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2MuchMark 05-04-2014 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20074610)
And Fox is the number 1 cable news show, so they must know what they are doing! April 2014 Ratings: Fox News Marks 148 Straight Months At No. 1

Fox IS number one......in the 60 to 80 demographic. Old fool republicans watch old fool news that spoon-feeds the same shit they heard when ol' Ronnie was making those scary socialized medicare records.



Ever hear this shit? Has you have - its the same rhetoric you hear on Fox every single day.

DTK 05-04-2014 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GregE (Post 20075501)
This is why I find it so amusing when the tea party types insist on labeling Obama as a tree hugging socialist. The man is a right leaning centrist who's positions are clearly to the right of both Clintons and those of most of his Democratic constituents.

100% True. Good luck convincing low-info right-wingers & Obamabots of this.

Rochard 05-04-2014 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20074907)
Stevens was in Libya funneling arms to Syrian rebels. Nobody will come out and say that, but it's just a matter of putting one and one together.

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-sy...2012-10#!H6Xih

Libya sent a supply of their own arms to Syria and the US was supplying Libya. So most likely instead of passing US arms directly to Syria they were given Libyan arms and the US then reimbursed Libya. Stevens was likely the guy on the ground coordinating it.

And?

Do we now instantly confess to every intelligence operation we have?

So at the end of the day the only problem is the White House, State Department, the US miliary, and the CIA is trying to conceal a... Covert intelligence operation involving the CIA? We should investigate this further. In fact....

We should find out who in Congress approved this convert action.

Then.... We shouldn't allow the CIA to operate in other countries. (You don't think the CIA isn't funneling arms, ammo, and money into Ukraine RIGHT NOW?)

Robbie 05-04-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20075514)
Fox IS number one......in the 60 to 80 demographic. Old fool republicans watch old fool news that spoon-feeds the same shit they heard when ol' Ronnie was making those scary socialized medicare records.

Nice that you seem to hate older people.

But unfortunately for your ignorant statement...Fox is not only number one in that demographic but ALSO the 25 to 54 year old demographic.

Average number of viewers in primetime:

FNC: 1.774 million viewers / 297,000 adults 25-54

MSNBC: 645,000 viewers / 203,000 adults 25-54

So just like the bureaucrats and politicians here in the U.S., you have mastered the art of not telling the WHOLE story.

FNC beats MSNBC in EVERY demographic. It's simply more entertaining...if you're in the mood for that kind of "entertainment".

bronco67 05-04-2014 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20074310)

He was thinking "oh shit, daddy won't be able to bail me out of this mess."

bronco67 05-04-2014 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20074610)

And Fox is the number 1 cable news show, so they must know what they are doing! April 2014 Ratings: Fox News Marks 148 Straight Months At No. 1

They do know what they're doing, and they're doing it better than anyone else. Keeping old people and rednecks misinformed.

DTK 05-04-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075626)
Nice that you seem to hate older people.

Way to twist a guy's words there, Robbie. Not to mention saying that he seems to HATE older people. Inflammatory, much? Maybe you want to dial it back a hair.

The fact is, the median age of a Fox viewer is 68, with a 1.1% black viewership. The stereotype of Fox as a channel for old white conservatives is backed up by the data.

Oh, and they've been losing the younger demographic for years.

"TVNewser reported on the big drop in young people tuning into Fox News, ?Compared to 2012, Fox News was down -5% in total viewers and -19% in the A25-54 demographic in total day. In primetime, the network was down -14% in total viewers and -30% in the demo, the steepest decline among younger viewers of all the cable news networks.?

2012 was a presidential election year, so all three cable news networks lost viewers in 2013. The difference is that at Fox News this problem has been going on for years. The move of Megyn Kelly to 9 PM was supposed to attract young viewers, but Kelly suffered a drop 23% in young viewership compared to Sean Hannity?s 2012 ratings. Bill O?Reilly is down 23% with younger viewers, and Hannity is down 16%."

bronco67 05-04-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075626)
Nice that you seem to hate older people.

