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femdomdestiny 04-13-2014 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20048138)
An what that says? the is was or helped the nazis? He just thought by being on their side it could help his cause for independence. read the context and study some history before posting nonsense bullshit around

It says precisely this: ...thought that they had found a new powerful ally in Nazi Germany...

He wanted to be with them but was fucked up later. Most of countries have these guys and guess what, they always end dead.

klinton 04-13-2014 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Lichen (Post 20048060)
Russian public transport LMAO


do you know how the public transport look like in Ukraine ? ;-)

Sexier 04-13-2014 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20048140)
It says precisely this: ...thought that they had found a new powerful ally in Nazi Germany...

He wanted to be with them but was fucked up later. Most of countries have these guys and guess what, they always end dead.

You are correct on this one most countries do have persons like him and most end up dead, but still we cant call him or any nationalist nazi. He was a nationalist and saw a window of opportunity with the nazi regime thats all.

just a punk 04-13-2014 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20048098)
If he was a nazi why they put him in prison?

"Bandera was arrested and imprisoned by the Nazis until September 1944. Bandera was assassinated in 1959 by the KGB"

Because he was Ukrainian Nazi but a not German one :2 cents:

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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20048160)
You are correct on this one most countries do have persons like him and most end up dead, but still we cant call him or any nationalist nazi. He was a nationalist and saw a window of opportunity with the nazi regime thats all.

Nationalist = Nazi.

ZiggiZiggiCrew 04-13-2014 07:47 AM

MrDeiz, в ачиридной рас тибе придлагайу - падрачи и узбагойся:winkwink:
вот тибе писдатая фота, и падрачить мона (я уже слихка перидернул 2 раса) и асазнать место Украины в савременом мире:winkwink:

http://from-ua.com/upload/pub_image/...ad01358262.jpg

Sexier 04-13-2014 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20048186)
Because he was Ukrainian Nazi but a not German one :2 cents:



Nationalist = Nazi.

Franko and Mussolini weren't German nazis and they didn't arrest them, I´m not saying Bandera was saint or good person just saying he wasn't nazi or had any nazi ideas other then having them on his side.

Nationalist = Nazi
Who told you that? some russian propaganda?

I´m a nationalist and a patriot that make me a NAZI! don´t think so. Nazism is what you should be looking for not nationalism.

crockett 04-13-2014 07:57 AM

Here is some pretty piss poor Russian propaganda.. The same guy, with the same bandages wearing the same shirt is interviewed 3 times and each time he's a different person..

1st he is a innocent bystander "beat up by neo-nazis"

2nd he is a evil German spy. " oh no look it's Nazis"

3rd he was a surgeon. "Saved 200 infants and attacked by nazis"

You just can't make this shit up. It's on the same level as North Korean propaganda. The only people they fool is themselves..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrode...eroic-surgeon/

So this is how the Russian govt sells their war, by calling Ukraine Nazis.. It's working too as we see the mouth breathers here in this topic shouting Nazi at everyone..

klinton 04-13-2014 08:01 AM

how about this charming young lady ? ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA

is this propaganda or not ?
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20048212)
Here is some pretty piss poor Russian propaganda.. The same guy, with the same bandages wearing the same shirt is interviewed 3 times and each time he's a different person..

1st he is a innocent bystander

2nd he is a evil German spy

3rd he was a surgan

You just can't make this shit up. It's on the same level as North Korean propaganda. The only people they fool is themselves..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrode...eroic-surgeon/

So this is how the Russian govt sells their war, by calling Ukraine Nazis.. It's working too as we see the mouth breathers here in this topic shouting Nazi at everyone..


just a punk 04-13-2014 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20048205)
I´m a nationalist and a patriot that make me a NAZI!

Ah, ok then :winkwink:

Sid70 04-13-2014 08:46 AM

It's clear that current Ukrainian Government is holding up against the direct military actions to save lives of our citizens. I can only imagine what is the plan B, but I'm sure Putin is a bad ass manipulator who knows the Eastern Ukrainian population social needs to play his dirty game.

directfiesta 04-13-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048238)
It's clear that current Ukrainian Government is holding up against the direct military actions to save lives of our citizens. I can only imagine what is the plan B, but I'm sure Putin is a bad ass manipulator who knows the Eastern Ukrainian population social needs to play his dirty game.

