- First, it is not an elected government
- No lives of '' your'' citizens were threatened, till the ruthless repression of the coup forces
- Plan B is managed by John Brennan , CIA director

Let those people have referendums and choose their own destiny.


BTW, what is the difference in the terms :
- insurgents
- terrorists
- rebels
- freedom fighters

???

Oh...so if we see now same window with Al Quaeda that is fine, right? Precisely that is what people don't wont and that is : nazi supporters or those that are able to find excuse for what happened in WW2.

http://www.nationalism.org/rnsp/salute.GIF
Russian National Socialist Party

You can find idiots in every country. There are nazi idiots in France, Denmark and Germany and pretty much everywhere.

yes, but when they come to power by force, then you have a problem.
Also, population is huge, more then 10% in a country that have 45 millions citizens

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Where do you read that I support Al Quaeda or any Nazi ideas?

Just trying to explain to the brainless people in here that Nationalism is not same as Nazism.

As I stated before don´t give a dam shit if he was nationalist or nazist just tried to explain that being a nationalist doesn't mean he was a nazist or vice versa.

I just LOL on poor ruskie propaganda attack at gfy

thx for making ruskie look full retards

Donetsk police supports Eastern Ukrainian people (so-called "russkie terrorists" according to the OP):



The same happened in Slavansk and Lugansk.

MrDeiz, care to comment? ;)

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LOL :1orglaugh

Um Mr Diez as far as the BBC NEWS are saying a Ukranian officer was killed and 5 other Ukranians have been injured. No mention of any Pro Russian troops being killed or injured and they are still in control of the police station.

The people are saying they want a referendum not a war, but that idiot of a president you have in Kiev goes an launches an attack against the Pro Russian troops and loses. Your country will end up in a civil war if not carefull and you know that Russia wont back down, Russia has you fucked both military and economically and your country owes Russia a crap load of money for gas.


If I were you i would get out of that hell hole you are in as fast as possible :2 cents:

Nope. They have started a civilian war by sending the regular army against of protestors on the Eastern Ukraine. That's only beginning. Do you remember my post about riots on Maydan (that one where I described this even before the first blood was shed in Kiev)? Everybody who knew the real situation on the Ukraine (one country - two different cultures) was not have to be a rocket scientist to make such a prediction :2 cents:

correct. have been away for the whole day, checking the news. posted those in very morning once there were very few details

there's no conditions for civil war. if no ruskies, everything would be peaceful here. on the other side - the whole country gets united again ruskie. so that's a good one

There is no such a party. There is a bunch of criminals that may call themselves so, but this doesn't make them them a party. They are illegals, and they were or will be caught and sent to jail. They have no chairs in Russian parliament etc (like they are in Ukraine). So I don't understand why did you post this pic here. Post something about Czech Nazi instead.

What an idiot...

It's time to. I'd send troops much sooner. And it's a fight against separatism. There are no 2 cultures at all, its a made up shit.

Exactly :2 cents:

that's a pretty big fuck up by ruskie, but there were very many of others. they are mass-producing lie of that kind on a daily basis

It is the same Rada, no President Rada takes action.
The whole Crimea thing is an invasion, I'd send troops much sooner.

And if you think you know better I believe you're Russian.

Yes but you have Russians living amongst you and Crimea and Sloviansk are pirmarally Russians. Dont you think the people have a right to belong to Russia if the wish to ? Just like Kiev wants to join the EU.

How many "ruskies" can you see on this video, clown?

They want "referendum" that is not legal, they are pre-paid by Putin, only a national referendum can decide it, not any local.
Ukraine has been robbed at least within a decade by Yanukovich , a Putin's puppet.

You lost it, mate.
Kiev based Government stands for democratic values, united Ukraine, joining the EU while
the Eastern blockers are calling for separatism to join Russia who invaded and tried annexing a part of the Ukrainian land.

This is what happened.

Crimea is a very different thing. There are Russian military bases that were supported by majority of Crimean citizens, so if you'd send the troops there, they all would be dead by now (Ukrainian "army" is a joke). So you have to say a big "thank you!" to Turchinov for not commuting a suicide by doing this :2 cents:

And why is it not legal ? Because the west says it aint ? Its up to local regions to decide who they want to rule them and if it means breaking up Ukrain so be it . It would stop a lot of bloodshed because this will end up like the Yugoslavian war if it continues with ethnic fighting between the two sides.