But unfortunately for your ignorant statement...Fox is not only number one in that demographic but ALSO the 25 to 54 year old demographic.

Average number of viewers in primetime:

FNC: 1.774 million viewers / 297,000 adults 25-54

MSNBC: 645,000 viewers / 203,000 adults 25-54

So just like the bureaucrats and politicians here in the U.S., you have mastered the art of not telling the WHOLE story.

FNC beats MSNBC in EVERY demographic. It's simply more entertaining...if you're in the mood for that kind of "entertainment".

It's always funny to watch your "neutral" viewpoint in action.

DTK 05-04-2014 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20075643)
They do know what they're doing, and they're doing it better than anyone else. Keeping old people and rednecks misinformed.

:thumbsup Mainstream media is a lie factory in general, but Fox is on it's own level. They've actually gone to court to defend their right to lie to their viewers, and won. No joke.

Once the Fairness Doctrine was gutted, it was game on for amoral propagandists to do their thing.

bronco67 05-04-2014 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 20075649)
:thumbsup Mainstream media is a lie factory in general, but Fox is on it's own level. They've actually gone to court to defend their right to lie to their viewers, and won. No joke.

Once the Fairness Doctrine was gutted, it was game on for amoral propagandists to do their thing.

This is why I don't understand how Fox and MSNBC can really be compared, other than the fact that they're polar opposites in politics. MSNBC has some really smart people, and I'm not saying that because I agree with them. Compared to the brain trust that converses on Fox, they just sound like more intelligent people. I'm surprised those idiots on Fox and Friends can put their own pants on in the morning. Alex Wagner's left eyeball is smarter than all three of them combined.

Robbie 05-04-2014 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20075648)
It's always funny to watch your "neutral" viewpoint in action.

Just showing the facts over what he posted which was totally NOT telling the whole story. :)

Robbie 05-04-2014 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 20075646)
The fact is, the median age of a Fox viewer is 68, with a 1.1% black viewership. The stereotype of Fox as a channel for old white conservatives is backed up by the data.

The FACTS are still the FACTS. More young people still watch Fox News than MSNBC. And a lot of older and wiser people watch it too.

It simply beats MSNBC in EVERY demographic.

If you don't think that the head of MSNBC would LOVE to have those older (and richer) viewers so that they could charge more money for advertisements, then you clearly haven't thought it through.

Look...I think that ALL of these channels are shitty for actual "news". But FNC is simply BETTER at what they do than MSNBC.

It's funny to read some of this...you guys are not only making excuses for the political parties you love, but now you're making every excuse under the sun for MSNBC sucking.

Look, I get it...if you are a person who just loves Democrats....then MSNBC is the holy grail.
Problem is...nobody is watching it. And from reading all the quotes and vid clips that Democrat Party loyalists keep posting here...it seems that they too are watching Fox News a lot, or at least bringing it up in every conversation ad nauseum.

The conversations seem to go like this:

Me: "Pres. Obama isn't doing what he promised and in many ways has seemed worse to me than Bush."
Obamapologist: "He isn't doing anything that Bush didn't do too! And quit listening to Fox News!:"

AND:

Me: "Whether you like FNC or not, they are constantly kicking everyone else's ass in the ratings in EVERY age group"
MSNBC Lovers: "Fox News viewers are all old and stupid rednecks! We 'liberal' elite are far too clever and smart! Fox News lies! And oh yeah...one more thing...GEORGE BUSH and THE KOCH BROTHERS!!!"

It's really lame guys. Especially the trying to twist reality to fit some kind of elitist smarmy vision of things.

Let's keep it in reality and not fantasy.

DTK 05-04-2014 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075673)
Let's keep it in reality and not fantasy.

Says the guy who wrote "I'm pointing out the facts crockett. He LIED. He covered up." when multiple investigations didn't find shit AND the GOP controlled Armed Services Committee said the opposite.

sperbonzo 05-05-2014 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
Both the Dems and Repubs are just really, really bad. Just reading people on here defending the Pres. for openly and knowingly lying his ass off is just crazy.

