Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20062367)

You're actually defending this?

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20062533)

I'm not defending anything. I'm saying that you should look at what this guy, (who is just a cattle rancher, not some practiced TV personality), actually said as a whole, in context. Not in some cleverly edited version designed to make the poor schmuck look as bad as they possibly could in order to serve some political agenda.

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20062545)

It's Joe the Plumber (or Sarah Palin even) all over again.

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20062357)

I would see these little government houses, and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids -- and there's always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch. They didn?t have nothing to do. They didn?t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn?t have nothing for their young girls to do.

And because they were basically on government subsidy -- so now what do they do? They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never, they never learned how to pick cotton. And I?ve often wondered are they were better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things? Or are they better off under government subsidy?

Originally Posted by deltav (Post 20062545)

But that's exactly what the Right's done, building him into some kind of hero - overlooking his contradictions and dishonesty and overall ignorance - in order "to serve some political agenda". Turnabout's fair play.

I could care less about this really, but it cracks me up to watch the politicians who were all about this dude now painfully try to distance themselves as the myth they built comes crashing down to reality. It's Joe the Plumber (or Sarah Palin even) all over again.