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DumpManager 03-19-2014 09:45 AM
I've been working from home for 1.5 years now, I love it.

Some of the perks include afternoon nap time, and 3 hour long video game breaks, nonstop coffee and also no boss.

It does have disadvantages too though. I find I am getting a bit lazy. Without a boss, I have to think for myself which kinda sucks. Hehe

I am actually doing a 3 month contract in a "normal job" for a bit of extra cash, but also to get me back into a good working mode. Too many video game breaks and nap times and I need to get back into the groove.

It can be lonely, but with twitter, skype, and podcasts I feel like I am surrounded by people all day, even though it's just me here.

Rochard 03-19-2014 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 20020286)

Back Yard- Screened heated pool with waterfall & Jacuzzi. Tropical foliage for privacy
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Why do people in Florida screen in their pools? They seem to be the only ones in the country that do this.

I've never understood this.

mineistaken 03-19-2014 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Herb Kornfield (Post 20020529)
100% Home office since 2007.

I have a dedicated office in the house just for my business. My wife and kids understand that once the door is closed I am "at work" ... My productivity has been FAR better at the home office where I can think, plot and be free from the mindless office banter that just kills a few hours in a day.

My team has set times that we have conference calls to talk biz. We are very organized with our agenda and action plans.... This alone has saved a ton of the impromptu calls that also kill your "primetime" as I call the working hours.

Moving to home offices has made my team FAR happier. They can at times get the personal things done ( car to the shop for an oil change, pickup kids, have a decent lunch, etc ) and also perform at a much higher rate than when we were all in the office.

Once a month: We all meet up for lunch and talk live. At this point: Its good to see each other in person. This gives some human interaction outside my wife and son ... plus I also hang out with my friends every so often ( which is not all that much as were all married with kids now ) ... mostly I enjoy just being with my family at home.

My advice to be as productive as possible from home: Make your work space just that - your WORK space. Set time limits to be there .. In my case: From 730am to 6pm I am in my office and post 6pm I roll downstairs to see my family, have dinner and lounge about in my living room/outside if its nice out. The most I have at night near me is an iPad for non-work surfing and my phone....
This is respectable and good that it works out for you. However most of the people are not that disciplined and they take breaks, do some home stuff etc. And productivity goes down.

mineistaken 03-19-2014 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20020829)
Why do people in Florida screen in their pools? They seem to be the only ones in the country that do this.

I've never understood this.
I was wondering the same. Instead of utilizing great weather and having outside pool they choose to have inside pool with lots of windows.

mineistaken 03-19-2014 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 20020726)
Anyone looked into coworking? I tried it for a few months in London last summer to force myself to meet new people in a new city... The commute and interruption of my morning routine sucked though, I quit going after a couple of weeks. I get a lot of shit done rolling out of bed and hitting the computer with my morning coffee.
Too many distractions, I can not imagine working in open space with everybody else around me like that... For me it must be closed office cabinet.

Barefootsies 03-19-2014 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20020829)
Why do people in Florida screen in their pools? They seem to be the only ones in the country that do this.

I've never understood this.
Gators?

:helpme

Tom_PM 03-19-2014 11:33 AM
I'm pretty sure it's because of mosquitoes.

I use a home office and it works out fine. Nothing else happens in this room other than working on the computer. Also work from my laptop after "work hours" if needed.

Rochard 03-19-2014 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom_PM (Post 20020927)
I'm pretty sure it's because of mosquitoes.
I'm pretty sure that's it, but I still don't get it... We had mosquitoes in NJ where I grew up and didn't put up screens, and we have mosquitoes in Phoenix and California and don't do it there either.

Jim_Gunn 03-19-2014 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20020829)
Why do people in Florida screen in their pools? They seem to be the only ones in the country that do this.

I've never understood this.
Growing up in suburban NY state as a teenager we didn't have a screen over our pool either. It does help keep mosquitoes out which is a major convenience. But also look at the amount of trees and other decorative privacy foliage around my pool. It would be a right mess every day full of leaves, flowers and other plant matter that would require regular skimming if the screen wasn't there.

VikingMan 03-19-2014 12:30 PM
gators are cool they leave people alone, it is the banana spiders and other creepy crawlies and flying bugs you want to keep out of your mixed drinks while hot tubbing.

Mickey_ 03-19-2014 12:32 PM
Both, but most of the work takes place at the office.