I don't know what to tell you guys. Your all just rooting for your "team" in my eyes.

If you are a Democrat, apparently Pres. Obama can just do whatever he wants to: spying, killing, cracking down with the drug war, lying, manipulating...it's just the same old song and dance...but Democrats don't care.

He's a DEMOCRAT! YAY! And the media keeps telling us that they are the "good guys"

The Democrats "care" about us and want to save the planet. :)

And you know what...I do believe that every one of you who votes Democrat party down the ticket really ARE the good guys who care and want to save the planet.

But the politicians running around representing the Democrats?

No fucking way. They are the exact same as the Republicans.

And to those of you who keep saying: "Well, yeah...they are both bad. But the Democrats are better."

No they're not.

And you shouldn't have to accept that kind of choice between "Lesser of 2 evils".

Come on guys! Stop voting for Dems and Repubs.

Let's show some fucking balls and vote for other choices. There are tons of other candidates running who are not affiliated with the "2 party system".

At least take a look at what those people have to say.

If you are a die-hard liberal who believes that rich people suck and need to give most of their money to the govt. in taxes...the Democrats are NOT for you.

If you are (like me) a socially liberal, anti-war, anti-drug war, freedom from oppressive govt. person (you know, like the Hippies and TRUE liberals from the 1960's) ...the Democrats are NOT for you.

If you are a small govt., less taxes kind of person...the Republicans are NOT for you.

If you are a conservative Christian nutjob...I got bad news, the Republicans are STILL not for you.

Neither of these parties EVER delivers what they promise.

They come in, spend their entire lives as career bureaucrats. They get rich. We get fucked.

STANDING OVATION!!!


BEST POST OF THE THREAD!!





(unfortunately, no one will pay attention to this post, because they are still so taken in by rooting for their "side". The two parties have got them so wrapped up in making sure to back their "teams" that they can't see the truth staring them in the face......

It's a damn shame. :disgust:Oh crap:()


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Robbie 05-05-2014 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DTK (Post 20075708)
Says the guy who wrote "I'm pointing out the facts crockett. He LIED. He covered up." when multiple investigations didn't find shit .

Dude...what "investigation" do you need?

I WATCHED the Pres. go on the David Letterman show and claim it was caused by a "video" from a "shady guy".

Youtube it for yourself. He is the President. His own CIA team in Libya had told them it was NOT a protest over a video.

He knew that. He LIED right on television and had all of his staff people on every Sunday morning news show telling the same lie.

That was just flat out political because he didn't want his foreign policy to look bad (at the time he was running neck and neck with Romney).

Goddamn...what does the govt. have to do to some of you people to get you a bit upset?

It was a coverup, plain and simple. And a dumb one at that. He should have just told the truth. His campaign manager made a very bad call on that one.

And now...the Republicans are going to use it for their political advantage against Hillary Clinton.

That is a FACT.

I'm not cheerleading it. I'm just saying what is going to happen. You guys are in some kind of fantasy land if you don't think that's what the Republicans will do.

2MuchMark 05-05-2014 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20074855)

Romney was a good choice really, for the most part.

How could he have been a good choice? You never knew where you stood with him because he always contradicted himself.



Flip Floppin' Romney.

Robbie 05-05-2014 08:02 AM

It's politics Mark.

The guy went "far right" in order to win the Republican nomination.
Then he's screwed in the general.

That's the same fate that happened to McCain. Both guys were "moderates" all their careers.

Then they get up and straight-faced lied and pretended to be far-right to win the primary.

And then, of course...it ruins the whole reason that people liked them in the beginning.

The Democrats have finally figured that out. And it's been very successful for them the last 2 Pres. campaigns.

I don't see how the Republicans are going to be able to field any candidate that won't have the same thing happen to them too. So if Pres. Obama can just get through to the end of his term without completely fucking up...it should be easy for Hillary to beat the Republican no matter who they find.

