joke...



After things like this,only idiot and complete fool will have and trust in what EU/WEST sign or say. Just like they signed agreement with Yanukovich last month,and without any problem, ignored it few days ago stopped mentioning it.

When we take all this in consideration,it would be real miracle that it will stop on Crimea.

12clicks 03-17-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehash (Post 20015095)
Imagine parallel universe - USA lost in cold war and fall apart. The USA (leftovers) got weak and somehow TX went back to Mexica (also few other states became independent).

Then, 20 years later, while there were riots in Mexica, president escaped the country, some radical Mexicans decided: "Lets' kill english speaking population(Americans, who decided to stay in TX under Mexica for some reason)!"
The USA who gained some muscles during this 20 years decided it is good chance to get TX back. Mexica has huge debt (big part of this debt to USA). Russia and Europe offers loan to Mexica(but amount of loan is so small - all this loan money will go to the USA to cover what Mexica owe).
The USA sent Black Waters and other corporate armies to protect TX population from radicals. Of course they are not Black Waters (I just use this name as example of private army, belongs to corporation) and USA deny the sent any troops. US government keep saying it is TX Guard, not the USA Army.

I see this situation like that.

except no russians are being killed by radicals.

WDF 03-17-2014 11:15 AM

Please post more propaganda!

dehash 03-17-2014 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20018533)
except no russians are being killed by radicals.

Sure, because there were some friendly guys with weapons and armor.

Threat is threat. Even if there were no threat it was worth of making it up. But luckily for Russians Ukrain for real has nazzy dumb heads.
I don't know how come US government knows that all Baltic countries and Ukrain let former SS solders to do parades. I believe even in Germany this crap forbidden.

just a punk 03-17-2014 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dehash (Post 20018619)
I don't know how come US government knows that all Baltic countries and Ukrain let former SS solders to do parades. I believe even in Germany this crap forbidden.

Yes, it is really forbidden in Germany but the States don't give a shit. They have their own Nazi parades absolutely legally :2 cents:

http://progressivepopulist.org/wp-co...-party-kkk.jpg

http://clatl.com/images/blogimages/2...k_rally009.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/...n_1508892c.jpg

http://a.abcnews.com/images/TheLaw/ht_kkk_070726_ms.jpg

http://kkk.org/wp-content/uploads/20...n_children.jpg

Hint: these pics are NOT from 60s :2 cents:

dehash 03-17-2014 12:23 PM

Buy the way Crimean people voted ~95% "yes" to join to Russia. So, next month Miami will join Cuba lol

Emma 03-17-2014 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20018517)
Most people simply don't know or remember what happened in Kosovo. Until 1998, there was KLA, categorized as terrorist organization even for USA, but at some point they became freedom fighters (same shit as mujahedins and al Qaeda in Syria) that was killing police and citizens (not only Serbs but loyal Albanians, too) and Racak incident was staged to use as excuse for war against Serbia.



The truth about Kosovo.

CarlosTheGaucho 03-17-2014 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emma (Post 20018673)


The truth about Kosovo.

Interesting to see anything "contraversial" coming from the local TV. Will check it out - thanks for sharing.

CarlosTheGaucho 03-18-2014 03:46 PM

Watched the documentary last night - pretty sad. One can totally understand why Tito always kept Kosovo autonomous - probably the only way to co-exist with a nation that can't do pretty much anything else than cause trouble.

Sid70 03-19-2014 12:26 AM

Made up Russian crap.

Emma 03-19-2014 02:11 AM

Experts of the US National Geographic Society say they will mark Crimea as part of Russia. The chief geographer of the National Geographic Society, Juan Valdes, has said that once the Russian Parliament ratifies the treaty on accepting Crimea into the Russian Federation, the Crimean Republic will officially become Russian territory, according to the Bloomberg news agency.

femdomdestiny 03-19-2014 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 20019992)
Watched the documentary last night - pretty sad. One can totally understand why Tito always kept Kosovo autonomous - probably the only way to co-exist with a nation that can't do pretty much anything else than cause trouble.


not exactly. Tito's fault was that he gave them special treatement (constitution from 1974 that Serbia opposed). Only Serbia (from all yugoslav republics) was divided and two autonomous provinces were created (Kosovo and Vojvodina). That was done under Tito's rule and he was a Croat that never liked Serbs. He was fighting against Serbs and Russians back in WW1. (paste from wikipedia: In January 1915, he was sent to the Eastern Front in Galicia to fight against Russia. He distinguished himself as a capable soldier, becoming the youngest Sergeant Major in the Austro-Hungarian Army.[19] For his bravery in the face of the enemy, he was recommended for the Silver Bravery Medal but was taken prisoner of war before it could be formally presented.")

What Tito did on Kosovo is that he let mass migration of Albanians in deal with Communist Albanian Leader Enver Hodza , and that way he changed demographics there.

It is true, muslim fanatics and uneducated population can only make problems. For example, there were never problems with other ethnic minorites like Hungarians in Vojvodina. All of them have same rights which means language,schools, church, tv,radio,newspappers,etc. but Albanians even denied to have own university that Milosevic was giving to them. Their only goal was to take land and have own country.

All ex yugoslav republics were sending money to Kosovo to somehow make them civilized, but it never worked. At the end, West and NATO armed them and supported them and now we have shithole in the middle of europe, with smugglers,killers, drug traficking and organ harvesting gangs....of course, supported by nearby US army base and european frioends, same those that are helping Nazis in Ukraine.

dehash 03-19-2014 04:59 AM

femdomdestiny thank you for your point of view.

femdomdestiny 03-19-2014 05:02 AM

you are welcome. Usually, things are much more complicated then medias are trying to present.

Emma 03-20-2014 08:46 AM

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/upload...05.08%20PM.png

While the rest of the Western world refuses to accept Russia?s annexation by force of Ukraine?s Crimean peninsula, National Geographic was quick to recognize the territorial takeover.


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