the only & only remedy for that - watch fox news, cnn, guardian, and Russia Today together...

later use your brain to find truth laying somewhere in between ;-)

or get a stroke

O'rly? What exactly facts do you consider as "fabricated" ones? This one:



Or maybe this one:



Do you think that both were shot at Lubianka's basements? Ok, so what's about the "Porn King" status from Durov's page in vkontakte?

I never said that the state Russian news channels are not propaganda. They are and I just do not watch/read them. However, here in Russian we have a lot of independent (independent from the government, but not from their owners of course) ones and also we have access to all the western media too. How many Russian news sources you have in your TV packets? RT only? For example, my TV packet includes almost all the major Western channels, so I have a lot of sources to choose from.

Yes he is. He is the man who's got 27% of votes in Moscow without using of any administrative resource (has has started his election company with about 5%). He had no access to the state TV channels, for example. However, almost all the sane Moscow citizens (basically 18-40 y.o. ones) have voted for him. This means that Russian citizens have access to lots of alternative sources of information. He is the one whom Putin is afraid like a death. Putin even afraid to call his name publicly (that's a proven fact) because he thinks (there is an official proof too) that if he do that, Navalny will bite a piece of his reputation. So everything that Putin does against Navalny is just a panic - a blind, crazy and uncontrollable fear.

The story behind Durov has nothing to do with Putin. Navalny is a way another case indeed :2 cents:

<yawn...>

Dude, he actually took the time to respond to you, "yawn" is just a fuck-off...

It was never a secret here for years that (vkontakte) had 1000's of CP-related communities (groups) and countless number of such video materials. They even didn't try to hide anything. It was open to anyone and was spreading like a virus. It was lasted for years and was a subject of the claims in Russian media. Even a lazy public person here didn't mention that. And what Durov did after all those public accusations? Did he start a cleaning? No. He just "proudly" added a "porn king" status to his personal page (to be honest, the real cleaning has started later, but only just about a year or two ago), because he didn't want to do any "censorship" (sounds familiar, right?) This story was widely discussed in Russian media a few years ago (e.g. http://www.rosbalt.ru/style/2009/08/07/661536.html, http://www.dp.ru/a/2011/05/03/Pavel_...argumentirova/, http://sobesednik.ru/scandals/201207...detskogo-porno, http://мызд&...E%D0%BD%D1%82/ etс), but course the "independent" Western channels just forgot or completely missed it...

Durov has never been a fighter against the regime (on the contrary he was supporting pro-Putin's groups in vkontakte during the mass protests in 2011). He was using all the scandals to make vkontakte more and more popular. But after moving to a .com zone, his network is going to lose its main advantage - PIRACY. He knows that now it will be hard to host all the copyrighted content there and get away with that. He knew that now vkontakte will lose most of its members or he will lose a freedom...

Just a month ago, Durov has published his famous Seven reasons not to emigrate from Russia (20 days before his "1st April joke"), and now he said that he just can't work here? Do you servilely thing he is for real and he is a victim of Putin's regime?

I think I know why Putin is doing that. We all know that the USA and EU have announced personal sanctions against his close friends after the annexation of Crimea. Now these guys need something to be used as a threat as a condition for lifting of all those sanctions. I.e. "we can annex the eastern half of the Ukraine but we won't do it if you lift all those Crimea-related sanctions". This is how I see it :2 cents:

Relax. That's why I asked you, no sarcasm intended.

That was just a rhetorical question too (no aggression or something like that).

I meant "Do you seriously think he is for real and he is a victim of Putin's regime?" The syntax auto-correction function makes me real mad sometimes :)

I have lost track of my own thread - It's been a crazy few days - Sorry...

So we are going to have PKontakte, PayPutin/PutinPay, and Vladstercard as a result of recent developments created by Russia.

Not to mention e'паспорт...

So Russia armed nazis on Maydan,right?

If you say they did. You would not speak untruths or half truths to me about such things.

Simple question: Who organized and supported armed people that took power over legitimate president?

I fixed it for you...

Tell us, who did it?....

US government(as it always does and push countries into war and misery) .There are no spontaneous revolutions on that scale.

So, now we have nazis that are beating people,threatening with excuse about corruption?

And yet, Timoshenko is one of those who should fix that, with a help of people like Myzichko or boxer Klitshcko? Are you serious and aware that there was a deal between them and government that they simply ignored (sure they did with such support)?

Whoever think that changing president or government will resolve corruption can't be considered intelligent person,as I am concerned.


So what is the epilogue, except loosing Crimea (that no one is mentioning anymore), Ukraine will soon loose half of it's territory and it is a matter of day.

They will also have price of gas that is much higher (already couldn't pay for it and were in debt ) and will loos industry in eastern part of country that is much more developed.

So was it worth of Janukovich? Of coure not, I doubt that anyone with basic education really think it is about him or anything there.

it is game of big powers, as usually, over back of weak and naive that will suffer (part of Ukrainian people). Life won't be changed for people in Moscow or in Washington, but for for people in Ukraine,it is already radically changed compared to few months ago and it will be much worse.

There is no chance that big changes won't happen since we are too far from peaceful or normal solution from the moment when armed nazis took power and got support from US and EU puppets (idiots).

What is irritating NATO is that this time,they have real competitor on the other side and not lonely countries that can't resist . No one will do shit about Ukraine and there is nothing to be done If Russians decide to take it all,they will do it,it is just a matter of their plans how far they will go. It was a matter of time, and as mentioned above,ordinary people will be fucked up. Until recently they lived in peace and everything is better then war.

All this is so predictable.Yet, there are always idiots that will do it and once shit hit the fan, they will run away back in Germany and US, leaving country cut in half and economy ruined.

Sure, then Russia will be our brand new and bigger North Korea that will thrive and prosper in leaps and bounds, sending people to the Sun and back with just a bit of sun lotion and pair of Ray Bans. Awesomeness!