As long as the primary forces them to go full-retard on themselves, they are doomed.

As far as Romney goes...he would have definitely been a better Pres. from an economic standpoint in my opinion. His ideas to stimulate the economy were pretty damn good.
But he obviously didn't have the charm of Pres. Obama. And the Pres. is probably one of the best campaigners in modern times.

MK Ultra 05-05-2014 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
Both the Dems and Repubs are just really, really bad. Just reading people on here defending the Pres. for openly and knowingly lying his ass off is just crazy.

I don't know what to tell you guys. Your all just rooting for your "team" in my eyes.

If you are a Democrat, apparently Pres. Obama can just do whatever he wants to: spying, killing, cracking down with the drug war, lying, manipulating...it's just the same old song and dance...but Democrats don't care.

He's a DEMOCRAT! YAY! And the media keeps telling us that they are the "good guys"

The Democrats "care" about us and want to save the planet. :)

And you know what...I do believe that every one of you who votes Democrat party down the ticket really ARE the good guys who care and want to save the planet.

But the politicians running around representing the Democrats?

No fucking way. They are the exact same as the Republicans.

And to those of you who keep saying: "Well, yeah...they are both bad. But the Democrats are better."

No they're not.

And you shouldn't have to accept that kind of choice between "Lesser of 2 evils".

Come on guys! Stop voting for Dems and Repubs.

Let's show some fucking balls and vote for other choices. There are tons of other candidates running who are not affiliated with the "2 party system".

At least take a look at what those people have to say.

If you are a die-hard liberal who believes that rich people suck and need to give most of their money to the govt. in taxes...the Democrats are NOT for you.

If you are (like me) a socially liberal, anti-war, anti-drug war, freedom from oppressive govt. person (you know, like the Hippies and TRUE liberals from the 1960's) ...the Democrats are NOT for you.

If you are a small govt., less taxes kind of person...the Republicans are NOT for you.

If you are a conservative Christian nutjob...I got bad news, the Republicans are STILL not for you.

Neither of these parties EVER delivers what they promise.

They come in, spend their entire lives as career bureaucrats. They get rich. We get fucked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20076027)
STANDING OVATION!!!


BEST POST OF THE THREAD!!





(unfortunately, no one will pay attention to this post, because they are still so taken in by rooting for their "side". The two parties have got them so wrapped up in making sure to back their "teams" that they can't see the truth staring them in the face......

It's a damn shame. :disgust:Oh crap:()


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Vendzilla 05-05-2014 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20075643)
They do know what they're doing, and they're doing it better than anyone else. Keeping old people and rednecks misinformed.

Kind of a prejudice thing to say, are rednecks and old people beneath you? Are you a better class of people than old people and rednecks. If I didn't know any better, I would think you are prejudice?

crockett 05-05-2014 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075626)
Nice that you seem to hate older people.

But unfortunately for your ignorant statement...Fox is not only number one in that demographic but ALSO the 25 to 54 year old demographic.

Average number of viewers in primetime:

FNC: 1.774 million viewers / 297,000 adults 25-54

MSNBC: 645,000 viewers / 203,000 adults 25-54

So just like the bureaucrats and politicians here in the U.S., you have mastered the art of not telling the WHOLE story.

FNC beats MSNBC in EVERY demographic. It's simply more entertaining...if you're in the mood for that kind of "entertainment".

So how is Fox News stats on accurate reporting? We all get they are awesome entertainment TV, but how about their accuracy? I heard it was pretty bad..

Vendzilla 05-05-2014 09:10 AM

Reading these posts are funny, catch a liberal on a fact and he immediately comes up with a excuse.
I say Fox is number one in ratings, people line up to tell me I'm wrong, but I'm not.

Saying they are number 1 in old people? Did you read that part and skip the rest? Here yah go!!!