To quote a famous scene from the Devil's Advocate:

- Is there more to it?
- Just this room.
- And a bedroom?
- No bedroom.
- Where does he sleep?
- Who said he sleeps?
- Where does he fuck?
- Everywhere!

Apply the last line to the question "where does he work?" and you have your answer. :pimp

And for anyone wondering, yes, there are plenty of toilets in the office. (see last pic) :1orglaugh

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TheSquealer 03-19-2014 12:35 PM
Who could have predicted that an industry full of anti social personalities, major ADD suffers and losers all are largely unanimous in the notion that working in their own place, at the time of their choosing, without structure, without supervision or real accountability is a really great plan for better productivity?

Frankly, i'm shocked.

mineistaken 03-19-2014 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mickey_ (Post 20021014)
I think this pic is from Sochi.

mineistaken 03-19-2014 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20021018)
Who could have predicted that an industry full of anti social personalities, major ADD suffers and losers all are largely unanimous in the notion that working in their own place, at the time of their choosing, without structure, without supervision or real accountability is a really great plan for better productivity?

Frankly, i'm shocked.
Again what are we talking about?
I assume we are talking about doing the same thing either at home or in office. Meaning "time of choosing", "supervision", "structure" would be the same in both cases.

We are not speaking about being self employed VS working for another company.

Ate123 03-19-2014 12:41 PM
Work from home... from many years...
Jail... 24h at work

Scott McD 03-19-2014 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by VikingMan (Post 20021009)
gators are cool they leave people alone, it is the banana spiders and other creepy crawlies and flying bugs you want to keep out of your mixed drinks while hot tubbing.
I had to Google 'Banana Spider' after you wrote that.

http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/114330/banana_spider.jpg


And now i wish i didn't... :helpme

JFK 03-19-2014 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20021022)
I think this pic is from Sochi.
Naw, it was take to make sure Paul approved the office set up :Graucho

12clicks 03-19-2014 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 20020553)
Tell that to Michael Bloomberg

http://www.virgin.com/richard-branso...ng-of-the-past


:upsidedow

Tom_PM 03-19-2014 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20021018)
Who could have predicted that an industry full of anti social personalities, major ADD suffers and losers all are largely unanimous in the notion that working in their own place, at the time of their choosing, without structure, without supervision or real accountability is a really great plan for better productivity?

Frankly, i'm shocked.
Home office != no schedule. I'm really strict about it and usually wake a few minutes before the alarm due to being a well trained monkey. Plenty of daily accountability and what not. But anti social, sufferer and loser? Close enough.

2MuchMark 03-19-2014 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20019770)
I get up in the morning and take my girl to work 2 miles away, stop somewhere and get a healthy breakfast and a cup of coffee and go home and work. When I pick her up, we usually go visit friend, stop at a local watering hole or just get out. I enjoy this step up a lot!
:thumbsup:thumbsup

TheSquealer 03-19-2014 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20021029)
Again what are we talking about?
I assume we are talking about doing the same thing either at home or in office. Meaning "time of choosing", "supervision", "structure" would be the same in both cases.

We are not speaking about being self employed VS working for another company.
Most people working at home are working at home because they don't have a choice. No serious company that performs and grows consistently, which has a strong vision for the future and is constantly building and developing and launching, allows anyone that matters to work from home. There might be rare exceptions but it is far from the rule.

And working at home and from an office is not comparable in any way, shape or form.

slapass 03-19-2014 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 20020044)
If you want to run a business, you have an office.
If your biggest aspirations are to work in your pajamas, work from home
Probably just your age showing. :winkwink:

mineistaken 03-19-2014 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JFK (Post 20021056)
Naw, it was take to make sure Paul approved the office set up :Graucho
So what is that thing on the right? Feet washer? :winkwink:

mineistaken 03-19-2014 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20021120)
Most people working at home are working at home because they don't have a choice. No serious company that performs and grows consistently, which has a strong vision for the future and is constantly building and developing and launching, allows anyone that matters to work from home. There might be rare exceptions but it is far from the rule.
Ok you are still not getting the point...

Everybody who works at home have 2 options:
a) work from home
b) rent office space in office building (reasons for that - better productivity, better life at home quality when home is just for relaxing and so on) and do the same thing there. That also gives you better options for meeting clients (if you need to) and so on and so on.

We are discussing about doing the SAME thing at home VS doing the same thing at rented office.


Not self employment VS working under a boss...

