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brassmonkey 04-14-2014 02:39 PM
they don't need permission to do that. big fucking deal

stoka 04-14-2014 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20049842)
[url]however the story of the embassy 'being taken off the protected list' is a funny one
funny? you obviously missed electric messages part

DWB 04-14-2014 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20049650)
Hang on...so we have a destroyer in the Black Sea and we have a problem with Russia flying a plane over it?

That would be like Russia having a destroyer off the coast of Fla. in the Gulf Of Mexico.

Not only would we be flying planes over it...we would be raising hell for them to leave and threatening war.
:2 cents:

_Richard_ 04-14-2014 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by stoka (Post 20049852)
funny? you obviously missed electric messages part
you obviously missed the 'out of 900 targeted attacks, the CIA had 1'

how easy would it be to fake 'electric messages'? no actual documentation

i wanna know your personal opinion :)

stoka 04-14-2014 02:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20049854)
you obviously missed the 'out of 900 targeted attacks, the CIA had 1'
you obviously missed my sarcasm :winkwink:

_Richard_ 04-14-2014 02:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stoka (Post 20049856)
you obviously missed my sarcasm :winkwink:
totally guilty :(

crockett 04-14-2014 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20049842)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/us-air-...eliberate/1665

seems to be a lot of stories around the 'why'

however the story of the embassy 'being taken off the protected list' is a funny one
It was a story that came from the Guardian and was later confirmed.

_Richard_ 04-14-2014 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20049858)
It was a story that came from the Guardian and was later confirmed.
so it must be true.

what is your input on why the NATO allies wouldn't use a massive scandal like that to their advantage?

rather, piss it all away in a bizarre 'he said she said they did' scenario?

obviously strategy far beyond our blinkered minds..

femdomdestiny 04-14-2014 03:06 PM
Anyway, blaming Russians for anything here is more then hypocrisy. All rules were destroyed precisely by NATO counties in episodes we are talking about above. Attacking country without UN mandate, taking part of territory and bombing embassies was cool as long as opponent is weaker so many times that you can blame him for whatever you want. I am wondering, why NATO is not bombing Russia now if they hold them responsible for whatever they are considering that they are. It would be logical move, right?

Robbie 04-14-2014 03:08 PM
We NEVER fuck with any country that can actually defend itself anymore.

Our federal govt. is the bully of the world and uses our military as it's muscle.

crockett 04-14-2014 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20049866)
so it must be true.

what is your input on why the NATO allies wouldn't use a massive scandal like that to their advantage?

rather, piss it all away in a bizarre 'he said she said they did' scenario?

obviously strategy far beyond our blinkered minds..
It was not just the US but NATO that did it, I think they used it for what it was. A warning to China to back off and the denial of communications to the Serbs. At that time China wasn't the same economic partner to the West as it is today. It was only 2 years later that the Chinese fighter jet collide with the US spy plane killing the Chinese pilot and forcing the US plane to land in Chinese controlled territory.

We were still very much antagonizing each other, so I think it was just used as a combined way to end the military communications for the Serbs and to tell China to back off and not get involved with any kind of support.

crockett 04-14-2014 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20049875)
We NEVER fuck with any country that can actually defend itself anymore.

Our federal govt. is the bully of the world and uses our military as it's muscle.
We do, we just do it in other ways than just militarily. Countries that can defend themselves are usually better off economically than those that can't. Meaning hindering them economically, will harm them just as much in the long run.

What would the US gain by bringing troops into the situation in Ukraine? There is just far too much risk of a bigger war, so Russia will push more so they can grab some more land and US/NATO will not do anything forcibly to stop it. There is not any real gains for us to do anything to actually stop it. Russia will try to take more, most likely so they have more to bargain with if there is a deal made. Sadly Ukraine is the one in the middle that gets the shaft either way.

It's short term profits for Russia but in the long term it's going to hurt them a lot economically. Investors will see Russia as unpredictable and Europe will start looking elsewhere for gas. Russia still tries to play the game as if it were the old world and trying to rebuild their old empire land mass. The US understands you don't rule the world by colonialism of the old but rather you control the world economy by trade.