Fox News ended Q1 2014 solidly in first place, in both the 25-54 demo and total viewers. Fox continued to beat CNN and MSNBC combined in total viewers across all day parts. In total day, Fox averaged 1.099M total viewers and 225K in the demo, up 3% and 5% respectively from Q1 2013. In prime time (8-11pm), Fox averaged 1.804M total viewers and 293K in the demo, up 4% and 5% respectively from Q1 2013. By comparison, CNN and MSNBC were either flat or down in those same categories compared to last year.

The O’Reilly Factor was once again the highest-rated show on Fox’s schedule last quarter, averaging 2.790M total viewers and 427K in the demo. The Kelly File was #2 in total with 2.228M and #3 in the demo with 342K. The Five was #3 in total with 2.131M and #2 in the demo with 366K. The rest of the top 5 included Special Report with Bret Baier and On The Record with Greta Van Susteren.

On cable TV as a whole, Fox News came in fifth in prime time. By comparison, MSNBC was #27 overall, while CNN tied for #34.

crockett 05-05-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 20076027)
STANDING OVATION!!!


BEST POST OF THE THREAD!!





(unfortunately, no one will pay attention to this post, because they are still so taken in by rooting for their "side". The two parties have got them so wrapped up in making sure to back their "teams" that they can't see the truth staring them in the face......

It's a damn shame. :disgust:Oh crap:()


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I'm sorry but most of us just roll our eyes at these posts, because Robbie always loves to point out how biased everyone else is and how we all play for our own teams while trying to pretend he is middle of the road and completely with out bias.

Meanwhile he does nothing but bash the left while making excuses for anything the right does. It's just silly TBH.

I like Robbie, but he is certainly not middle of the road or unbiased so it's like 12clicks coming here to tell everyone else they are hateful and angry but he's the nicest guy in the world. :error

American Psycho 05-05-2014 09:23 AM

possibly they downplayed it because of an initiative to not give recognition to psycho terrorist fucks that kill so they can get their name in the papers.

I nfor one would rather the gov not give airtime to them and just send the drones in

American Psycho 05-05-2014 09:25 AM

Maybe fox is number one cause all the couch potato dumb fucks in the us watch a lot of tv.

American Psycho 05-05-2014 09:26 AM

Maybe fox is number one cause all the couch potato dumb fucks in the middle us watch a lot of tv while on meth binges

Rochard 05-05-2014 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
If you are a Democrat, apparently Pres. Obama can just do whatever he wants to: spying, killing, cracking down with the drug war, lying, manipulating...it's just the same old song and dance...but Democrats don't care.

This is pure bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
If you are a Democrat, apparently Pres. Obama can just do whatever he wants to: spying,

This is funny. We spy on every one, period, no exception, always have, always did, and always will. This doesn't change from President to President.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
killing....

What killing? Did Obama order the US to invade another country? I must have missed that.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
cracking down with the drug war.....

The same drug way we've been fighting since the 1980s?

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
lying, manipulating...

Lying about what? The death panels on Obamacare?

He lied about the presence of the CIA operating in another country? You are right, that's horrible. We shouldn't lie about the CIA operating in another country. Let's just put out a press briefing detailing the CIA and what they are doing in every country.

Don't be silly. Every administration denies what the CIA is doing.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20075152)
it's just the same old song and dance...

Doesn't matter who is in office, it's the same exact shit. Even if Romeny was in office we would still be in Benghazi, the attack still would have happened, and the instead it would Romney up there denying the CIA presence in another country.... Because we do not discuss active intelligence operations in other countries.

Vendzilla 05-05-2014 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20076221)
This is pure bullshit.



This is funny. We spy on every one, period, no exception, always have, always did, and always will. This doesn't change from President to President.

But did Verizon hand over all communications to the NSA before, NO, that's new.
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What killing? Did Obama order the US to invade another country? I must have missed that.

Drone strikes to countries we are not at war with



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Lying about what? The death panels on Obamacare?
If you like your your insurance, you can keep it

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Doesn't matter who is in office, it's the same exact shit. Even if Romeny was in office we would still be in Benghazi, the attack still would have happened, and the instead it would Romney up there denying the CIA presence in another country.... Because we do not discuss active intelligence operations in other countries.
That's kinda stupid, but I get that from you a lot. Even if Romney was in office?