Mickey_ 03-19-2014 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20021124)
So what is that thing on the right? Feet washer? :winkwink:
It's a bidet, it's for washing like you said, but not for your feet. :winkwink:

Regarding the Sochi comment, the main difference is that these actually function as intended. :D

Robbie 03-19-2014 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20021130)
Ok you are still not getting the point...
I have "The Squealer" on "ignore". But reading what you quoted him saying made me laugh.

There is no "one size fits all" for a business.

I would say that "yes", if you have 4 or 5 employees working for you, it's best to have an office.

"No", if you are working by yourself.

We used to have employees. Had an office. It was great.

Now, I do everything myself. I have a very, very nice office set up right here in my backyard by the pool and jacuzzi.

As for "The Squealer", I'd love to know what it is he does in this business and maybe some pics of himself with his employees at HIS office.

Bill Gates worked out of his garage when he started Microsoft.
And when he got bigger and NEEDED employees. He got an office.

I'm pretty damn successful, and I don't see the need to spend a few grand a month on an office space for no reason when I have this giant building in my backyard by the pool about a hundred steps from my house.

Folks like "The Squealer" need to realize this ain't 1960 anymore.
You can make millions of dollars from any location with the internet.
And if you are a "one man show" like I am...I'm way over-doing it with my office by my pool now.

TheSquealer 03-19-2014 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20021130)
Ok you are still not getting the point...

Everybody who works at home have 2 options:
a) work from home
b) rent office space in office building (reasons for that - better productivity, better life at home quality when home is just for relaxing and so on) and do the same thing there. That also gives you better options for meeting clients (if you need to) and so on and so on.

We are discussing about doing the SAME thing at home VS doing the same thing at rented office.


Not self employment VS working under a boss...
Most of the people replying have no option to rent office space. They are employees. As someone who used to have over 300 employees in a performance driven company, there is absolutely no substitution for having an office, leading, managing, keeping everyone focused, keeping everyone driven and on task, for infinitely better communication etc etc etc. No one that is important or even relevant to the susccess of a serious company is allowed to work from home.

There is a reason for that. ;)

Its about productivity.

Jim_Gunn 03-19-2014 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20021241)
Most of the people replying have no option to rent office space. They are employees. As someone who used to have over 300 employees in a performance driven company, there is absolutely no substitution for having an office, leading, managing, keeping everyone focused, keeping everyone driven and on task, for infinitely better communication etc etc etc. No one that is important or even relevant to the susccess of a serious company is allowed to work from home.

There is a reason for that. ;)

Its about productivity.
Just glancing over the names, sigs and based on the way they responded plus my recollection of meeting some of them personally, it actually seems like most of people posting in this thread work for themselves and can do whatever they want. Some of the others seem to be independent contractors or remote employees of medium sized companies that also have options for telecommuting.

I totally get that a large company with 300 employees would need at least one central office and people on site interacting dynamically. But that kind of business structure doesn't describe more than a small fraction of the people posting in this thread.

Nice_Nick 03-19-2014 04:00 PM
I have worked from an office an worked from home.

I currently wok from home and hate it. Fucking family life gets in the way, people call round when the fuck they feel like it and I can't get nothing done.
It's been like this for ages.

I used to work from an office. Go in when I liked, leave when I liked, toss off when I liked. I don't know why I thought home would be preferable.

For the few hundred bucks a month it costs for an office I would suggest taking that route providing you are comminted to your business.

MasterBlow 03-19-2014 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by michael.kickass (Post 20019924)
10 hours at office, 10 hours at home :upsidedow
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mineistaken 03-19-2014 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Nice_Nick (Post 20021271)
I have worked from an office an worked from home.

I currently wok from home and hate it. Fucking family life gets in the way, people call round when the fuck they feel like it and I can't get nothing done.
It's been like this for ages.

I used to work from an office. Go in when I liked, leave when I liked, toss off when I liked. I don't know why I thought home would be preferable.

For the few hundred bucks a month it costs for an office I would suggest taking that route providing you are comminted to your business.
Same thing is for most, working from home decrease productivity and thus earnings.
Of course some people do not have this issue as we can see from some replies. Takes very tough discipline to do that and many people can't.
I have many friends who are webmasters, designers, affiliates and who work on their own. And every one of them increased their earnings when they decided to work from rebted office space.

Simple example. Let's say you earn $4000 from home. Even if you increase your productivity by 15% that extra $600 easily covers office rent and you are still in the "profit".
And on top of that you have your home only as relaxation space, that adds to the well being of a person as well.