Putin should have NOT invaded at all, he broke the international agreement. I don't have to thank Putin at all but tell my kids there is an enemy state invading our country, teach them to hate Russia.

It's illegal according to Constitution.
Without Russian influence there would be no referendums, victims. We wanted to get rid of Yanukovich who played Putin's hand. That simple. And we did it, but
Russia decided to call for separatism in Ukraine.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


PS: pay your bills !

Democratic values my ass :1orglaugh

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You are real patriot of the Ukraine. Your kids gotta feel cool in Poland :1orglaugh

Did you say "Constitution"? LOL ))) Should I assume that bloody Maydan revolution was legal according to the Ukrainian Constitution?

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Should I say eat a bag of dicks asshole?
A tandem of Yanukovich and Putin made it up robbing Ukraine, and you tell me about the bills, moron. I pay mine.

It was legal because people were fed up with Yanukovich mafia robbing our country. There were no call for separatism at all. And, it does not make you or any Russian involved, mind your own business in your country.

If you were a patriot of your country you'd shut the fuck up. Because your children are now our enemies too.

That is also non of your business.

I think you mean its illegal when it suits the country. Its all total bullshit, and if the mainly Russian people in parts of Ukrain want to belong to Russia then thats up to them.

Wow, I'm sooooooooooo afraid :winkwink:

Is this some joke? They came on power by force, after days of chaos , destruction and aggression and you are talking about democracy?

Nothing from this would happen in case that normal procedure was followed. Elections. Very simple. What people are doing in eastern Ukraine is same as it was done in Kiev.

Do you really think Russians will just leave those military factories to idiots from Maydan?

There is no "his country". He has said "fuck you" to the Ukraine and moved to Poland. Just an average loser :2 cents:

I feel sorry for both the Ukrainians and the Russians for what has happened, and tbh I wouldent stay in Ukrain either the way things are going. Both the Russian and Ukrainians and the west have caused all this crap with the country and its always the innocent people who get caught up with it thanks to our politicians

If you want to come to live in Canada you sell your shit and go there.
But they act as if Canada chose to intrude USA and offer them free healthcare BUT never delivered.

Even if I did, how does it make me a loser?
Check your occupant books.

Not sure what that means or what you are trying to say ???

Noting to feel sorry about. May be it's a moment of truth. Many people choose to spend their lives together keeping bad peace, but others choose to seek new horizons.

You've easily adapted pro-Russian TV genome but you're def stupid to understand the comparison. I'm done here.

I am not pro Russian nor am I pro Ukrainian but I can see that if you do not let the Russian parts of Ukrain go to Russia, Ukrain will end up with a civil war on thier hands and a lot of people being killed. Russia has a long history with Ukrain dating back to around the 1700's so its a no brainer that the Russian people living in Ukrain want Russia to rule them.

he doesn`t know himself ...:2 cents:

ALL his posts shows that he is mentally challenged ...:Oh crap

The simple fact is Russia had zero right to move on Ukraine's soil. It doesn't matter if there are protests or not. Russia broke international law and their short term gain is going to cost them a he'll of a lot more in the long run.

What about Kosovo? Were there any right to do it ?

and from wiki...
In return for giving up its nuclear weapons, Ukraine, the United States of America, Russia, and the United Kingdom signed the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances, pledging to respect Ukraine territorial integrity, a pledge that was broken by Russia's 2014 invasion of Crimea.

I can't be 100% sure, but in Budapest agreement, no one mentioned violent takeover of power, and discrimination of Russian language(rights) and calls for killing Russians, right?

correct me if I am wrong.:thumbsup

We both know what Russian army have not yet crossed the Ukrainian boarder. We also know what Russian army is ready to do that if Ukrainian military forces will be used against civilians. So it's all up to the new Ukrainian government.

Do you mean the Crimea case. Formally Russia did not broke anything because it just used the Kosovo precedent (do you know what precedent law is?)

You guys think they will ever find that missing plane?