The attack was on Sept 11 2012, even if Romney had won, he still wouldn't have been president yet, it's all on the Obama Administration

crockett 05-05-2014 10:11 AM

I guess once accuracy is brought up, all the Fox news boasting suddenly has a change of subject. It's kinda hard to back up the accuarcy of a News station whom went to court so they could continue to lie to their viewers.. :error:error

Rochard 05-05-2014 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076234)
But did Verizon hand over all communications to the NSA before, NO, that's new.

Signed into law by... Bush.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076234)
Drone strikes to countries we are not at war with

Program started by... Bush.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076234)
If you like your your insurance, you can keep it

Yes. If you like your insurance you can keep it, assuming your healthcare plan wasn't invalidated by the law.

This is making a mountain out of a molehill. Policies comes and go, and some change.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076234)
That's kinda stupid, but I get that from you a lot. Even if Romney was in office?

The difference between you and I is you see Republican / Democrat where as I see a continuation of government. I never see Republican or Democrat, not caring because they are both about the same in my eyes. The vast amount of arguments you bring up would have come up no matter which party was in office. If McCain was in office when Benghazi was attacked, what would he have done? It's standard policy to deny all / any intelligence operations before, during or after. He either would have done the same thing and deny the presence of the CIA, or he would have said "this is a terrorist attack on a CIA outfit". Either way either president would have been blasted - you either deny it or expose it, and either way you come out with dirt on your face.

McCain is former military - as is you - we should never discuss intelligence matters in public. Ever.

And again, this is more of making a mountain out of a molehill. What happened AFTER the event is not important. We need to know how this was allowed happen, and who in Congress cut funding, and point fingers directly at them.

Vendzilla 05-05-2014 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20076692)
Signed into law by... Bush.

It was signed by judge Roger Vinson of the United States Foreign Intelligence Court

the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, signed into law by then-President Jimmy Carter.

What did Bush have to do with it?

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Program started by... Bush.
Doesn't make it right, besides, Obama has been sending a lot more of them
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Yes. If you like your insurance you can keep it, assuming your healthcare plan wasn't invalidated by the law.

This is making a mountain out of a molehill. Policies comes and go, and some change.
Bullshit

Look up "biggest lie of 2013" , Google it, then go to the first link

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And again, this is more of making a mountain out of a molehill. What happened AFTER the event is not important. We need to know how this was allowed happen, and who in Congress cut funding, and point fingers directly at them.
Same list, just down a few, you will see how he rated on his lie about Benghazi




And for the record, I don't give a rats ass about right / left, gop democrats. I don't like any of them. I just don't like what's going on with the current administration, I don't give a fuck what label you put on it

JA$ON 05-05-2014 04:42 PM

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BmpNkJ9CYAAxKo2.jpg:large

WOW, I read that in EXACTLY her voice. Classic

DTK 05-05-2014 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20076268)
I guess once accuracy is brought up, all the Fox news boasting suddenly has a change of subject. It's kinda hard to back up the accuarcy of a News station whom went to court so they could continue to lie to their viewers.. :error:error

Funny, that.

12clicks 05-06-2014 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20076202)
I'm sorry but most of us just roll our eyes at these posts, because Robbie always loves to point out how biased everyone else is and how we all play for our own teams while trying to pretend he is middle of the road and completely with out bias.

Meanwhile he does nothing but bash the left while making excuses for anything the right does. It's just silly TBH.

I like Robbie, but he is certainly not middle of the road or unbiased so it's like 12clicks coming here to tell everyone else they are hateful and angry but he's the nicest guy in the world. :error

or like you telling everyone you're successful.:thumbsup

Rochard 05-06-2014 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076748)
It was signed by judge Roger Vinson of the United States Foreign Intelligence Court

the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, signed into law by then-President Jimmy Carter.