_Richard_ 04-14-2014 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20049876)
It was not just the US but NATO that did it, I think they used it for what it was. A warning to China to back off and the denial of communications to the Serbs. At that time China wasn't the same economic partner to the West as it is today. It was only 2 years later that the Chinese fighter jet collide with the US spy plane killing the Chinese pilot and forcing the US plane to land in Chinese controlled territory.

We were still very much antagonizing each other, so I think it was just used as a combined way to end the military communications for the Serbs and to tell China to back off and not get involved with any kind of support.
yes, that must be it

Dirty Dane 04-14-2014 04:08 PM
Why can't we all just be friends.

http://i.imgur.com/lyq0YVR.jpg

directfiesta 04-14-2014 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Dane (Post 20049920)
Why can't we all just be friends.

http://i.imgur.com/lyq0YVR.jpg
kiss of Judah ....

EddyTheDog 04-14-2014 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20049866)
so it must be true.

what is your input on why the NATO allies wouldn't use a massive scandal like that to their advantage?

rather, piss it all away in a bizarre 'he said she said they did' scenario?

obviously strategy far beyond our blinkered minds..
Or then again it could be true?...

dyna mo 04-14-2014 06:29 PM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-9Fh6L7y4kb..._053Pyxurz.jpg

Antonio 04-15-2014 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20049650)
Hang on...so we have a destroyer in the Black Sea and we have a problem with Russia flying a plane over it?
The Black Sea is surrounded by NATO countries, Russia should stay in its tiny corner

VKcams 04-15-2014 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20050201)
The Black Sea is surrounded by NATO countries, Russia should stay in its tiny corner
Buy a Black Sea Map and count NATO countries.
US military ships can stay in Black Sea not more than 21 Days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreu..._the_St raits

Antonio 04-15-2014 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by VKcams (Post 20050205)
Buy a Black Sea Map and count NATO countries.
US military ships can stay in Black Sea not more than 21 Days.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreu..._the_St raits
You might be right, geography isn't my strong point, let's see if I got it right


http://www.sexyostrich.com/bs/img.png

just a punk 04-15-2014 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 20050201)
The Black Sea is surrounded by NATO countries, Russia should stay in its tiny corner
It's not just a NATO ship. It's the US ship. Perhaps you don't know but Black Sea has very strict limits for of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states (e.g. the USA).

What exactly the US ship is doing there? What is the purpose of the "visit"? I'll tell you. It came there to provoke Russia. So the US sailors are playing a fool when they "don't understand" what Russian jet is doing near their ship. Because they know it. It's there to provoke the States. That's the rules of the game, and Vendz will confirm it.

P.S. As we say: "if you pull out a gun, always be ready to use it, otherwise you may find it stuck in your own ass".

EddyTheDog 04-15-2014 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20050213)
It's not just a NATO ship. It's the US ship. Perhaps you don't know but Black Sea has very strict limits for of naval ships not belonging to Black Sea states (e.g. the USA).

What exactly the US ship is doing there? What is the purpose of the "visit"? I'll tell you. It came there to provoke Russia. So the US sailors are playing a fool when they "don't understand" what Russian jet is doing near their ship. Because they know it. It's there to provoke the States. That's the rules of the game, and Vendz will confirm it.

P.S. As we say: "if you pull out a gun, always be ready to use it, otherwise you may find it stuck in your own ass".
I thought they where there at the request of Romania and it was organized long before this mess started...

Sexier 04-15-2014 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20050219)
I thought they where there at the request of Romania and it was organized long before this mess started...
You are correct as most of the times before those night drinks, it was planned way before this mess started only russians see it the other way.


By the way weather in south of Spain is gorgeous just to make you jealous

VKcams 04-15-2014 01:10 AM
Usualy Russian Fighters and Bombers send pictures of US Military Ships to their E-Mail.
Probably pilot likes not a picture, and he make new pictures again and again. :)

EddyTheDog 04-15-2014 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Sexier (Post 20050226)
You are correct as most of the times before those night drinks, it was planned way before this mess started only russians see it the other way.


By the way weather in south of Spain is gorgeous just to make you jealous
WTF - Are you my mum?..

