Ah, so is ********** really just a troll? That doesn't fare much better for him.

Interesting studies about trolls: http://www.slate.com/articles/health...ychopathy.html

no, the supreme court cleared that up years ago, the 2nd amendment does not allow individuals nukes, etc.

Who decides where the line is drawn and does the line move as technology and history move on?..

You're so stupid, it's just almost unbelievable. Almost.

Not Canadians. :321GFY

I'd have to refresh myself with the ruling, it's been a while since I've read it it.


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well played.

Tanks, rockets, and nuclear weapons are not protected by the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment protects only arms which one may "keep" and "bear." "The term (p.13)'arms' as used by the drafters of the constitutions probably was intended to include those weapons used by settlers for both personal and military defense... The term 'arms' would not have included cannons nor other heavy ordnance not kept by militiamen or private citizens." State v. Kessler, 289 Or. 359, 368, 614 P.2d 94, 98 (1980).

the Federalist papers are key documents in the history of the USA

The Federalist Papers are a series of 85 articles and essays written by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay promoting the ratification of the United States Constitution.

and James Madison a key person in the creation of the USA.

He is hailed as the "Father of the Constitution" for being instrumental in the drafting of the United States Constitution and as the key champion and author of the United States Bill of Rights.

In The Federalist No. 46, James Madison alluded to "the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation." Madison, Hamilton, and Jay, The Federalist Papers 299 (Arlington House ed. n.d.) Madison continued, "Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms." Id.

Noah Webster, the influential federalist whose name still appears on dictionaries, stated: "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe.

I do like American law - I think it is because you have the 'absolute' of the Constitution to work from...

Canadians you need to be quiet now.
Shhhh! Shhhh!

The hockey playoffs are going on now, worry about that. :D

Why do you think that Canadians like yourself or Brits like Piers Morgan should have anything to say about what goes on in the U.S.?

What good beer would that be? CA has better weed (and beer) than Ca; ask any Amsterdam coffee shop owner.

I am not anti american in any way - However, you do have a habit of inflicting your values on those closest to you and my government at least loves to roll over - I am guessing that it's similar in Canada - That's why we have something to say about America...

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I didn't say they had they better weed or beer than cali. I said they have good weed and beer. I've had both.

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you realize that's flipped flopped right? You're saying since UK and Canada rollover that you're entitled to have a say in our affairs, especially pointing out the ones taken issue with.

If those nations are gonna rollover, well.

What happens in the US does not stay in the US - It has an affect on the rest of us - Some countries like the UK like it - Some don't - We are all entitled to an opinion on the things that effect us...

Guns owned by citizens are the only thing that keeps us free. (-ish)

Read the coming race by Bulwer Lord Lyton. Everybody should have and carry one, the world would be more civilised. ODDLY ENOUGH!!!

Sure, I get that. But at the same time countries go along with the US just because. I'm saying maybe it should be the other way around.

But that also doesn't have much to do with **********'s biased troll threads such as these.

Why do we need gun control laws? People die from gun violence anyway...

Why do cars have seat belts? People die in car wrecks anyway...



I still don't understand why I'm not allowed to own a fully auto rocket launcher, 2nd amendment says so.

Why am I stupid? Educate me. Why were guns and guys playing militia necessary that day?


Lol! Good point. Will do. ;)


Because I love Americans? :)

But seriously, it just seems to me (Our news covers lots of US events) that the gun laws are too relaxed, and that people are afraid of losing their guns, and that the Stand your Ground Law is insane... it's just a point of view from someone outside, looking in.


Bahahahahahahaha that is great...


But seriously everyone... no need to get bent out of shape over this.

Let me ask a question: Sure, everyone is allowed to own a gun, and sure, everyone here on GFY will use it to target practice or in self defence only. Everyone on GFY passes a background check, etc etc. Everyone is a law abiding citizen and you deserve to own a gun if you want one. CHECK.

So now then, why not pass a law, to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? Of crazy people? Why not make it illegal to carry a gun into a school? Or a bar? Do you not think that this is going too far?

They also just had fucking muskets back then with marauding British around and no standing army.... Second amendment is extremely archaic and needs to be updated.

lol - That's true - I have had a few too many beers to carry on much longer anyway - I expect I stopped making sense about an hour ago...

Not my job to educate you. Anybody that understands WHY our 2nd Amendment exists has no problem understanding exactly how and why it applies to this situation.

And why should an American have to educate a Canadian? Dont you fuckers already know everything?

When were you at Ft Drum?

I was there from Feb 91 - Aug 95

A fucking Men. If it is lives you are trying to save guns or taking them away is not going to make a dent. Look at all the top ways people die and do something about that if you really care. Not only the top way they die but the money it cost because of all the smokers and super fat people.
Some kid shoots up a school and kills 20 and everyone freaks the fuck out but 1000 died today from something else and who gives a flying fuck because most were old or you didn't see just how bad it really was on TV after dieing for 5 years from cancer and the bi-weekly chemo treatments that make them so sick week after week that cost over a million dollars to extend the last few years of their life when they cannot really do much except watch tv anyway. ok i'm done bitching and I don't even own a gun

There's only about 3 Canadians on this board that constantly complain about the US. Oddly enough most of them seem to live in quebec.

I don't really get bent out of shape about gun control either way, but one funny thing I've noticed...

When you start talking to real pro-gun folks about why their right to own assault rifles & whatnot is so important, 99% of the time it comes out that they have this juvenile fantasy of being the last bastion of Freedom & Liberty for this hazy future time when the big bad gubmint truly decides to take over. They really feel it's a plausible scenario that they and other gun owners will band together into like an effective resistance force to protect fellow citizens from the Feds or the US Army or the One World Government i.e. UN.

It's just a fairyland left over from playing cowboys & indians at age 8, what cracks me up is that these grown men take it dead serious and have no idea how childish they sound.

Were all the Watertown girls still 400+ pounds?

Is this a serious question? Do you honestly believe that those laws don't already exist?

In most places, it is illegal to carry a gun in schools. Colorado for instance, you're not allowed to do that there. Can't carry them in movie theaters either. Clearly passing such laws has helped eliminate shootings in CO schools and theaters....Right?


Mark, lets pretend for a moment that you attend a high school basketball game. At some point in the game, some dudes bust through the door and open fire. One of them approaches your area, grabs you or your wife/friend/kid, and sticks a gun to their head....

Would you rather:

1: Offer him a swig of your Molson Ice

2: Explain to him that you don't believe in guns

3: Throw your beer at him

4: Pull out your own gun and have a fighting chance to defend yourself and your loved ones?

Yep, we called them hoes water buffalos :1orglaugh

I would prefer he didn't have a gun in the first place...