What did Bush have to do with it?

Very odd how you blame this on Obama, then back track.

I was talking about the Patriot Act. Come on already.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076748)
Doesn't make it right, besides, Obama has been sending a lot more of them

If given the choice of invading a country, spending billions, and risking American lives, we just drones. Welcome to the twenty-first century.

This was started by one administration and continued by another. The only other option here is to send in troops, which should be a last resort.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076748)
Look up "biggest lie of 2013" , Google it, then go to the first link

Because instead of doing their jobs, Republicans went to war over a law that was not only needed but is good.

Here is how this plays out... Republicans continue to bitch like little children, Hillary becomes President, and Hillary goes the next level with healthcare. We are now talking eight to ten years from now, all of the issues will have been fixed, and everyone will be saying "Why were we even debating this?" and the Republicans will continue to look stupid.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076748)
Same list, just down a few, you will see how he rated on his lie about Benghazi

You are right - from now the very moment the CIA is exposed we should be up front and open about it. This way everyone knows our dirty little secrets.

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20076748)
I just don't like what's going on with the current administration...

The last time we had a Republican in the Oval Office he brought our country it's weakest point in sixty years. Millions of people lots their houses while millions more lost their jobs. Now Obama has fixed everything - unemployment is down, economy is up, wealth is up, home values is up.... And all the Republican party can do is make mountains out of molehills.

I was a Republican all my life until I watched the country take a nose dive under Bush. Then I watched the Republican party get beat TWICE by a black man with a rather unimpressive track record.

Robbie 05-06-2014 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20076268)
I guess once accuracy is brought up, all the Fox news boasting suddenly has a change of subject. It's kinda hard to back up the accuarcy of a News station whom went to court so they could continue to lie to their viewers.. :error:error

I've been seeing you write that over and over and over.

So I finally went and looked it up out of curiosity. And once again...you are NOT telling the whole truth (seems to be a "liberal" thing lately?).

A LOCAL news station in Florida who are a Fox television AFFILIATE station (WTVT channel 13).
And the court case was 2 employees suing that affiliate station after they had been fired.
The 2 employees claimed that they had been "wrongfully terminated" because they threatened to whistleblow that the local station was distorting some news stories.

The court found that to not be the case.

Come on crockett...you are just like Obama, either totally ignorant of everything around you...or lying on purpose.

Fox News Channel did NOT go to court. And the whole court case had nothing to do with FNC being able to lie. It was 2 employees who were suing over being fired.

Fake Liberal, hate-filled media groups re-wrote that story and you Democrat sheep have repeated it like robots without even using google to find out the real story.

You should be ashamed of yourselves and you should also start THINKING for yourselves.

It took me about 15 seconds to google that story up and find out what the actual court case was about and the decision that was made. NOT some media person's "opinion" on it that you guys are spouting as "truth"

This is a prime example of what is wrong with America.

Instead of standing up and demanding that your govt. SERVE the people...you are too busy telling half-truths and lies and making up excuses that only attack other people.

Other civilian people are not the problem here guys...the size and scope and overreach of the govt. is the problem. And they are laughing at your inability to even SEE it...much less stop it.

crockett 05-06-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20077590)
I've been seeing you write that over and over and over.

So I finally went and looked it up out of curiosity. And once again...you are NOT telling the whole truth (seems to be a "liberal" thing lately?).

A LOCAL news station in Florida who are a Fox television AFFILIATE station (WTVT channel 13).
And the court case was 2 employees suing that affiliate station after they had been fired.
The 2 employees claimed that they had been "wrongfully terminated" because they threatened to whistleblow that the local station was distorting some news stories.

The court found that to not be the case.

Come on crockett...you are just like Obama, either totally ignorant of everything around you...or lying on purpose.

Fox News Channel did NOT go to court. And the whole court case had nothing to do with FNC being able to lie. It was 2 employees who were suing over being fired.

Fake Liberal, hate-filled media groups re-wrote that story and you Democrat sheep have repeated it like robots without even using google to find out the real story.