Robbie 03-19-2014 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mineistaken (Post 20021297)
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Simple example. Let's say you earn $4000 from home. Even if you increase your productivity by 15% that extra $600 easily covers office rent and you are still in the "profit".
You're way off.

First of all...finding a nice office space for $600 a month? Maybe in the backwoods somewhere.

Second...then you have to have electricity and water service for your office.

Then you have to pay AGAIN (because you should already have the fastest, most expensive ISP hooked up to your home connection) for internet service.
That's money being wasted on redundancy.

I get what you're saying that most folks just aren't disciplined to go to "work". (though for people like me...I can't WAIT to go to work everyday, I love it)

But to say it's only gonna be around $600 a month just isn't so.

Also when you first move in to that office...you're going to have to spend days just getting it all set up right.

I don't think that most self-employed succesful people who do not have a bunch of employees really have any trouble with self-discipline and getting things done.
Most of them are work-a-holic A-type personalities.

Employees on the other hand...they absolutely need that.

12clicks 03-19-2014 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20021121)
Probably just your age showing. :winkwink:
Could be but my office has a 48" TV, a fully stocked bar, and a seriously comfortable couch.
Do young people enjoy that shit?

Robbie 03-19-2014 04:48 PM
Also I forgot to add one thing:

When you have an office, you are now visible to the authorities in your town.
All it takes is a little bit of word of mouth before the nature or your business becomes known to the wrong religious nutcase housewife.

And THEN you find yourself with a whole new headache.

mineistaken 03-19-2014 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20021305)
You're way off.

First of all...finding a nice office space for $600 a month? Maybe in the backwoods somewhere.

Second...then you have to have electricity and water service for your office.

Then you have to pay AGAIN (because you should already have the fastest, most expensive ISP hooked up to your home connection) for internet service.
That's money being wasted on redundancy.

I get what you're saying that most folks just aren't disciplined to go to "work". (though for people like me...I can't WAIT to go to work everyday, I love it)

But to say it's only gonna be around $600 a month just isn't so.

Also when you first move in to that office...you're going to have to spend days just getting it all set up right.

I don't think that most self-employed succesful people who do not have a bunch of employees really have any trouble with self-discipline and getting things done.
Most of them are work-a-holic A-type personalities.

Employees on the other hand...they absolutely need that.
Actually I was not even saying that whole $600 would go towards rent, $300/month included utilities would be enough for most of the world including many US towns.
I am talking about one man operations (webmaster, designer, affiliate etc) where you would need 10-12 square meter office cabinet. I am not talking about "something nice", I only imagine what do you have in mind there. :1orglaugh
BUT - these numbers were just random, to show a point that extra income would cover office rent. So let's not get into the numbers as they were just to illustrate the point and were actually random.

As for "not having trouble with discipline", trust me, ABSOLUTE MAJORITY of them do. At the very least 80%, in reality 90%+.
Everybody I know who moved to office immediately started being way more productive and 15% extra is just very small number, many of them did twice as much as they used to do from home.

Trend 03-19-2014 04:56 PM
If you are:

1. In the USA & outside Cali & maybe NV
2. Have kids under 16
3. Work from home

You're nuts.

All it takes is for one neighbor, ex-wife, school teacher etc to contact DSS and you are in for a world of hurt.

BlackCrayon 03-19-2014 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20021120)
Most people working at home are working at home because they don't have a choice. No serious company that performs and grows consistently, which has a strong vision for the future and is constantly building and developing and launching, allows anyone that matters to work from home. There might be rare exceptions but it is far from the rule.

And working at home and from an office is not comparable in any way, shape or form.
perhaps but working from home is the future if we want to reduce pollution due to horrible commutes and such. regardless if you are a one man show, there isn't much difference between working from home and working from an office unless you have kids or something at home during the day.

Nice_Nick 03-19-2014 05:13 PM
I disgree. I think you need to change your mindset.

When I worked in an office I used to get dressed for 'work' despite me being the only person there.
I used to wear my best shoes, my shirt and proper trousers.

After I started working from home I quickly started to start work later, get dressed slower. Wear slacker clothes and finish earlier.

VSKevin 03-19-2014 05:52 PM
Workin' from the office! I doubt I'd get much done at home. I'd send an e-mail and get distracted by YouTube or something.

Frank 03-19-2014 05:57 PM
If you work from home, you will be the first to get a phone call from family or a friend to help with a favor because your "available" . lol


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