- First, it is not an elected government
- No lives of '' your'' citizens were threatened, till the ruthless repression of the coup forces
- Plan B is managed by John Brennan , CIA director

Let those people have referendums and choose their own destiny.


BTW, what is the difference in the terms :
- insurgents
- terrorists
- rebels
- freedom fighters

???

femdomdestiny 04-13-2014 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20048160)
You are correct on this one most countries do have persons like him and most end up dead, but still we cant call him or any nationalist nazi. He was a nationalist and saw a window of opportunity with the nazi regime thats all.

Oh...so if we see now same window with Al Quaeda that is fine, right? Precisely that is what people don't wont and that is : nazi supporters or those that are able to find excuse for what happened in WW2.

Kolargol 04-13-2014 10:05 AM

http://www.nationalism.org/rnsp/salute.GIF
Russian National Socialist Party

You can find idiots in every country. There are nazi idiots in France, Denmark and Germany and pretty much everywhere.

femdomdestiny 04-13-2014 10:09 AM

yes, but when they come to power by force, then you have a problem.
Also, population is huge, more then 10% in a country that have 45 millions citizens

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...oboda-2012.png

Sexier 04-13-2014 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20048274)
Oh...so if we see now same window with Al Quaeda that is fine, right? Precisely that is what people don't wont and that is : nazi supporters or those that are able to find excuse for what happened in WW2.

Where do you read that I support Al Quaeda or any Nazi ideas?

Just trying to explain to the brainless people in here that Nationalism is not same as Nazism.

As I stated before don´t give a dam shit if he was nationalist or nazist just tried to explain that being a nationalist doesn't mean he was a nazist or vice versa.

MrDeiz 04-13-2014 10:51 AM

I just LOL on poor ruskie propaganda attack at gfy

thx for making ruskie look full retards

just a punk 04-13-2014 10:51 AM

Donetsk police supports Eastern Ukrainian people (so-called "russkie terrorists" according to the OP):



The same happened in Slavansk and Lugansk.

MrDeiz, care to comment? ;)

just a punk 04-13-2014 10:53 AM

[QUOTE=MrDeiz;20048330ruskie propaganda attack at gfy[/QUOTE]

LOL :1orglaugh

halfpint 04-13-2014 10:59 AM

Um Mr Diez as far as the BBC NEWS are saying a Ukranian officer was killed and 5 other Ukranians have been injured. No mention of any Pro Russian troops being killed or injured and they are still in control of the police station.

The people are saying they want a referendum not a war, but that idiot of a president you have in Kiev goes an launches an attack against the Pro Russian troops and loses. Your country will end up in a civil war if not carefull and you know that Russia wont back down, Russia has you fucked both military and economically and your country owes Russia a crap load of money for gas.


If I were you i would get out of that hell hole you are in as fast as possible :2 cents:

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048238)
It's clear that current Ukrainian Government is holding up against the direct military actions to save lives of our citizens.

Nope. They have started a civilian war by sending the regular army against of protestors on the Eastern Ukraine. That's only beginning. Do you remember my post about riots on Maydan (that one where I described this even before the first blood was shed in Kiev)? Everybody who knew the real situation on the Ukraine (one country - two different cultures) was not have to be a rocket scientist to make such a prediction :2 cents:

MrDeiz 04-13-2014 11:02 AM

correct. have been away for the whole day, checking the news. posted those in very morning once there were very few details

there's no conditions for civil war. if no ruskies, everything would be peaceful here. on the other side - the whole country gets united again ruskie. so that's a good one

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Kolargol (Post 20048284)
http://www.nationalism.org/rnsp/salute.GIF
Russian National Socialist Party

There is no such a party. There is a bunch of criminals that may call themselves so, but this doesn't make them them a party. They are illegals, and they were or will be caught and sent to jail. They have no chairs in Russian parliament etc (like they are in Ukraine). So I don't understand why did you post this pic here. Post something about Czech Nazi instead.