You should be ashamed of yourselves and you should also start THINKING for yourselves.

It took me about 15 seconds to google that story up and find out what the actual court case was about and the decision that was made. NOT some media person's "opinion" on it that you guys are spouting as "truth"

This is a prime example of what is wrong with America.

Instead of standing up and demanding that your govt. SERVE the people...you are too busy telling half-truths and lies and making up excuses that only attack other people.

Other civilian people are not the problem here guys...the size and scope and overreach of the govt. is the problem. And they are laughing at your inability to even SEE it...much less stop it.

Actually Robbie you didn't read much about the case if that's what you think. Fox was let off the hook biased on the fact that they argued she was not a whistle blower and therefore was not protected by the FCC or federal laws.

The fact that Fox pressured her not to air the story and that they tried to force her to say what they wanted here to say is not what wasn't proven wrong in the court of law. The case was decided on if she was or wasn't a whistle blower then thrown out of court.

Kinda like OJ didn't murder anyone because the blood soaked glove didn't fit.

Also I like how once again you tell everyone else how biased they are while of course excluding yourself. Everyone else is always the problem but you are never to blame. Thank's Obama..

Robbie 05-06-2014 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20077700)
Fox was let off the hook .

Goddamn you are acting like you don't understand English: FOX WASN'T PART OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT CASE.

It was a local television station WTVT channel 13 in Florida.

Please stop telling half-truths...they are really just lies. And very indicative of the kind of thought processes that some of you are using to try to justify your arguments.

crockett 05-06-2014 12:06 PM

Back on the subject of "what about Benghazi...

It seems John Boner had a change of heart..

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Boehner called the the congressional hearing a "partisan show trial [that] is a waste of time and taxpayer dollars."

To quote Bill Maher.. "I kid, I kid"...

That was John Boner's quote during the Iraq investigations and he further went on to say..

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Harf noted that Boehner said, "By subpoenaing the Secretary of State, Democrats have revealed how beholden they are to leftwing activist groups while stealing the Secretary's time away from critical diplomatic missions."

Seems the Boner had a change of heart as it's now ok to Subpoena the Sec of State John Kerry and waste tax dollars while having yet another investigation and pulling the Sec of State away from his diplomatic duties..

FLIP FLOP....

Robbie 05-06-2014 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20077700)
. Everyone else is always the problem but you are never to blame. Thank's Obama..

And again...your bullshit knows no bounds.

How am I...Robbie, the "problem" or have any "blame"???

Did I step up drone attacks around the world killing people? No, that would be the Obama Administration.

Did I ramp up the NSA to new heights of spying on people around the world? No, that would be the Obama Administration.

Did I go on national television and look right into the camera and lie my ass off? No, that would be the President.

I am not your "enemy" or the cause of any or our nation's problems. The GOVT. is the one that creates problems and then finds new expensive and expansive ways to "solve" them.

And YOU are the one who is on here telling half-truths.

The irony of it all...is the fact that you think that FNC is the only news channel with an agenda and distorted reporting AND then....YOU yourself LIED about a court case that had nothing to do with FNC in an attempt to show how much THEY lied.

That you can't see what you are doing is really the worst part of it all.

crockett 05-06-2014 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20077739)
Goddamn you are acting like you don't understand English: FOX WASN'T PART OF ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT CASE.

It was a local television station WTVT channel 13 in Florida.

Please stop telling half-truths...they are really just lies. And very indicative of the kind of thought processes that some of you are using to try to justify your arguments.

Yes because we all know local affiliates have no connections at all to their network stations. I mean obviously the fact that Monsanto wrote a letter to the Roger Ailes the President of FOX News Network in which he stated "enormous damage that can be done" as a result of the report."

Leading to pressure coming from the heads of FOX NEWS network totally has nothing at all in the slightest with Fox News Network..

Robbie You are turning into a Right Wing apologist.. Is there anything the Right does that you wont turn a blind eye to?


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