I have told her before - No fake nics.....

Sexier 04-15-2014 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20050240)
WTF - Are you my mum?..

I have told her before - No fake nics.....
Nope, but your mum is giving me great info..

just a punk 04-15-2014 07:19 AM
Don't know is that's true or not... so I just post it here with no comment: http://translate.google.com/translat...tml&edit-text=

Antonio 04-15-2014 08:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20050515)
Don't know is that's true or not... so I just post it here with no comment: http://translate.google.com/translat...tml&edit-text=
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

_Richard_ 04-15-2014 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by EddyTheDog (Post 20049968)
Or then again it could be true?...
truth is a matter of perspective.

if you want to have the perspective that the reason NATO launched three cruise missiles at an embassy was because the chinese embassy was communicating with the local army

after making up a bunch of bs about incorrect maps blah blah

be my guest

VKcams 04-15-2014 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSEO (Post 20050515)
Don't know is that's true or not... so I just post it here with no comment: http://translate.google.com/translat...tml&edit-text=
21 day or 14 Days in Black Sea with no problems?

femdomdestiny 04-15-2014 03:05 PM

just a punk 04-15-2014 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted by femdomdestiny (Post 20051166)
No facts, just a pure Russian propaganda. The real and independent truth is only on CNN and Fox "News" - they never lie :pimp

evy97 06-04-2014 07:23 AM
US spy plane flies in Russian sovereign territory, Russian's accused of being provocative by intercepting it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27701195

just a punk 06-04-2014 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20111395)
US spy plane flies in Russian sovereign territory, Russian's accused of being provocative by intercepting it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27701195
Classic :thumbsup :1orglaugh

dyna mo 06-04-2014 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20111395)
US spy plane flies in Russian sovereign territory, Russian's accused of being provocative by intercepting it :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-27701195
so international waters is now russian sovereign territory? That explains putin's thinking.

evy97 06-04-2014 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20111461)
so international waters is now russian sovereign territory? That explains putin's thinking.
Sea of Okhotsk is all Russia territory :2 cents:

dyna mo 06-04-2014 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20111491)
Sea of Okhotsk is all Russia territory :2 cents:
not according to the article.

put you're russian I can understand why you think this.

crockett 06-04-2014 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 20049612)
The Pentagon said a Russian fighter jet made multiple close-range passes near an American navy destroyer. The warship was deployed in the Black Sea as Russian military monitored NATO?s systematic build-up of naval forces in the region.

The fighter appeared to be unarmed, US military said, calling the move ?provocative and unprofessional?.

"This provocative and unprofessional Russian action is inconsistent with their national protocols and previous agreements on the professional interaction between our militaries," said Colonel Steve Warren, a Pentagon spokesman.

Pentagon defined the jet as a Russian Su-24 aircraft, or Fencer, which made 12 passes at low altitude near the USS Donald Cook that, at the time, was conducting a patrol in international waters in the western Black Sea, Reuters reported.

Earlier, a military official told AP that on April, 12, a Russian aircraft flew repeatedly within 1,000 yards of the USS Donald Cook at about 500 feet above sea level for over 90 minutes.

According to the official, the destroyer?s crew made several attempts to radio the Russian warplane requesting the reason for the manoeuvre. They then reportedly issued warnings to remain at a safe distance, however, there was no response from the Russian pilot.


The Russians sure are putting a fuck u up to the US :helpme

http://rt.com/news/pentagon-destroyer-russian-jet-428/
Actually I think the biggest fuck U comes at the hand of the US, by the mere fact that we have naval vessels in the black sea and the only thing they can do about it, is to fly unarmed jets by our boats.

evy97 06-04-2014 08:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20111497)
not according to the article.

put you're russian I can understand why you think this.
UN says Sea of Okhotsk enclave part of Russia -> http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/848917.shtml

+ I'm not Russian

dyna mo 06-04-2014 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by evy97 (Post 20111529)
UN says Sea of Okhotsk enclave part of Russia -> http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/848917.shtml

+ I'm not Russian
maybe,

still up for debate, and that's very recently if so. like within the last few days.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peanut_Hole#cite_note-7


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