What an idiot...

Sid70 04-13-2014 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20048339)
Nope. They have started a civilian war by sending the regular army against of protestors on the Eastern Ukraine. That's only beginning. Do you remember my post about riots on Maydan (that one where I described this even before the first blood was shed in Kiev)? Everybody who knew the real situation on the Ukraine (one country - two different cultures) was not have to be a rocket scientist to make such a prediction :2 cents:

It's time to. I'd send troops much sooner. And it's a fight against separatism. There are no 2 cultures at all, its a made up shit.

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 20048336)
The people are saying they want a referendum not a war, but that idiot of a president you have in Kiev goes an launches an attack against the Pro Russian troops and loses. Your country will end up in a civil war if not carefull and you know that Russia wont back down, Russia has you fucked both military and economically and your country owes Russia a crap load of money for gas.

Exactly :2 cents:

MrDeiz 04-13-2014 11:11 AM

that's a pretty big fuck up by ruskie, but there were very many of others. they are mass-producing lie of that kind on a daily basis

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20048212)
Here is some pretty piss poor Russian propaganda.. The same guy, with the same bandages wearing the same shirt is interviewed 3 times and each time he's a different person..

1st he is a innocent bystander "beat up by neo-nazis"

2nd he is a evil German spy. " oh no look it's Nazis"

3rd he was a surgeon. "Saved 200 infants and attacked by nazis"

You just can't make this shit up. It's on the same level as North Korean propaganda. The only people they fool is themselves..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrode...eroic-surgeon/

So this is how the Russian govt sells their war, by calling Ukraine Nazis.. It's working too as we see the mouth breathers here in this topic shouting Nazi at everyone..


Sid70 04-13-2014 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20048256)
- First, it is not an elected government
- No lives of '' your'' citizens were threatened, till the ruthless repression of the coup forces
- Plan B is managed by John Brennan , CIA director

Let those people have referendums and choose their own destiny.


BTW, what is the difference in the terms :
- insurgents
- terrorists
- rebels
- freedom fighters

???

It is the same Rada, no President Rada takes action.
The whole Crimea thing is an invasion, I'd send troops much sooner.

And if you think you know better I believe you're Russian.

halfpint 04-13-2014 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 20048340)
correct. have been away for the whole day, checking the news. posted those in very morning once there were very few details

there's no conditions for civil war. if no ruskies, everything would be peaceful here. on the other side - the whole country gets united again ruskie. so that's a good one

Yes but you have Russians living amongst you and Crimea and Sloviansk are pirmarally Russians. Dont you think the people have a right to belong to Russia if the wish to ? Just like Kiev wants to join the EU.

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MrDeiz (Post 20048340)
there's no conditions for civil war. if no ruskies, everything would be peaceful here.

How many "ruskies" can you see on this video, clown?


Sid70 04-13-2014 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 20048336)
Um Mr Diez as far as the BBC NEWS are saying a Ukranian officer was killed and 5 other Ukranians have been injured. No mention of any Pro Russian troops being killed or injured and they are still in control of the police station.

The people are saying they want a referendum not a war, but that idiot of a president you have in Kiev goes an launches an attack against the Pro Russian troops and loses. Your country will end up in a civil war if not carefull and you know that Russia wont back down, Russia has you fucked both military and economically and your country owes Russia a crap load of money for gas.


If I were you i would get out of that hell hole you are in as fast as possible :2 cents:

They want "referendum" that is not legal, they are pre-paid by Putin, only a national referendum can decide it, not any local.
Ukraine has been robbed at least within a decade by Yanukovich , a Putin's puppet.

Sid70 04-13-2014 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20047995)
Yes, he is that stupid ....

The non-elected Kiev puppy government, that took power by arms ( a coup ) are calling those doing similar actions to achieve their independance " terrorists " by those same " terrorists ", all this killing backed by the USA and Kerry ...

Hypocrisy at its best :1orglaugh

You lost it, mate.
Kiev based Government stands for democratic values, united Ukraine, joining the EU while
the Eastern blockers are calling for separatism to join Russia who invaded and tried annexing a part of the Ukrainian land.

This is what happened.

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048349)
The whole Crimea thing is an invasion, I'd send troops much sooner.

Crimea is a very different thing. There are Russian military bases that were supported by majority of Crimean citizens, so if you'd send the troops there, they all would be dead by now (Ukrainian "army" is a joke). So you have to say a big "thank you!" to Turchinov for not commuting a suicide by doing this :2 cents:

halfpint 04-13-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048354)
They want "referendum" that is not legal, they are pre-paid by Putin, only a national referendum can decide it, not any local.

And why is it not legal ? Because the west says it aint ? Its up to local regions to decide who they want to rule them and if it means breaking up Ukrain so be it . It would stop a lot of bloodshed because this will end up like the Yugoslavian war if it continues with ethnic fighting between the two sides.

Sid70 04-13-2014 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20048358)
Crimea is a very different thing. There are Russian military bases that were supported by majority of Crimean citizens, so if you'd send the troops there, they all would be dead by now (Ukrainian "army" is a joke). So you have to say a big "thank you!" to Turchinov for not commuting a suicide by doing this :2 cents:

Putin should have NOT invaded at all, he broke the international agreement. I don't have to thank Putin at all but tell my kids there is an enemy state invading our country, teach them to hate Russia.

Sid70 04-13-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 20048359)
And why is it not legal ? Because the west says it aint ? Its up to local regions to decide who they want to rule them and if it means breaking up Ukrain so be it . It would stop a lot of bloodshed because this will end up like the Yugoslavian war if it continues with ethnic fighting between the two sides.

It's illegal according to Constitution.
Without Russian influence there would be no referendums, victims. We wanted to get rid of Yanukovich who played Putin's hand. That simple. And we did it, but
Russia decided to call for separatism in Ukraine.

directfiesta 04-13-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048357)
You lost it, mate.
Kiev based Government stands for democratic values, united Ukraine, joining the EU while
the Eastern blockers are calling for separatism to join Russia who invaded and tried annexing a part of the Ukrainian land.

This is what happened.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


PS: pay your bills !

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048357)
Kiev based Government stands for democratic values

Democratic values my ass :1orglaugh

http://glav.su/files/messages/2014/0...fc969d3dce.jpg

http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/image...94_council.jpg

http://americanstatehypocrisy.files....gel_maidan.jpg

http://ronaldthomaswest.files.wordpr...azi_salute.jpg

http://www.globalresearch.ca/wp-cont...tyahnybok1.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TD6Nory.jpg

http://d56amtpp2y9sx.cloudfront.net/...-neo-nazis.jpg

http://en.fbii.org/storage/c/2014/03..._845760_87.jpg

https://portside.org/sites/default/f...%20Bandera.jpg

http://forum-pridnestrovie.info/wp-c...03/ES_maht.jpg

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048366)
but tell my kids there is an enemy state invading our country, teach them to hate Russia.

You are real patriot of the Ukraine. Your kids gotta feel cool in Poland :1orglaugh

just a punk 04-13-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70 (Post 20048368)
It's illegal according to Constitution.

Did you say "Constitution"? LOL ))) Should I assume that bloody Maydan revolution was legal according to the Ukrainian Constitution?

http://eduncovered.com/wp-content/up...-story-bro.jpg

Sid70 04-13-2014 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 20048371)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


PS: pay your bills !

Should I say eat a bag of dicks asshole?
A tandem of Yanukovich and Putin made it up robbing Ukraine, and you tell me about the bills, moron. I pay mine.

Sid70 04-13-2014 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20048375)
Did you say "Constitution"? LOL ))) Should I assume that bloody Maydan revolution was legal according to the Ukrainian Constitution?

http://eduncovered.com/wp-content/up...-story-bro.jpg

It was legal because people were fed up with Yanukovich mafia robbing our country. There were no call for separatism at all. And, it does not make you or any Russian involved, mind your own business in your country.


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